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    Default Re: The 00's = the death of defense in the NBA? No contact league?

    [QUOTE=DonDadda59]Alborz is going to love this. Turns out, as I said before, Kobe's piss poor performance in the '04 Finals facilitated the death knell for physical play on the perimeter:

    About his legendary performance (From ESPN article 'Ranking the 10 worst Finals Performances, John Hollinger June 12, 2008)

    Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers, 2004
    Lakers vs. Pistons -- Bryant's PER 14.2

    "With his feud against Shaq escalating and the series getting away from the Lakers, Bryant began taking whatever shot struck him. Mostly, they struck the rim -- he shot 38.1 percent and had nearly as many turnovers (18) as assists (22) as Detroit romped in five games."


    During the series, Mav's owner Mark Cuban made some interesting observations about the defensive play of the Pistons (handchecking as Jordan era players new it was dead, but minimal/temporary contact was still sometimes allowed) and the 'advantage' they had over offensive perimeter players and decided a change was necesary to tip the scales in the other direction...

    From his Blog Maverick weblog, Mark Cuban's article 'If It

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    Default Re: The 00's = the death of defense in the NBA? No contact league?

    anyone who thinks the defense of today is just as good or better than what Jordan had to deal with clearly has zero idea what they are talking about and are too damn young to have seen and understood the game then.

    anyone who thinks MJ wouldnt have a field day with the way the rules are called now is flat out ignorant of the game and the changes it has gone through.

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    Default Re: The 00's = the death of defense in the NBA? No contact league?

    Quote Originally Posted by kentatm
    anyone who thinks the defense of today is just as good or better than what Jordan had to deal with clearly has zero idea what they are talking about and are too damn young to have seen and understood the game then.

    anyone who thinks MJ wouldnt have a field day with the way the rules are called now is flat out ignorant of the game and the changes it has gone through.
    That's why certain people are tasked wth educating the misinformed/ignorant youth.

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    Default Re: The 00's = the death of defense in the NBA? No contact league?

    Man how many threads is this guy gonna make on the same subject???

    WE GET IT!!!! JORDAN FACED TOUGHER DEFENSE THAN KOBE!!! HOW MANY FRIGGIN THREADS ARE YOU GONNA MAKE ABOUT IT?

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    Default Re: The 00's = the death of defense in the NBA? No contact league?

    I've watched some mid 90's bulls games lately and everybody who thinks that defense wasn't more physical back then is wrong. period.

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    Default Re: The 00's = the death of defense in the NBA? No contact league?

    [QUOTE=andgar923]The season before he got there.........

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    Default Re: The 00's = the death of defense in the NBA? No contact league?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laker4Lyfe
    Man how many threads is this guy gonna make on the same subject???

    WE GET IT!!!! JORDAN FACED TOUGHER DEFENSE THAN KOBE!!! HOW MANY FRIGGIN THREADS ARE YOU GONNA MAKE ABOUT IT?
    7 sounds like a good number. As many as it takes to shut up the blind homers the world over.

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    Default Re: The 00's = the death of defense in the NBA? No contact league?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gingereffic
    The year before MJ played for the Wiz the Wiz only won 18 games.. OKKKKK
    !9

    19-63, Finished 7th in NBA Atlantic Division (Game Results)
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    Scored 93.2 points per game, Allowed 99.9 points per game (Pythagorean W-L: 23-59)
    Coached by Leonard Hamilton (19-63)
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/WAS/2001.html

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    Default Re: The 00's = the death of defense in the NBA? No contact league?

    [COLOR="Navy"]NEW!!![/COLOR] Michael Jordan vs 1987-89 Atlanta Hawks defense:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLo29V0DS9k

    Michael Jordan vs Real Defenses:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5auPSMaD3vE

    Michael Jordan vs 96 Seattle Supersonics defense:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4W5siGgcc

    Michael Jordan vs 87-88 Jazz defense:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp53zWynjh4

    Michael Jordan vs 95-97 Washington Bullets defense:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyXhG7yBQ98

    Michael Jordan vs 1990-93 San Antonio Spurs defense:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-BzacrbJ8

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    Default Re: The 00's = the death of defense in the NBA? No contact league?

    Impressive list of names. But has MJ ever faced the "DPOY" LBJ, in a game. According to PleeeezeBelieve, LBJ is the clear DPOY and kobe hit a raiiiiinbow over his a$$. Since LBJ>>>>>all the names you just listed according to PB, and Kobe hit a raiiinbow over his a$$, therefore Kobe>>>MJ.

    btw God Shammgod>>>>all

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