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    And yet when people say Kobe is a volume scorer, or a streaky shooter, some fans blast those comments by calling it hate.

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    Some more interesting facts...

    A player scored 40+ points since 1986 for a total of 1373 times.

    Out of these 1373, only in 13 of them the player shot under 40%.

    Here's that list, sorted by FG%, ascending order

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    Rank Player Date Tm Opp FG% PTS
    1 Kobe Bryant 2005-12-28 LAL MEM .351 45
    2 Allen Iverson 2002-03-08 PHI IND .361 41
    3 Kobe Bryant 2002-11-07 LAL BOS .362 41
    4 Kobe Bryant 2006-03-08 LAL NOK .364 40
    5 Michael Jordan 1986-11-29 CHI GSW .367 40
    6 Kobe Bryant 2006-03-03 LAL GSW .379 42
    7 Kobe Bryant 2003-02-23 LAL SEA .382 41
    8 Paul Pierce 2001-12-01 BOS NJN .382 48
    9 Allen Iverson 2002-02-20 PHI GSW .389 46
    10 Kobe Bryant 2005-11-27 LAL NJN .389 46
    11 Allen Iverson 2003-04-15 PHI CHI .393 42
    12 Kobe Bryant 2006-04-16 LAL PHO .393 43
    13 Michael Jordan 1987-01-15 CHI HOU .395 43[/CODE]

    It's equally interesting that Kobe has 7 of these 13 entries in this list. Moreover, he has the 5 of the worst 7 shooting games over 40+ points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaroi
    You forget to mention that kobe also had 17 other 50+ point games where he shot over 50%. 2 of those he shot over 70%, and 3 he shot over 60%.
    Kobe's 50+ point games
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    95 career 40+ games(only MJ/Wilt have more)
    23 50+ games(only MJ and Wilt have more)
    Incredible when you consider that he's only been the man for 4 seasons.
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    LOL @ "the man" comment. There's a difference between having an offense run through a player, and said player being the best guy on the team, and the other guy who takes as much, or more shots. Kobe may not have been "the man", but he was taking a lot of attempts. He's a volume scorer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Showtime
    LOL @ "the man" comment. There's a difference between having an offense run through a player, and said player being the best guy on the team, and the other guy who takes as much, or more shots. Kobe may not have been "the man", but he was taking a lot of attempts. He's a volume scorer.
    Kobe scores more without Shaq. That is a fact.
    Volume scorer? Sure, and a very efficient one at that.In fact, over the past couple of years he's been the most efficient volume scorer in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacks3
    Kobe scores more without Shaq. That is a fact.
    Volume scorer? Sure, and a very efficient one at that.In fact, over the past couple of years he's been the most efficient volume scorer in the league.
    Your comment about him only being the "man" for 4 years, thus making his scoring achievements more impressive is moot since he was taking as much, and sometimes more shots than Shaq. He didn't do all that in 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShowTime LA
    What was the w/l record in those games?

    LOL @ homers trying to justify it.

    Also, Kobe has the dubious distinction of being the only player to ever take 45+ shots and fail to score 50 points, when he scored just 41 points on 47 shots vs. Boston in 2003.

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    a bunch of them are from the time pre-suns series where kobe was being a selfish ******* and taking all the shots. he basically didnt trust his team at all and needed to work that out, so jackson let him shoot and shoot and shoot until kobe realized it wasnt' working. It felt like he scored 40 points every game that year.

    so this is not surprising.

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    Well, this is quite interesting indeed. Despite being a great scorer Kobe is never known for his efficiency so I'm not totally shocked. But still it puts things into perspective. There's a reason why he's yet to shoot 47% for a season.

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    i hate defending kobe but this thread is so unnecessary. all but two of those 40 point games came in the 2005-06 season when kobe had no other help besides odom (smush was their 3rd leading scorer and odom isn't always reliable). we all know iverson has never really had significant help, jordan's two games on the list came when charles oakley was the #2 scorer (and oakley was never considered a scorer). antonie and pierce were the only 2 scorers on the celts team when he put up that game.

    fact is, these games for mj, kobe, ai, and pierce came when their teammates were not scoring threats at all. when you are head and shoulders above your teammates in scoring abilities (which these guys all are... but in the years these games happened it was particularly drastic), you are going to have some games where you have to shoot a lot when your teammates can't cut it. you can't expect to shoot >50% or even greater then >40% every game. it just so happens, when those guys werent shooting well in those particular games, they still had to shoot as their teammates weren't offensively capable to take more of a load.

    i hate kobe, but there seriously isn't a point of this thread. its just spreading hate. people complain about kobe-jocking threads so much, but anti-kobe threads are just as stupid. stupidity breeding more stupidity. if there is another point of this thread other then just to bash a player, then let me know. but i don't see it. and keep in mind i do not like kobe, i just think this thread is skewing some bad shooting games hardcore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Showtime
    Your comment about him only being the "man" for 4 years, thus making his scoring achievements more impressive is moot since he was taking as much, and sometimes more shots than Shaq. He didn't do all that in 4 years.
    That's not the point. The point is without Shaq he scores more and has more opportunities to get 40+ and 50+ games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacks3
    owned.
    co-sign. that link tells you all you need to know. This thread (and its original intentions) are officially a joke.

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    at people acting like Kobe is Iverson or something in regards to efficiency. He's actually very efficient as a volume scorer. Right up there with Wade and LBJ.

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    [QUOTE=Charles_Oakley]Since 1986, we had 50+ points in a regular season game for a total of 151 times.

    Only in 13 of these 151 games, the scorer shot below 50% in that particular game. Here are those 13 games where the player scored 50+ points but shot below 50%

    In ascending order sorted by FG%

    [CODE]Rank Player Date Tm Opp FG% PTS
    1 Kobe Bryant 2006-01-07 LAL LAC .415 50
    2 Kobe Bryant 2007-03-30 LAL HOU .432 53
    3 Kobe Bryant 2006-12-15 LAL HOU .447 53
    4 Dale Ellis 1989-11-09 SEA MIL .462 53
    5 Dirk Nowitzki 2004-12-02 DAL HOU .469 53
    6 Tracy McGrady 2003-02-21 ORL CHI .469 52
    7 Allen Iverson 2005-02-12 PHI ORL .472 60
    8 Paul Pierce 2006-02-15 BOS CLE .472 50
    9 Gilbert Arenas 2007-01-15 WAS UTA .483 51
    10 Michael Jordan 1986-11-01 CHI NYK .484 50
    11 Kobe Bryant 2006-01-19 LAL SAC .486 51
    12 Kobe Bryant 2007-03-18 LAL MIN .486 50
    13 Kobe Bryant 2006-12-29 LAL CHA .489 58[/CODE]


    It's interesting to see that Kobe dominates this list with 6 entries.

    He also has the worst three 50+ points games since 1986. On top of that he's the only player who "managed" to shoot below 45% in a 50+ point game, which he did 3 times.

    7 other players have one 50+point game while shooting below 50%


    Edit:

    Some more interesting facts...

    A player scored 40+ points since 1986 for a total of 1373 times.

    Out of these 1373, only in 13 of them the player shot under 40%.

    Here's that list, sorted by FG%, ascending order

    [CODE]

    Rank Player Date Tm Opp FG% PTS
    1 Kobe Bryant 2005-12-28 LAL MEM .351 45
    2 Allen Iverson 2002-03-08 PHI IND .361 41
    3 Kobe Bryant 2002-11-07 LAL BOS .362 41
    4 Kobe Bryant 2006-03-08 LAL NOK .364 40
    5 Michael Jordan 1986-11-29 CHI GSW .367 40
    6 Kobe Bryant 2006-03-03 LAL GSW .379 42
    7 Kobe Bryant 2003-02-23 LAL SEA .382 41
    8 Paul Pierce 2001-12-01 BOS NJN .382 48
    9 Allen Iverson 2002-02-20 PHI GSW .389 46
    10 Kobe Bryant 2005-11-27 LAL NJN .389 46
    11 Allen Iverson 2003-04-15 PHI CHI .393 42
    12 Kobe Bryant 2006-04-16 LAL PHO .393 43
    13 Michael Jordan 1987-01-15 CHI HOU .395 43[/CODE]


    Pretty good names on that list..Mj,Ai ,Kobe and PP...this thread is Krazy..WHAT THE HELL DID KOBE do to all the LOVE bashing this guy? seriously..ive always wondered why all the Hate for Kobe on this site

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