Larry Bird discussion

[Scott Pippen]

absolutely

[Sir Charles]

For all You Idiots Underrating Bird go Check This Whole Game Out Part 1-6

Game 2, 1986 NBA Finals

Part 1

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=WKA5wjiI37Q

[steve]

i agree with that, but.....he is one of the 6 best ever to play the game....

He's being facetious.

[Nash-tastic]

Yes he would, the only he cant possibly do is posterize, but he could do pretty much everything else, his clutch play is just superb, and IMO he's the 2nd best player all-time.

[allball]

Quite possibly. Bird could be the best in any area if he so desired.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Bird today

NBA comparison: Mike Dunleavy Jr

[Da_Realist]

Unbelievable. Look at the fake and pass at 3:46. Bird wasn't a tremendous athlete, but his hand-eye coordination was elite and his general quickness (on foot fakes, ball fakes, hand-speed, first step etc.) was very good.

I LOVE that step-back three at 2:55. That's a dagger to the heart right there.

[allball]

back then they sere slower than now-n-day's......Kobe would own him, imo.....this is a very tought era, he played in an era which was easier.....altho, he still had to go threw lakers/76ers/pistons......

this man played against Michael Jordan, Isiah, Dr. J, Marques Johnson, James Worthy and Dominique. they look slow to you? Bird would wear Kobe's a$$ much worse than Pierce did. GTFOH.

[Sir Charles]

I actually knew when I posted that that you'd chime in with such a comment. I expected it yesterday, though -- you're getting old, eliteballer. And no, I meant people who haven't even seen any games of his, not necessarily people who didn't see it live.



No, he's not. Not at all. He's definitely underrated, but he can't see Bird.





Unbelievable. Look at the fake and pass at 3:46. Bird wasn't a tremendous athlete, but his hand-eye coordination was elite and his general quickness (on foot fakes, ball fakes, hand-speed, first step etc.) was very good.

0.38 - 0.41 = Bird`s Major Schooling on an Agil-Quick Hakeem..Hilarious

Bird between ages 23 and 30 (79-86) was not as slow as people think anyhow Bird is the Games Greatest SF because he has the whole package:

Can Rebound like a PF (I`ve seen him rebound againt guys like Worthy, Mahorn, Buck Williams, Kevin Willis etc)

Can Pass and See Like a PG: Just look at the clips...

Can Shoot like the Best SGs Ever and in the Clucht the Best Ever.

Gets his FTs

One of the Greatest Team -Defenders Ever

The Greatest Court Awareness Ever

The Greatest Eye Coordination Ever

Shoot and Pass with Both Hands

Bird in todays league would school even more than back. The rules favor his style of game even more: Slow Paced (Bird`s Home), No Handchecking (Bird`Posts Up Freely Gets Foulled More, Shoots 3s when he is hot freeley), Passing is Easier in a Zone Defense it just takes 1 guard to go past once his opponent and the rest are not tightly guarded etc

[inclinerator]

Read and learn. And Yes he would weight 240 lbs. Bird was not stocky built but he was thick boned, way stronger than most people think (I`ve seen him outrebound guys like Buck Williams, James Worthy, Kevin Willis etc) with the weight lifting he would have a stronger upper body with his boxing out skills and the actual No Physical Play in the NBA it would be easier for him to Rebound. With todays No Man to Man Defense he would get his Post Up Shots Easier and finally With the Actual Biggest Lie Ever = The Zone Defense...it would be very easy for him to Pass, Create and Make others Better since most of his Teamates would be Loose for him to find them and finally No Handchecking Bird in a 3-Point Attempt? = Laughable...

[COLOR="Green"]Bird was All but his Looks, An Assasing Hidden inside the Nerdy Country Boy Look [/COLOR]

He Looked So Slow Yet he Avg 29.9 PPG and a Career 23-24 when the Handchecking Was The Common
He Didnt Look Like the Strongest Yet he Avg 10 Rebounds Per Game in Time Where Physical Play Was Allowed
He Didn`t Look so Agil, Yet he Averaged 1.7 SPG (Court Awareness, Playing Chess While Everybody is Playing Checkers)
He Didn`t Look like an NBA Player, Well Go Ask Dr.J about that

ur stupid u mean with supplements they had weights 30 years ago too idiot

[KenneBell]

It's possible. The game has evolved a lot since then though. It's pretty much useless to put players in different eras.

[Sir Charles]

this man played against Michael Jordan, Isiah, Dr. J, Marques Johnson, James Worthy and Dominique. they look slow to you? Bird would wear Kobe's a$$ much worse than Pierce did. GTFOH.

[COLOR="Blue"]The Slow and Unathletic Fs that Bird played against:

Worthy, Dr J, Adrian Dantley, Bernard King, Alex English, Dominique Wilkins, Tom Chambers Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Xavier McDaniel, Terry Cummings...

Yup, you guyst must be right: All The Way Pathetic SFs and SF/Pfs that Bird played against and was guarded by....

Bird was too Slow, To Unathletic and Too Weak to Play Against those Pathetic Players [/COLOR]

[Sir Charles]

ur stupid u mean with supplements they had weights 30 years ago too idiot

yup sorry there...

[Loki]

It's possible. The game has evolved a lot since then though. It's pretty much useless to put players in different eras.

There is no "evolved" version of the game where the skills and ability that anyone can see in ANY Larry Bird video would NOT make him the best player in the league, or one of the handful of best at the very worst. Period.

Larry was perhaps the purest baller ever. True grit, skills, hustle, and heart.

[Sir Charles]

There is no "evolved" version of the game where the skills and ability that anyone can see in ANY Larry Bird video would NOT make him the best player in the league, or one of the handful of best at the very worst. Period.

Larry was perhaps the purest baller ever. True grit, skills, hustle, and heart.

Actually the Game Has Devolved from the 80s: Skill Wise, Fundamentally Wise, Passing Game Wise, IQ Quise..easier for Perimter Players to Score, No Contact in the Paint, A Game of Pusssy`ss who whine to the refts when someone touches them with a feather and finally the Winning Will is Gone.

No player today has Bird`s level Even if one mixed Lebron and Pierce into one player they would make a Better Bird version