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    Default Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    Ive done this...5-6 times. Most recently in 2011. Always nice to see what ISH comes up with. Some of you have built 4-5 teams each time. Some dont give a damn...both are fine by me.


    Changes....


    You must make a 12 man roster with a head coach. So you have 13 selections to make. You could take all players tll group 6 and end up with a garbage coach who ruins everything. Or you could start with group 2 and get an all time great coach more likely to bring it together.Up to you....but hopefully this time we get a lot of diversity.You cant get say...Jordan with Phil though because starting with the top level drops you straight...to level 4.

    Im making it harder to use the elites each tme just to be a dick.

    Id like to stress.....not everyone is ranked by who I think is best...but mostly by who I think ISH would want. For example....I do not thik Reggie is as good as a #2. But some do...so I want to make him hard for them to get.Adrian Dantley didnt do much for me...some of you numbers addicts cant get over 30ppg on 55% shooting. Want him...use a #2 to get him.

    Start with a group one you get:

    1 from group 1
    3 from group 4
    4 from group 5
    3 from group 6
    2 from group 7


    Start with group two you get

    2 from group 2
    1 from group 3
    3 from group 4
    3 from group 5
    2 fom goup 6
    2 from group 7

    So say you get MJ...jump to 4...you could add Hubie Brown as coach, Iggy to be his Pippen, and Larry Nance. Or get 3 players and move to #5 to find a coach. But before its done...you must use a pick on a coach.


    Who has the balls to still take a group one player?


    And yes...I know someone is probably listed in two groups after many edits.....I do not give a damn.

    Winner(as judged by me) gets an amazon gift card of a to be determined value by email. Might be 10....might be 20. Who knows.





    Group 1.


    No coach is worth a player on this level so they are not an option at #1


    Jordan 87-93
    Shaq 94-02
    David Robinson(90-96)
    Lebron(07-13)
    Dirk(06-now)
    Oscar robertson(peak)
    Karl Malone(whatever you consider his prime)
    Bill Walton(Healthy...76-78 form)
    Moses Malone(79-83)
    Kobe(03-10)
    Elgin Baylor pre injury
    Doctor J ABA-1981
    Kg(prime)
    Wilt 76ers
    Charles barkley pirme
    Russell 60-66
    Bird 83-88
    Magic 82-90
    Kareem 70-80
    Hakeem 88-95
    Duncan prime
    Jerry West prime
    Wade 06-2012 healthy

    Hard to rank a few of them as tier one...but I know some of you would rank them there.





    2.

    Coaches:

    Red Auerbach
    Greg Popovich
    Phil Jackson
    Pat Riley


    Players


    Ewing(89-94)
    Pippen
    Durant(now)
    Mcgrady(orlando)
    Kidd
    Isiah Thomas(prime)
    Stockton
    Gervin
    Rick barry
    Kemp
    Bernard King(prime...healthy)
    Dave cowens
    Carmelo
    Bob Pettit
    Artis gilmore
    Alex english
    Derrick Rose 11 and 12 healthy
    Vince Carter(00-02)
    Iverson(2000-2007)
    Pierce(prime)
    Nash(05-08 mvp..not really argued as the best)
    Nate thurmond
    Nique
    Jerry Lucas
    Drexler
    Zo
    Mchale
    Dwight Howard
    Adrian Dantley
    Tim Hardaway
    Grant Hill(95-2000)
    Willis Reed
    Elvin Hayes
    Pau Gasol
    Moncrief prime
    Kevin Johnson
    James worthy prime
    Westbrook now
    Tony Parker now
    Brad Daugherty
    Chris Paul
    Pistol Pete
    Ray Allen
    Reggie Miller 90-2000
    Bob Mcadoo
    Yao Ming
    Walt Frazier
    Chris Mullin
    Penny(94-98)
    Wes unseld
    Mark Price
    Cousy
    Connie Hawkins ABA/suns
    Deron Williams
    Payton
    Webber
    Parish


    3.

    Coaches:

    Doc Rivers
    Jerry Sloan
    Don Nelson
    Larry Brown
    chuck Daly
    Rick Carslile
    Alex hannum
    Lenny wilkins


    Players


    Brand Clippers
    Blake(now)
    Aldridge(now)
    Boozer Jazz
    Arenas(05-09)
    Gus Williams
    Jerry Stackhouse(2000-2003)
    Terry Porter
    Earl Monroe
    Lenny Wilkens prime Hawks
    Derrick Coleman Nets
    Manu 05-2010
    Chris Bosh 05-2010
    Ralph Sampson pre injury Rockets
    Dennis Johnson prime
    Bob Lanier pistons
    Marbury(Nets/suns)
    Rondo 09-pre injury
    Baron Davis(prime)
    Mutombo Nuggets to Philly
    Brandon Roy(healthy)
    Jamal Mashburn prime
    Rasheed(prime)
    Vin Baker Bucks
    Maurice Lucas prme
    James Harden Now
    Kyrie now
    Sam Jones
    Mcdyess(Nuggets)
    Larry Johnson(Hornets)
    Mark Aguirre Mavs
    Dennis Rodman(91-96)
    Finley Mavs pre 04
    Cassell Nets/Bucks/Minnesota
    Joe Johnson Hawks
    Mark jackson Knicks/Clippers/Nuggets/Pacers
    Mitch Richmond Kings
    Dumars pre Hill
    Glenn Robinson
    Derek harper Mavs
    Kevin Love 10-12 healthy
    Tom chambers(suns before 92)
    Sprewell Warriors and Knicks
    Terry Cummings Bucks
    Kevin Willis Hawks
    David thompson Nuggets pre injury
    Ben Wallace(first pistons run)
    Jermaine Oneal(prime)
    Glen Rice(Charlotte)
    Marion(prime)
    Al Jefferson
    Zach Randolph(now)
    Chauncey Billups(03-09)




    4.


    Coaches:

    George Karl
    Rick Adleman
    Bill sharman
    Mike Dantoni
    Stan Vangundy
    Avery Johnson
    Tom Thibodeau
    Billy cunningham
    Mike Fratello
    Hubie Brown
    Rudy T
    Jeff Van Gundy
    Larry Bird
    Scott brooks
    Spo
    Doug Collins



    Players

    Rudy Gay
    Shawn elliot
    Odom
    Jrue Holiday
    Rip Hamilton
    Deng
    Andre Iguodala
    Jalen Rose(Pacers)
    Michael Adams(Bullets/Nuggets)
    Richard Jefferson
    Cedric Ceballos
    Vanexel
    Calvin Murphy
    Mo Cheeks
    Brandon Roy healthy prime
    Antione walker(prime)
    Larry Nance
    Antawn Jamison(warriors to Wizards)
    Jeff Hornacek
    Artest(pacers)
    Dale Ellis Sonics
    Kenny Anderson(nets)
    Josh Smith
    Danny Granger
    Bynum healthy 2010-2012
    Anthony Mason
    Detlef
    AK47(prime)
    Alan Houston
    Antawn Jamison
    Danny Manning Clippers
    Kukoc
    Drazen Petrovic
    Buck williams
    Stephen Jackson prime
    Bibby(kings)
    Devin Harris(Nets)
    Peja(kings)
    John Starks
    Andrew Toney
    Stephon Curry now
    Caron Butler(wizards)
    Rod Strickland
    Jason Richardson(Peak...warriors)
    Rik smits
    Norm Nixon
    Tyson Chandler Mavs
    Steve Francis
    Shareef Abdur Rahim
    Steve Smith
    Juwan Howard
    Bobby Jones(Nuggets/pre Moses 76ers)
    David West
    Marcus Camby(prime
    Eddie Jones
    Gerald wallace(Bobcats)
    Vlade(prime)
    Seikaly
    Bogut
    Brook Lopez
    Paul George
    Marc Gasol
    Big Z
    Joakim Noah
    Jeff Ruland
    al Horford
    Dan Majerle
    Jim Jackson(mavs)



    5.

    Coaches

    Byon Scott
    Lawrence Frank
    Mike Brown
    Mike dunleavy
    Scott skiles
    Nate Mcmillian
    Eddie Jordan
    Isiah Thomas
    Del harris
    Mike Woodson
    Flip Saunders




    PJ Brown(peak)
    Doug Cristie
    Hedo(first run with the Magic)
    Beasley
    Barbosa(suns)
    Nate McMillan(sonics pre GP)
    john Salmons(Bulls/bucks)
    Mo williams(bucks/cavs)
    Laphonso Ellis
    Thurl bailey
    Jason Terry(Mavs)
    Paul Millsap
    Ricky Pierce
    Keith Vanhorn(nets)
    Theo Ratliff
    Kendall Gill(hornets/nets)
    OJ Mayo Now
    Darrell Armstrong
    Raja Bell(Suns)
    Horace grant
    Jameer Nelson
    Michael Redd
    Bob Dandridge
    Nene
    Okur prime on Jazz
    Mark Eaton
    Dennis Scott
    brian Grant(Blazers)
    Emeka
    Nick Anderson
    Tyson Chandler(hornets to now)
    Andre Miller(peak))
    Isiah Rider Minnesota
    Jamal Crawford
    Horry(peak)
    Larry Hughes(wizards/Cavs)
    Richard Jefferson nets
    Mookie blaylock
    Cedric Maxwell
    Raymond Felton
    JR Smith



    6

    coaches

    Vinny Delnegro
    PJ carlesimo
    Sam Mitchell
    Frank Vogel
    Terry Porter
    Bickerstaff




    Players

    Bobby Jackson
    Korver
    Dell Curry
    Delonte West
    Lindsey Hunter
    Kirk Hinrich
    Taj Gibson
    Channing Frye
    Ricky Davis(Cavs and Celtics)
    Gortat
    Rick Fox
    K.Perkins
    Aaron Mckie
    Jason Willaims(Kings/Memphis)
    Cuttino Mobley
    Ruben Patterson
    Michael cooper
    Bruce Bowen
    Nate robinson
    Steve Blake
    Ibaka
    Thabo
    Diaw(Suns)
    Calderon
    Carl Landry
    Chuck Hayes
    Rafer alston
    Derrick Fisher
    Avery Johnson
    Brad Miller Pacers/Kings
    James Posey
    Al harrington
    Mario elie
    Tayshaun Prince
    Muggsy
    Brent Barry
    Desmond Mason
    Anderson Varejao
    Shane Battier
    Drew Gooden(Magic/cavs)
    Tim Thomas
    tony Allen
    Aaron Affalo
    Chris dudley
    Tree rollins
    clarence Weatherspoon
    Eric snow
    Wali Jones
    Ben Gordon
    Asik
    Tyrone Hill
    George Lynch
    Derek Anderson
    Vernon Maxwell rockets
    Mcgee


    7.

    coaches:


    Charles Barkley
    Kblaze8855
    Skip Bayless
    Gobb
    Jay Leno

    Players

    Tyrus thomas
    Hakim Warrick
    Boobie Gibson
    Jeff McInnis
    Stromile swift
    Darko
    Smush Parker
    chris childs
    Mateen Cleaves
    Tim Legler
    Damon Jones
    Tyron Lue(00-02)
    Robin Lopez
    Eddie House
    Earl Watson
    Craig Smith
    Alvn Williams
    Chucky Atkins
    Mikki Moore
    Larry Sanders
    charlie ward
    Ramon Sessions
    Shawn Bradley
    Kurt Rambis
    Travis best
    vonteego Cummings
    Kwame Brown
    Jason Kapono
    Luke Walton(current)
    Sean May(bocats)
    Sun Yue
    Manute Bol
    Steve Novak
    Danny Ferry
    Mike James
    Leon Powe
    Anthony Parker
    Ike Austin
    Mo Pete
    George Muresan
    Keith Closs
    Keon clark
    Earl clark





    Lets see how bored you are.
    Last edited by Kblaze8855; 04-05-2013 at 12:35 PM.

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    Sample team...not my final team which ill be bored enough tomorrow at work to make....

    Starting with #2...

    (2)Pop as coach
    (2)Ewing as player
    (3)Rondo
    (4)Dale Ellis
    (4)AK47
    (4)Alan Houston
    (5)Christie
    (5)Darrell Armstrong
    (5)Mark Eaton
    (6)Dell Curry
    (6)Battier
    (7)Anthony Parker
    (7)Chris Childs

    Not as talented as it could be but with Pop coaching...its contending

    Rondo/Darrell/Curry/Childs
    Dale Ellis/Houston
    Christie/Battier
    Ak47/Battier
    Ewing/Eaton

    Not really a team id put against the star lineups sure to come but id like to see Pop run small ball with that lineup.
    Last edited by Kblaze8855; 04-04-2013 at 05:51 PM.

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    Gonna make one later.. when are you picking a winner?

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    Um.....day the real playoffs start. Bit of a break after the season ends. I expect to be bored enough to read the topic start to finish and judge it fairly.

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    I like team building exercises though I have a different philosophy on team building than most, so I'll most likely participate after I go through the available picks.

    And I'm still going to build a team around at least one group 1 player anyway. During the last one that took place during the lockout, you said, "I doubt Magic, Bird, or Duncan even get taken. The only level 1s I see getting picked are Jordan, Hakeem, and Shaq," and I picked someone other than those three just to be original and because no one else would do it. Doing the same thing everyone else would do is boring. I'll have to see what the options are this time and think about it when I have time.

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    This tme ill say Doctor J is the not getting picked guy. And I had Drk is both 1 and 2 and couldnt decide....so I left him in #1 to make his fans make a tough call.

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    Durant is also hard. He doesnt feel like a tier 1...but hes so tempting as a #2. Durant and Phil Jackson to start? Or Durant and Ewing?

    I might have to bump him up.......

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
    This tme ill say Doctor J is the not getting picked guy.
    I agree, as no one's going to start with him over Jordan, Shaq, LeBron, etc.

    I also had a question. One of my projects actually involves team building, and for some I have draft lists of players for roles I want to fill. Would it be possible to select players that are unlisted, but getting the ruling from you which group they would qualify for IYO, or is it just "these are your options, these are your choices?" I don't imagine anyone else would have any unlisted players in mind anyway, but I thought it couldn't hurt to ask, as the worst you could say is no.

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    suggest a player ill gve him a spot I feel is fair.

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    Bulls should amnesty rose

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    2
    Durant
    Chris Paul

    3
    Doc Rivers

    4
    David West
    Luo Deng
    Rip Hamilton

    5
    Milsap
    Tyson Chandler
    Mo Williams

    6
    Bruce Bowen
    Bobby Jackson

    7
    Earl Clark
    Mike James

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    Coach: Larry Bird (4)

    Steph Curry (4)/ Kirk Hinrich (6)
    Doug Christie (5)/ Michael Cooper (6)
    LeBron James (1)/ Hedo Turkoglu (5)/ Shane Battier (6)
    Horace Grant (5)/ Earl Clark (7)
    Marc Gasol (4)/ Larry Sanders (7)/ Tyson Chandler (5)

    Earl Clark wouldn't play too much. Battier/LeBron/Turkoglu would play the 4 at times.

    Just did one quickly. Might do another one later.
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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    I'm going to go with plan A.

    1 from group 1
    3 from group 4
    4 from group 5
    3 from group 6
    2 from group 7



    Coach: Jeff Van Gundy (4)


    Shaq (1) Tyson Chandler, (Mavs (4))
    Horace Grant (5) Kurt Rambis (7)

    Tayshaun Prince (6) Shane Battier(6)
    Horry (5) Hedo (5)

    Korver (6) Michael Cooper(6) Eddie House (7)
    Steve Francis (4) Andre miller (5)

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    Group 2: Patrick Ewing, Kevin Durant
    Group 3: Kyrie Irving
    Group 4: Tom Thibodeau, Paul George, Joakim Noah
    Group 5: OJ Mayo, JR Smith, Richard Jefferson
    Group 6: Ibaka, Kirk Hinrich
    Group 7: Larry Sanders, Novak

    Coach: Thibs
    PG: Kyrie Irving
    SG: Paul George
    SF: Kevin Durant
    PF: Joakim Noah
    C: Patrick Ewing

    Bench
    G: OJ Mayo, JR Smith, Kirk Hinrich
    F/C: Richard Jefferson, Steve Novak, Ibaka, Larry Sanders

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    Default Re: Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
    suggest a player ill gve him a spot I feel is fair.
    I didn't wish to give anyone else any ideas or potentially tip my hand, but as your inbox is full, I can't ask privately.

    Gus Williams
    Nate McMillan (as a player)
    Andrew Toney
    Ricky Pierce
    Cedric Maxwell
    Carl Landry
    Craig Smith
    Leon Powe
    Bobby Jones
    Charles Oakley
    Jeff Ruland
    Thurl Bailey
    Bob Dandridge

    To name a few off the top of my head who weren't in the last one.

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