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    Default Re: A list of Lebron's top playoff performances

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam2
    Thats cute and all but...
    Both played 13 playoffs
    LeBron simply won more
    More playoff series
    Made more finals
    Scored more points
    Zero 1st round exits (MJ has THREE)
    Played tougher Finals

    I mean..its ova baby boi

    2ez

    issa wrap

    bran > mike

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    Default Re: A list of Lebron's top playoff performances

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Notice the gap between #1 and 2 is greater than the gap between 2 and 10:


    Playoffs PPG

    1) Jordan...... 33.5


    2) Iverson..... 29.7
    3) West......... 29.1
    4) Lebron...... 28.9
    5) Durant...... 28.8
    6) Barry......... 27.3
    7) Elgin......... 27.0
    8) Gervin...... 26.5
    9 Curry......... 26.0
    10) Hakem... 25.9



    CLUTCH - [COLOR="navy"]Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001[/COLOR]


    [COLOR="DarkRed"]134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%[/COLOR]
    108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...r_by=date_game



    Jordan 1997 Playoffs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
    Jordan 1998 Playoffs:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

    [COLOR="DarkRed"]42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%[/COLOR]
    25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game


    TLDR: MJ averaged 5 more ppg, while taking far more clutch shots on much better efficiency - even old MJ blows lebron away down the stretch of tight games (clutch)
    Didn't know Playoff Performance is only based on PPG

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    Default Re: A list of Lebron's top playoff performances

    Quote Originally Posted by CodeBreaker
    Didn't know Playoff Performance is only based on PPG
    he forget about rebounds assists and first round exits

    1baLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL is a funny cat

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    Default Re: A list of Lebron's top playoff performances

    Quote Originally Posted by FromDowntown

    He forget about rebounds and assists
    We don't need that because when was a player that averaged 5 more points on better efficiency NOT considered the much better player?

    I'll wait


    Quote Originally Posted by FromDowntown

    he forget about rebounds assists
    MJ averaged equal or greater assists thru 3 rings


    Jordan[color="white"]...[/color]91 - 93'[color="white"].[/color] Playoffs... 33.7 and 6.6 apg
    Lebron 12/13/16 Playoffs... 27.2 and 7.2 apg

    Jordan[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR]91 - 93'[COLOR="White"]'.[/COLOR] Finals... 36.3 and 7.9 apg
    Lebron 12/13/16 Finals... 27.0 and 7.2 apg

    Jordan Playoffs thru 30 (85-93')... 34.7 and 6.6 apg
    Lebron Playoffs thru 30 (06-15')... 27.2 and 7.2 apg

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    I highlighted the only ones that matter - that's 5 legendary performances

    The rest are early round series and honestly, it's embarrassing that they would make the top 10.. it shows how few truly great performances he's had on the championship level..

    And it should be mentioned that his 2 great games in the 2016 Finals were accompanied by goat performance from his sidekick as well, thus lessening the "carry-job" factor - kyrie and lebron's high-level play elevated and took pressure off each other, while allowing the cast to rely more exclusively on just those two, just like AD/Lebron this year - their high level of play elevates each other and allows the lakers to rely more exclusively on just them, thus boosting their stats.

    But even more important than the early-round factor and sidekick the sidekick/lesser carry-job factor, it's likely that other greats with the requisite skills to fit better with Wade/Bosh would've had much better Heat teams than Lebron had - so any great performance they have alongside Wade/Bosh was more needed to win the game given that Wade/Bosh were playing closer to max capacity and the team was stronger overall

    In other words, Lebron's performances with a cast that is playing below capacity can't compare to great performances that occurred when the team was truly pushed to the limit (the cast was playing to capacity)..

    Other greats would simply NOT be down 3-2 to the fossilized Celtics in 2012, and wouldn't need a comeback - the comeback factor inflates lebron's performances because it resulted from team underachievement

    Finally, I'll say again that the 5 games above that aren't bolded are pretty subjective early round series games that every star has..

    All of this is to say that Lebron isn't the winner other greats were
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    You're nitpicking. If you were to do that,you'd be hard pressed to find any "classic"games by any all time great.

    Who cares why they were down 3-2against Boston (and I agree with you. They shouldn't have been). But the fact is that they were and game 6 was an elimination game. And Lebron proceeded to score 45 and 15 on 70% while helping hold Pierve to 4-18 shooting. In Boston. With his legacy on the line. On what planet is that not a big game?

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    Default Re: A list of Lebron's top playoff performances

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    We don't need that because when was a player that averaged 5 more points on better efficiency NOT considered the much better player?

    I'll wait




    MJ averaged equal or greater assists thru 3 rings


    Jordan[color="white"]...[/color]91 - 93'[color="white"].[/color] Playoffs... 33.7 and 6.6 apg
    Lebron 12/13/16 Playoffs... 27.2 and 7.2 apg

    Jordan[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR]91 - 93'[COLOR="White"]'.[/COLOR] Finals... 36.3 and 7.9 apg
    Lebron 12/13/16 Finals... 27.0 and 7.2 apg

    Jordan Playoffs thru 30 (85-93')... 34.7 and 6.6 apg
    Lebron Playoffs thru 30 (06-15')... 27.2 and 7.2 apg
    Not saying you're wrong, but please provide a link for the Jordan 》 Lebron in assists number that you gave us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
    You're nitpicking. If you were to do that,you'd be hard pressed to find any "classic"games by any all time great.

    Who cares why they were down 3-2against Boston (and I agree with you. They shouldn't have been). But the fact is that they were and game 6 was an elimination game. And Lebron proceeded to score 45 and 15 on 70% while helping hold Pierve to 4-18 shooting. In Boston. With his legacy on the line. On what planet is that not a big game?
    MJ averaged 36/7/8 on 53% in the 91-93' Finals - many of those games are on the level of the 5 games I highlighted:

    - Game 2 of 1991 Finals - MJ hit 13 straight shots and had the switch hands play
    - Game 3 of 1991 Finals - MJ sent the game into OT with a shot, and then dominated the OT while shutting down Magic after Pip fouled out in regulation

    - Game 1 of 1992 Finals - shrug game
    - Game 4 of 1992 Finals - 46/5/4 to put the Bulls up 3-2

    - most games in the 1993 Finals - 48/10/6 in games 2-4 (when the series was won)

    - Game 1 of 1997 Finals - legendary walk-off winner
    - Game 2 of 1997 Finals - 38/13/9
    - Game 5 of 1997 Finals - flu game

    - Game 6 - goat clutch; 45 of 87 team points; pip and rodman MIA


    ^^^ that's just the Finals... MJ had a couple legendary series walk-off winners and some ECF games in 89', 90', 92, 93, 96' and 98' that were legendary



    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny

    Not saying you're wrong, but please provide a link for the Jordan 》 Lebron in assists number that you gave us.
    Jordan's Finals Assists

    1991 - 57
    1992 - 39
    1993 - 38
    __________
    134/17 = 7.88 apg


    Lebron's Finals Assists

    2016 - 62
    2013 - 49
    2012 - 37
    __________
    148/19 = 7.79 apg


    ^^^ So Jordan passed more for his first 3 Finals win than Lebron... Also:


    Jordan Playoffs thru 30 (85-93')... 34.7 and 6.6 apg
    Lebron Playoffs thru 30 (06-15')... 28.2 and 6.7 apg

    Jordan 1991-1993 Playoffs... 33.7 and 6.6 apg
    Lebron 12/13/16... Playoffs... 27.2 and 7.2 apg

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    MJ averaged 36/7/8 on 53% in the 91-93' Finals - many of those games are on the level of the 5 games I highlighted:

    - Game 2 of 1991 Finals - MJ hit 13 straight shots and had the switch hands play
    - Game 3 of 1991 Finals - MJ sent the game into OT with a shot, and then dominated the OT while shutting down Magic after Pip fouled out in regulation

    - Game 1 of 1992 Finals - shrug game
    - Game 4 of 1992 Finals - 46/5/4 to put the Bulls up 3-2

    - most games in the 1993 Finals - 48/10/6 in games 2-4 (when the series was won)

    - Game 1 of 1997 Finals - legendary walk-off winner
    - Game 2 of 1997 Finals - 38/13/9
    - Game 5 of 1997 Finals - flu game

    - Game 6 - goat clutch; 45 of 87 team points; pip and rodman MIA


    ^^^ that's just the Finals... MJ had a couple legendary series walk-off winners and some ECF games in 89', 90', 92, 93, 96' and 98' that were legendary




    Jordan's Finals Assists

    1991 - 57
    1992 - 39
    1993 - 38
    __________
    134/17 = 7.88 apg


    Lebron's Finals Assists

    2016 - 62
    2013 - 49
    2012 - 37
    __________
    148/19 = 7.79 apg


    ^^^ So Jordan passed more for his first 3 Finals win than Lebron... Also:


    Jordan Playoffs thru 30 (85-93')... 34.7 and 6.6 apg
    Lebron Playoffs thru 30 (06-15')... 28.2 and 6.7 apg

    Jordan 1991-1993 Playoffs... 33.7 and 6.6 apg
    Lebron 12/13/16... Playoffs... 27.2 and 7.2 apg
    Thanks for the link.

    I'm not sure why you mentioned Jordan' games up top. Nobody is arguing that Jordan doesnt have his legendary games. I - like you - think he's the greatest ever.
    This thread is about Lebron. Why do you feel the need to bring up Jordan in every thread. How does talking about Lebron detract from MJ, in any way?

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    Default Re: A list of Lebron's top playoff performances

    Quote Originally Posted by superduper View Post
    2011.

    Boom.
    Doesn't invalidate his great performances.

    Incidentally, he had 2 greater performances in 3 days in the 2016 finals than Kobe had in 20 years.

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    Default Re: A list of Lebron's top playoff performances

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny View Post
    Doesn't invalidate his great performances.

    Incidentally, he had 2 greater performances in 3 days in the 2016 finals than Kobe had in 20 years.
    Kobe never played against a team that was missing its starting frontcourt tho. Lebron was out there balling against david lee and harrison barnes

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownmamba00 View Post
    Kobe never played against a team that was missing its starting frontcourt tho. Lebron was out there balling against david lee and harrison barnes
    But lebron had better games against the same teams Kobe faced. The games against the Magic in 2009. The game 7 against Boston in 2008. They really arent comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam2 View Post
    How about 2018?

    Game 6 and 7 ECF vs Celtics when Love was.concussed

    He averaged like 40-11-8


    And his 51-8-8 game 1 2018 Finals
    Op how you miss these?!

    Oh, this is only to 2016. Redo time, the man is still playing!

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    Default Re: A list of Lebron's top playoff performances

    look at those iconic moments

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    Default Re: A list of Lebron's top playoff performances

    Yes, Yes, Yes

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    He's a good player.

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