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    Default Anyone on here honestly think Jordan impacts a game more than Wilt or Shaq?



    Big men are just superior. Deal with it.

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    Default Re: Anyone on here honestly think Jordan impacts a game more than Wilt or Shaq?

    Nobody thinks that (same with a few other bigs), it's nonsensical. But Jordan probably comes closest out of wings.

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    Default Re: Anyone on here honestly think Jordan impacts a game more than Wilt or Shaq?

    How do us fans measure this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fpliii
    Nobody thinks that (same with a few other bigs), it's nonsensical. But Jordan probably comes closest out of wings.


    It just bothers me when inferior players are ranked ahead because of rings.

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    Default Re: Anyone on here honestly think Jordan impacts a game more than Wilt or Shaq?

    can you imagine Jordan beating Shaq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I<3NBA
    can you imagine Jordan beating Shaq?

    It's a team game played 5 on 5, not 1 on 1.

    I think this concept escapes people quite often.

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    Default Re: Anyone on here honestly think Jordan impacts a game more than Wilt or Shaq?

    They impact the game differently.

    Big guys can control the paint, wings control the perimeter.

    Obviously Wilt would have more impact on controlling the paint with block shots or rebounding etc

    Jordan is going to have more impact on the perimeter. Wilt isn't going to be closing out on three point shooters, or trapping perimeter players etc

    A team needs impact from the paint and from the perimeter to be successful.

    A star wing with role players that protect the paint and rebound can win a championship

    A star big with role playing wings that can shoot and run the offense can win a championship.

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    Default Re: Anyone on here honestly think Jordan impacts a game more than Wilt or Shaq?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
    MJ impacted the game more than Shaq, If Shaq is more dominate then MJ, then how did Shaq only make the finals ONE time during the 90's when MJ was playing?

    And its not like Shaq didn't have help.

    If big men impact the game so much more than wings, then tell me, in a era that produced some of the greatest big men of all time (Shaq, Robinson, Barkley, Malone, Hakeem) then why did none of these guys win rings when MJ was playing?

    Why is it always an acceptable excuse for the ringless Malone & Barkley to say "oh they played in the Jordan era"
    Shaq wasn't in his prime, Robinson had shit teams, and Barkley/Malone weren't traditional bigs since they didn't anchor their defenses. Hakeem made it twice and if his team was worth a damn he'd make it in 93 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatDeraj
    They impact the game differently.

    Big guys can control the paint, wings control the perimeter.

    Obviously Wilt would have more impact on controlling the paint with block shots or rebounding etc

    Jordan is going to have more impact on the perimeter. Wilt isn't going to be closing out on three point shooters, or trapping perimeter players etc

    A team needs impact from the paint and from the perimeter to be successful.

    A star wing with role players that protect the paint and rebound can win a championship

    A star big with role playing wings that can shoot and run the offense can win a championship.
    Wilt isn't, but other bigs have/are. Russell, Thurmond, Hakeem, Robinson, Garnett, Noah, etc. They're more versatile and generally more valuable than guys who just protect the paint.

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    Default Re: Anyone on here honestly think Jordan impacts a game more than Wilt or Shaq?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
    MJ impacted the game more than Shaq, If Shaq is more dominate then MJ, then how did Shaq only make the finals ONE time during the 90's when MJ was playing?

    And its not like Shaq didn't have help.

    If big men impact the game so much more than wings, then tell me, in a era that produced some of the greatest big men of all time (Shaq, Robinson, Barkley, Malone, Hakeem) then why did none of these guys win rings when MJ was playing?

    Why is it always an acceptable excuse for the ringless Malone & Barkley to say "oh they played in the Jordan era"
    MJ impacted the game MORE than Shaq
    you are stupid

    Reason being Shaq got to one finals Jordan more in 90s
    Shaq was a rookie whos team wasnt as great as Jordans
    wasnt in his prime surrounded by going up against HOF
    Type Centers
    while Jordan had One of GOAT Defenders in Pippen
    had great shooters and roleplayers
    had Goat Defender in Rodman
    and had good pf in Grant and solid bench
    along with something called being Medias num 1 star and NBAs poster boy who was untouchable

    What Elite HOF SG did Jordan face in 90s
    Drexler and ?
    Shaq went up against
    Hakerm,Robinson,Ewing,Mourning,Malone

    You go on about rookie Shaq,so how about
    how come Jordan didnt get in the Finals ONE time in the 80s
    same age as Shaq
    What happened then

    Individuals dont win Championships regardless of what ESPN and the media tries and has made you believe
    Teams DO
    otherwise Wilt would have won Everything
    80s pistons wouldve won jack,60s Celtics arent winning,11 Mavs arent winning

    Called a Team,The Bulls not Jordan vs Hakeem vs Shaq vs Payton

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    Default Re: Anyone on here honestly think Jordan impacts a game more than Wilt or Shaq?

    I think a Jordan and Lebron are just as impactful, because they do so much. To judge impact you have to consider how they played against the person guarding him. You might say, "Well Shaq averaged 12 rpg," but he's a center, he's expected to average around that amount, so you have to compare by how much he would out rebound a Luc Longley.

    I mean in general a great center is going to impact the game more, but these are special circumstances. Very efficient perimeter players who can shut down the person they're guarding.

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