[The Truth About..] Mj's Comp

[sdot_thadon]

I guess with the offseason ending soon it's time to dump this info into the wild. I dread making this thread but, I've had a few posters get at me for saying Mj more times than not enjoyed a talent advantage throughout his title runs. This will become a growing data list over time perhaps. Let's take a look at some interesting facts surrounding Michael Jordan's comp:


[COLOR="Navy"]In his 6 finals runs, of those 24 series the following occured:[/COLOR]


[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]ALLSTARS

[LAmbruh]

Damn, this is what you call a OC 5* banger

Great use of color coordinating and summarizing synopsis at the end

Bookmarked and saved

Take notes 3ball

[AlternativeAcc.]

90's

[LAmbruh]

Also if you don't mind me asking, can I use the OP to start a hot debate over in RGM and /r/nba


Thanks in advance

[sdot_thadon]

Also if you don't mind me asking, can I use the OP to start a hot debate over in RGM and /r/nba


Thanks in advance

It was probably better suited for those places anyway. Have fun.

[Manny98]

5* nothing but unbiased facts

3ball is not going to like this though

[LAmbruh]

It was probably better suited for those places anyway. Have fun.

I'll reference your OP and reward you internet clout

[NBAGOAT]

thought you go a little more in depth but using accolades was a good idea to get rid of subjectivity

[FromDowntown]

Damn, this is what you call a OC 5* banger

Great use of color coordinating and summarizing synopsis at the end

Bookmarked and saved

Take notes 3ball

+1

This post is astounding, nice work to TS. This should hopefully keep that 3ball guy quite for a while. I'm not so sure most didnt know Jordan was playing against very weak opposition but it never hurts to highlight and drive a stake deeper into the hearts of Jordan fans round the world.

[FromDowntown]

90's

Oh boy them are fightin' words! This whole entire thread is a blow to Jordans fragile 'legacy' if we can call it that

[RealSkipBayless]

Can 3ball muster a response?

[3ball]

Comp doh

- Same stats apply to Lebron, and Lebron only overcame 1 talent deficit (2007)

- MJ overcame more talent deficits.. and bigger ones

1) 1989 - the #10 SRS Bulls with 1 all-star beat the #1 SRS team with 3 all-star plus 20/5/5 Ron Harper

2) MJ/Pippen beat 3 HOF's Isiah/Dumars/Rodman and 2 more 3x all-stars (laimberr/aguirre)

3) MJ beat Ewing's superior team and casts in 1989


^^^ those are the documented ones, but the reality is that MJ beat more talented teams in about half his playoff series, including all the Finals from the first 3-peat

Jordan beat no one

[COLOR="DarkRed"]LeBron beat the cream of the crop[/COLOR]

^^^ No he didn't - he lost to them, usually with super-teams of his own

Everyone knows that his "not 6, not 7" Heat had the most talent in the league from 2011-2014, and his 2016 Cavs saw their 2nd option demolish the Warriors' 1st option...

In other words, it's his opponents that can complain about facing talent deficits to his colluded, stacked deck teams

Ultimately, Lebron had Big 3's and only faced a talent deficit in 07', 15', and 18'...

17' is debatable and the goat is supposed to make up for differences anyway - the fact that he never did shows he isn't the goat.. the only talent deficit he overcame was the 2007 ECF, and MJ overcame much bigger talent deficits then that - let me know if you need me to specify with all the relevant stats and proof

Jordan beat no one

LeBron beat the cream of the crop

Take notes

Facing great teams is no excuse for not having a great team yourself that can compete EVENLY - but Lebron is 2-5 against the best teams of the era (Spurs/Warriors), so Lebron failed to compete at an elite standard (let alone a goat standard)
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[Turbo Slayer]

Facing great teams is no excuse for not having a great team yourself that can compete EVENLY - but Lebron is 2-5 against the best teams of the era (Spurs/Warriors), so Lebron failed to compete at an elite standard (let alone a goat standard)
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Bruh. You serious????? 2-5. Its 3-6.

Lebron is the 2nd GOAT!!!!!!!

WE WINNING THIS WAR BOIS!!

[3ball]

Bruh. You serious????? 2-5. Its 3-6.

Lebron is the 2nd GOAT!!!!!!!

WE WINNING THIS WAR BOIS!!

By Lebron's own goat criteria (overcoming talent deficits), Lebron isn't top 10 and Dirk's 2011 is top 3

The only talent deficit Lebron overcame was 2007 ECF, and he only averaged 25 ppg on 45% in that series... Super weak

[egokiller]

Any attempt to diminish MJ's comp is negated by the fact that Lebron's comp was so bad it enabled him to be in the finals 8 times in a row.

What's sad is that despite that, all he could do was manage 3 rings, 2 of which were the direct result of 2 of the greatest shots in the history of the NBA by teammates.



Another one.

That was too easy.