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The Magical T-Mac
Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Originally Posted by RoboticWang
No one is arguing this. At least.. no one should.
I'm just putting it out there pre-emptively in case any ignorant Kobe stans try to say Kobe is the greatest Laker.
Oops, too late. Rubio2Gasol and Clippersfan86 already did
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The Magical T-Mac
Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
No. Shaq won a ring elsewhere and played the last 6 seasons or w/e elsewhere. Kobe is a career Laker and has broken all of the Lakers records pretty much. Was Shaq better than Kobe? Yes. Was he a greater Laker? No.
Yes Shaq was the greater Laker.
If you say Kobe is, you're just overrating longevity and team loyalty.
Being there for a number of years to sustain a level of play that's far below the Diesel in his prime doesn't make him more impactful.
Shaq's greatness is still unmatched. Re-read those 3 reasons I listed.
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Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Originally Posted by HardwoodLegend
Yes Shaq was the greater Laker.
If you say Kobe is, you're just overrating longevity and team loyalty.
Being there for a number of years to sustain a level of play that's far below the Diesel in his prime doesn't make him more impactful.
Shaq's greatness is still unmatched. Re-read those 3 reasons I listed.
Originally Posted by RoboticWang
Players' productivity based on the era they played in, as well as their longevity with the team. Also the players' contribution to the team's success, as well as their individual numbers and accolades.
Please tell me how Shaq outweighs Kobe according to this criteria. If you're going to give Shaq the edge because of how dominant he was during the 3 peat then he should be ranked above Magic too on this list.
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The Magical T-Mac
Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Originally Posted by Mr. I'm So Rad
Please tell me how Shaq outweighs Kobe according to this criteria. If you're going to give Shaq the edge because of how dominant he was during the 3 peat then he should be ranked above Magic too on this list.
Magic has 3 Finals MVP's, 3 MVP's, 4 assist titles, 2 steal titles, etc.
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877-954-1893
Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Was Paul Westphal the best Sun on some of those mid 70 teams, i would think he would deserve a mention over guys like marion and amare
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Trump Towers
Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
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Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Originally Posted by HardwoodLegend
Magic has 3 Finals MVP's, 3 MVP's, 4 assist titles, 2 steal titles, etc.
Ok if you want to go there the only thing Shaq has over Kobe is 1 FMVP. Kobe has more scoring titles (as a Laker), the same amount of MVPs, and holds almost every major record in Lakers' history. So again, if you're basing it on the fact that Shaq was so dominant as a player, he should be above Magic too.
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Dishonest, awful excuse of a fan
Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
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College star
Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Russell or Bird
Ewing or Frazier
Walton or Drexler
Hayes or Unseld
Barkley or Nash
Julius or Wilt
Somewhat hard to decide there (some more than others).
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Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
I'd consider having Shaq over Magic on an arbitrary all-time list, but maybe not this list.
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Larry Legend
Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Originally Posted by cotdt
kobe over maguic
GREAT point! I rest my case. KOBE da GOAT EVER!
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College star
Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Originally Posted by cotdt
kobe over maguic
Originally Posted by Rubio2Gasol
-Melo over English for Denver.
- Kobe over Magic if it's based on who is the better player and who has had the better cumulative career. Magic for legacy and impact on the Franchise.
Just
Originally Posted by MMM
Was Paul Westphal the best Sun on some of those mid 70 teams, i would think he would deserve a mention over guys like marion and amare
Yes
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Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Shaq over Howard.
Orlando Magic with Shaq its classic;
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King James
Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Great list Only change I'd make is Charles and Nash.
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Not airballing my layups anymore
Re: The Best Player in Each NBA Franchise's History
Maybe add Ben Wallace to the Pistons but overall good list.
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