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    Default Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    First of all, please let it be known that there is no "This era is bad / This era is good" agenda or "This player was better / This player was worse" agenda here or whatever agenda.... it is strictly stats based on 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.... it means nothing more than speculation, take it for what it literally is....

    Just thought i would share with you a "research" i just did, i really was curious about what some of the all-time great players would hypothetically averaged if they had to work with the exact same league/team pace........... did some research (google/bball-reference) and then calculated those players averages per 100 possessions a game & 40 mpg.... i took only one of their best statistical seasons....

    I picked 12 players for now, will do more later... feel free to ask about any other players numbers you wish to see "transformed" and i will do it....

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    (not a must read) How do you calculate this? Example:

    First we must transform a players averages to 100 poss. per game...
    Lets say you averaged 24.3 ppg for your career in 102.1 poss. per game...
    you divide 24.3 with 102.1, which gives us 0.238.... which means that you averaged 0.238 ppg per possession..... now we just multiply 0.238 with 100 and that gets us to 23.8... 23.8 ppg in 100 possessions...

    Now we go to the minutes, lets say you averaged 38.4 mpg for your career while averaging 23.8 ppg in 100 possessions a game.... so we divide 23.8 with 38.4, which gives/means 0.619 points per minute.... so, 0.619 pts x 40 minutes = 24.8 ppg...

    Result = You averaged 24.8 ppg in 40 mpg with 100 poss. per game.

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    If you are curious, here is the factual estimations of league history possessions per game:

    2000s & current poss. per game = 90-100
    1990s poss. per game = 90-100
    1980s poss. per game = 100-110
    1970s poss. per game = 110-130
    1960s poss. per game = 140-160

    Lets just go with 100 possessions and 40 mpg...

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    Oscar Robertson 1961-62:

    18.5 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 6.9 apg in 100 poss. per game. & 40 mpg.

    30.8 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 11.4 apg in his ~150 poss. per game. & 44.3 mpg.

    Wilt Chamberlain 1961-62:

    27.7 ppg, 14.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 100 poss. per game. & 40 mpg.

    50.4 ppg, 25.7 rpg, 2.4 apg in his ~150 poss. per game. & 48.5 mpg.

    Bill Russell 1961-62:

    11.2 ppg, 13.9 rpg, 2.7 apg in 100 poss. per game. & 40 mpg.

    18.9 ppg, 23.6 rpg, 4.5 apg in his ~150 poss. per game. & 45.2 mpg.

    Shaquille O'Neal 1999-00:

    31.8 ppg, 14.8 rpg, 4.1 apg in 100 poss. per game & 40 mpg.

    29.7 ppg, 13.8 rpg, 3.8 apg in his 93.3 poss. per game. & 40.0 mpg.

    Larry Bird 1986-87:

    28.0 rpg, 9.2 rpg, 7.6 apg in 100 poss. per game & 40 mpg.

    28.1 rpg, 9.2 rpg, 7.6 apg in his 99 poss. per game. & 40.5 mpg.

    Magic Johnson 1986-87:

    25.8 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 13.1 apg in 100 poss. per game. & 40 mpg.

    23.9 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 12.2 apg in his 102 poss. per game. & 36.3 mpg.

    Kobe Bryant 2005-06:

    37.9 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 4.8 apg in 100 poss. per game & 40 mpg.

    35.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 4.5 apg in his 91 poss. per game. & 41 mpg.

    Hakeem Olajuwon 1992-93:

    27.9 ppg, 14.0 rpg, 3.7 apg in his 100 poss. per game & 40 mpg.

    26.1 ppg, 13.0 rpg, 3.5 apg in 94.4 poss. per game & 39.5 mpg.

    Kareem Abdul Jabbar 1971-72:

    26.2 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 3.4 apg in 100 poss. per game & 40 mpg.

    34.8 ppg, 16.6 rpg, 4.6 apg in his ~120 poss. per game & 44.2 mpg.

    Jerry West 1965-66:

    20.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 4.0 apg in 100 poss. per game & 40 mpg.

    31.3 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 6.1 apg in his ~150 poss. per game & 40.7 mpg.

    LeBron James 2009-10::

    33.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 9.6 apg in 100 poss. per game & 40 mpg

    29.7 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 8.6 apg in his 91.4 poss. per game & 39.0 mpg.

    Michael Jordan 1988-89:

    33.2 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 8.1 apg in 100 poss. per game & 40 mpg

    32.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 8.0 apg in his 97.0 poss. per game & 40.2 mpg.




    Some fun facts:

    1. Wilt's & Oscar's best productions were actually mortal (still impressive though)... they just happened in a very different time thats all..

    2. Per possession & minute Michael Jordan & Lebron James average the best overall productions for their career....... and per possession & minute Jordan, Lebron and Shaq had easily the most productive single seasons in NBA history.....

    3. Magic Johnson's & Lebron James current career averages would be triple double career averages with ~150 poss. per game.

    4. Per possession & minute Kobe Bryant in 2005-06 had actually the 2nd most impressive point production in NBA history.... #1 is Michael Jordan in 1986-87 who averaged 38.6 ppg in 100 poss. per game & 40 mpg....
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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    Tldr

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zodiac
    Tldr
    It's not even that long of a post phaggit

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zodiac
    Tldr
    You dont have to be hard on yourself, you dont have to read all that... just look at the stats if interested, which will take you just some seconds, if you are curious about more details perhaps then read or ask.... :)

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    First of all, please let it be known that there is no "This era is bad / This era is good" agenda or "This player was better / This player was worse" agenda here or whatever agenda.
    Sure there is. It may or may not be an interesting set of numbers to glance at....but ets just be real about it.

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    I always knew Shaq > Wilt.

    CONFIRMED

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    Interesting. Might read it all later. Just glanced through the stats.

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    Why per 100? Why not 120 or 130? Per 100 obviously will favor modern day basketball players' numbers.

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    I like this, can I see T-Mac, Duncan and Kobe from 2002-03 and CP3 from 2007-08 please?

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Living Being
    I always knew Shaq > Wilt.

    CONFIRMED
    Would Shaq be able to run up and down the court for 48 minutes and 140 possessions an entire season

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rubio2Gasol
    Would Shaq be able to run up and down the court for 48 minutes and 140 possessions an entire season
    Sure. He'd just weigh 20 lbs less.

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    where did op get numbers for pace for wilt and oscars teams?

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    918 words

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    Quote Originally Posted by dunksby
    Why per 100? Why not 120 or 130? Per 100 obviously will favor modern day basketball players' numbers.
    those number will still go higher no matter what number u choose

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    Default Re: Some of the All-Time greats averages in 100 poss. per game and 40 mpg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
    Sure there is. It may or may not be an interesting set of numbers to glance at....but ets just be real about it.
    Whatever you wish Kblaze.... fine with me...

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