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    Default Re: LeBron James right now is the best player of all time

    This is your brain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Segatti
    I don't know why people think he's far from Jordan or something. Jordan put 5 points more than Lebron in average, but Lebron is a better passer. Efficiency wise they are on the same level. All around skill are close too.
    This is your brain on basketball knowledge.

    Scoring: MJ
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    Post: MJ
    Jumpshot: MJ
    Open-court: Push
    Finishing: Push
    Offensive repertoire: MJ
    Passing: LJ
    Rebounding: LJ
    Offensive rebounding: MJ
    Defensive rebounding: LJ
    Defense: MJ
    On-ball defense (perimeter): MJ
    On-ball defense (post): MJ
    Off-ball defense: MJ
    Team defense: LJ
    Steals: MJ
    Blocks: MJ
    Shooting: MJ
    Mid-range: MJ
    Three-point: LJ
    Free-throws: MJ
    Handles: MJ
    Efficiency: Push
    Clutch: MJ
    Mental game: MJ
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    i dont know why people really overrate lebron.. he might have pretty stats but when it comes to offensive rating, even dirk is better than him. Now durant in his 6th year is already better than peak dirk. I actually think that dirk is better than lebron and couldve been ranked higher if he wasnt screwed by the refs in his first finals appearance. Dirks career really is almost the same as lebron and he was playing in the tight western conference.

    I really view lebron as a low risk low reward type of player. If you want to win right away, you pick him but theres a higher chance too that you wont win a ring if you only surround him with lesser players whereas (durant,dirk) is the high risk high reward type of players where theres a greater risk that you would fail if you dont know how to build around them but you only need lesser players to win with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knicksman
    i dont know why people really overrate lebron.. he might have pretty stats but when it comes to offensive rating, even dirk is better than him. Now durant in his 6th year is already better than peak dirk. I actually think that dirk is better than lebron and couldve been ranked higher if he wasnt screwed by the refs in his first finals appearance. Dirks career really is almost the same as lebron and he was playing in the tight western conference.

    I really view lebron as a low risk low reward type of player. If you want to win right away, you pick him but theres a higher chance too that you wont win a ring if you only surround him with lesser players whereas (durant,dirk) is the high risk high reward type of players where theres a greater risk that you would fail if you dont know how to build around them but you only need lesser players to win with them.
    Stfu knicksman, you are the dumbest poster on here. You still havent explained why you think drose is a cancer, why bronzy is a low impact star and why bosh is better than pippen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red1
    Stfu knicksman, you are the dumbest poster on here. You still havent explained why you think drose is a cancer, why bronzy is a low impact star and why bosh is better than pippen.
    The obvious explanation is that he has the brainpower of a chipmunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    The obvious explanation is that he has the brainpower of a chipmunk.
    The kid is so fcuking dumb my goodness

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    Quote Originally Posted by red1
    Stfu knicksman, you are the dumbest poster on here. You still havent explained why you think drose is a cancer, why bronzy is a low impact star and why bosh is better than pippen.
    bulls still got the best record without rose and bosh has proven to be a franchise player while pippen is not. Lebron might produce more wins on a bad team but not on a team with talent. I dont see lebron/westbrook producing as much as okc right now. In fact bosh and wade are both better than westbrook yet okc had more wins than heat 2 seasons in a row. And thats the reason why lebrons off rtg despite the stats is not as good as durant, dirk, magic, jordan, cp3 because he doesnt make the whole greater than the sum of its parts. Yet people want to rank him above jordan coz he is averaging triple doubles. But how come it doesnt translate to better off rtg or wins or rings. If you want to rank him above jordan, beat his off rtg first. Right now durant is matching jordans career high.

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    Is this dumbass actually trying to make an argument to prove that rose is a cancer, bosh is better than pippen, and bronzy is low impact? Do you even have eyes? Do you even have a brain? No one ranks bronzy over jordan that would be ALMOST as dumb as the shit that you say

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    This guy is seriously basing how good a player is by Offensive Rating?
    Okay, Knicksman, by your logic, Steve Kerr is the GOAT and Tyson Chandler is the best player in the NBA.
    Care to address this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    This guy is seriously basing how good a player is by Offensive Rating?
    Okay, Knicksman, by your logic, Steve Kerr is the GOAT and Tyson Chandler is the best player in the NBA.
    Care to address this?
    He just gave me a new one "lebron is not as good as chris paul"

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    Quote Originally Posted by red1
    Is this dumbass actually trying to make an argument to prove that rose is a cancer, bosh is better than pippen, and bronzy is low impact? Do you even have eyes? Do you even have a brain? No one ranks bronzy over jordan that would be ALMOST as dumb as the shit that you say
    So what this thread all about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    This guy is seriously basing how good a player is by Offensive Rating?
    Okay, Knicksman, by your logic, Steve Kerr is the GOAT and Tyson Chandler is the best player in the NBA.
    Care to address this?
    yeah coz they have the same usage rate as the durants of the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knicksman
    So what this thread all about?
    if you could read you would realize that the OP went out of his way to state that he does not rank bronzy over jordan

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    Red1, I guess this is what Knicksman's all-time list looks like:
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...tg_career.html


    Keep in mind Steve Kerr has the highest ORTG ever, for some reason they don't list him anymore they used to IIRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    Red1, I guess this is what Knicksman's all-time list looks like:
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...tg_career.html


    Keep in mind Steve Kerr has the highest ORTG ever, for some reason they don't list him anymore they used to IIRC
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    Honestly Titles are a team accomplishment....Not an individual accomplishment....To ever bring titles into the argument when discussing individual accomplishments and skills is just plain wrong and dishonest.

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