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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by TrueRob
    They mainly got by on their defense. They were a great defensive team under Larry Brown.
    Yeah, that's why they needed someone like AI to take all those shots.

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by griffmoney1784
    22ppg and 9ast on good % should have been his average
    Just a few years ago, 2008 ...

    This was basically his averages when he was with the Nuggets (and was their best player too) ... he toned down the chucking, upped the passing a little more and the Nuggets were better for it.

    If only he still played defense and maturity and age set in for him at some point.

    But alas the next year he got into boozing and gambling and the rest is history.

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by griffmoney1784
    wrong

    22ppg and 9ast on good % should have been his average

    30ppg and 5ast on bad % was what he decided to go for


    instead of the sixers being able to have a tall capable SG on defense. they had to have 2 short back court players and have 1 of them get abused nightly by apposing teams SG's

    iverson was better at SG because he didnt want to be a PG. he sucked at PG because he didnt try hard enough
    Yeah because he had people to get him 9 assists.

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by griffmoney1784
    wrong

    22ppg and 9ast on good % should have been his average

    30ppg and 5ast on bad % was what he decided to go for


    instead of the sixers being able to have a tall capable SG on defense. they had to have 2 short back court players and have 1 of them get abused nightly by apposing teams SG's

    iverson was better at SG because he didnt want to be a PG. he sucked at PG because he didnt try hard enough
    The sixers had a tall PG who couldn't shoot (Snow)... A great match

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosBulls
    Yeah because he had people to get him 9 assists.
    Ask 2008 and 2009 CP3, who athletically and skill wise is similar to Iverson ... how to get the most out of lesser players.

    Brown played him at SG for a reason. He wasn't accepting of the natural PG role.

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by LosBulls
    He can be what 75% of ISH thought he was, but will never be what Allen Iverson really was or what AI was capable of being with out David Stern tearing down his career.
    Coming from a Bulls fan, Allen Iverson had the potential to be the GOAT and im serious. He alone took the 76ers to the finals with his second option being who? Larry Hughes?
    Come on, the second best player on that team was Dikembe Mutombo and he got shit on by shaq.
    I don't see DRose getting us to the finals this year and DRose actually has good backup.

    I feel that many posters on this board underrate what dedication and heart Allen Iverson spilled on to this game of basketball. Iverson wasn't just good not only because people liked seeing the shortest guy on the court dominating, but because he did the impossible and unthinkable and he always somehow got his team through.
    We will never see another guy under 6 feet tall devour teams like AI did and I will be amazed if we do as long as im alive.

    Just my 2 cents.
    Lots of respect brother, I totally agree!

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by Samurai Swoosh
    Ask 2008 and 2009 CP3, who athletically and skill wise is similar to Iverson ... how to get the most out of lesser players.

    Brown played him at SG for a reason. He wasn't accepting of the natural PG role.
    Paul's got better offensive players in his team that AI had then.

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by Samurai Swoosh
    Ask 2008 and 2009 CP3, who athletically and skill wise is similar to Iverson ... how to get the most out of lesser players.

    Brown played him at SG for a reason. He wasn't accepting of the natural PG role.
    DId AI have David West (All-Star)?

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by griffmoney1784
    wrong

    22ppg and 9ast on good % should have been his average

    30ppg and 5ast on bad % was what he decided to go for


    instead of the sixers being able to have a tall capable SG on defense. they had to have 2 short back court players and have 1 of them get abused nightly by apposing teams SG's

    iverson was better at SG because he didnt want to be a PG. he sucked at PG because he didnt try hard enough

    I agree with this.


    AI could have been the one of the GOAT at the PG position if he wanted to. A modern day Tiny Archibald.

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by Go Getter
    I agree with this.


    AI could have been the one of the GOAT at the PG position if he wanted to. A modern day Tiny Archibald.
    This is like when people say Dirk should play a different, "proper PF" style...
    He played best that way, why would he have to change? To play the "right way"?
    If a coach like Brown played him at SG, it was with good reason.

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by LosBulls
    DId AI have David West (All-Star)?
    No, he had Mutombo who was an All Star ... who was a legit All Star before Iverson.

    CP3 made David West

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by Samurai Swoosh
    No, he had Mutombo who was an All Star ... who was a legit All Star before Iverson.

    CP3 made David West
    As far as offense (and assists, which is what we're talking about), West >>>> Mutombo.
    And Mutombo was a midseason trade...

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by chains5000
    The sixers had a tall PG who couldn't shoot (Snow)... A great match
    Snow was 6'3" at best, not exactly a tall PG or a guy that could bother upper echelon 2's well.

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by chains5000
    As far as offense (and assists, which is what we're talking about), West >>>> Mutombo.
    And Mutombo was a midseason trade...
    wtf mutombo was the anchor of that 76ers team. and so how does him being a midseason trade have to do with the playoffs?

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    Default Re: Seriously Derrick Rose can be Allen Iverson if he tried

    Quote Originally Posted by chains5000
    This is like when people say Dirk should play a different, "proper PF" style...
    He played best that way, why would he have to change? To play the "right way"?
    If a coach like Brown played him at SG, it was with good reason.

    Yeah and they came up short because they built the team around a sub 6 foot 2-guard.

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