Can Lebron match Magic's 87 season?

[VeeCee15]

NEWS FLASH
stats wise...Luka is beating bron right now and he's 20.But why all the bron hype?

[RRR3]

His and Wade's on and off ball dynamic together was more like a just let Wade take a turn then switch it back to let LeBron take a turn at ball handling. Wade was the better off-ball player between the two of them. Look at LeBron's 61 point game for reference. He makes one backdoor cut, and one "catch and shoot" on the perimeter which he actually still put the ball down to dribble, and one great off-ball slash the entire game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmd_vOWQWx4

The rest of his plays (the overwhelming majority of baskets) were what he always does (albeit does great) - which is methodical, slow on the dribble decisions before the move is made (I'm not saying he's slow because once he moves he's quick, it's the decision that was slow). He's good at it. But it is totally opposite what a traditional shooting guard does. And the devils advocate to this playstyle is, that it takes up a ton of shot clock and can make teammates stagnate which has happened on a lot of LeBron teams over the years.

Did you really just use the best scoring game of LeBron

[hiphopanonymous]

Did you really just use the best scoring game of LeBron’s entire career as “proof” of your point? He was absolutely on fire, of course he’s gonna get to do what he wants a lot.

I watched LeBron in Miami a lot, especially 2012 where I watched almost every game. He was and remains a great cutter (doesn’t do it much now but he’s still great at it) and he spotted up a decent amount in Miami as well. Them’s the facts.

It's easier to show 1 game with triple the possessions than post 3 games for you and expect you to watch them.

That's how he played in Miami - he still did most of his work on ball even in Miami, he did a few (very few) off ball cuts - by no means was it ever his bread and butter. Nothing wrong with me sharing the 61 point game to make this point.

[lakerstekkenn]

James won't slow down because his teammates will get better and the Lakers Defense will get better and their offense will get better and they will start destroying teams and then the stats will go down because he's on the bench in the 4th against lesser teams. and that's great because he will need the rest because of his age.

[lakerstekkenn]

I would like to see what Magic and the Lakers would've done in today's NBA against these same teams destruction every night by 20.

Magic wouldn't be stopped and the Lakers would run everyone into the ground.

[lakerstekkenn]

Thing is that Magic could have averaged 25+ if he took a few more shots per game, Lebron has been a mediocre FT shooter all his career.

Magic wasn't a very good shooter himself.

[SpaceJam2]

25-11-10 40% 3p


LeHung

[StrongLurk]

Magic: 24/6/12/1.7/.5 with 3.8 TOV on 52/20/85 in 36.3 mpg
Lebron: 25/8/11/1.2/.6 with 3.0 TOV on 49/34/72 in 34.8 mpg

Magic won MVP and FMVP, and 87 can be considered Magic's peak season.

Magic was 27 that season, Lebron will be 35 this season.

Lebron now at 26/7/11 on 50/35/67

[Bronbron23]

Magic: 24/6/12/1.7/.5 with 3.8 TOV on 52/20/85 in 36.3 mpg
Lebron: 25/8/11/1.2/.6 with 3.0 TOV on 49/34/72 in 34.8 mpg

Magic won MVP and FMVP, and 87 can be considered Magic's peak season.

Magic was 27 that season, Lebron will be 35 this season.

No magic won that year and Lakers arnt beating the clippers this year.

[ImKobe]

Lebron now at 26/7/11 on 50/35/67

Turnovers went up from 3 to 4 as his assist numbers are slowly going down. Lebron's averaging 10.1 assists to 4.9 turnovers per game over his last 15 games while shooting 62.7% from the FT line.

[72-10]

I take it the combination of Magic's court vision and motor were pretty much peaking with the 87 Lakers, but the team might have been better than Magic was. He was probably making so many fast break assists and whipped passes amidst a transition offense that was peaking in chemistry at this point that it just overwhelmed the defense.

[StrongLurk]

Bump

[Whoah10115]

The point made about LeBron playing off with Wade is spot on. It's actually very similar to what people say about Pippen playing in an open court style. LeBron is definitely a better scorer than Pippen, but Pip would have done better (not than LeBron but then his recorded output) in an up-tempo offense.

Miami played a lot of high-tempo offense and Wade and James were great in taking turns and playing off each other in the open court.

Comparing Jordan when there are so many theads and posts about his off-ball game, and disregarding that LeBron doesn't play off the ball..

Stop.

[red1]

lebron "king" james


leading the league in assists in his 17th season - still the most athletic in the league

[Hey Yo]

Magic: 24/6/12/1.7/.5 with 3.8 TOV on 52/20/85 in 36.3 mpg
Lebron: 25/8/11/1.2/.6 with 3.0 TOV on 49/34/72 in 34.8 mpg

Magic won MVP and FMVP, and 87 can be considered Magic's peak season.

Magic was 27 that season, Lebron will be 35 this season.

The 3 teams the Lakers played to get to the Finals that postseason had a combined record of 118-128. No chance LeBron and the Lakers get that lucky anytime soon.