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    Default Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    Westbook
    Curry
    Wall
    CP3
    Lillard
    Irving
    Lowry
    Dragic
    Teague
    Conley

    ^All of the above are playing at an all star level.

    Then you got Parker, Rose and Rondo who are elite when healthy, Brandon Knight, Darren Collison, Eric Bledsoe, Kemba Walker, Aaron Brooks, Ty Lawson, etc.
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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    Irving should be in that bottom list, Ty Lawson should be in the top 10 instead of him

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

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    Starting PG's With at Least 15.0 PER


    [COLOR="White"]......[/COLOR]1997[COLOR="White"]..............................[/COLOR]2014

    Penny Hardaway................. Russell Westbrook
    Gary Payton....................... Chris Paul
    Jason Kidd......................... Tony Parker
    Tim Hardaway.................... John Wall
    Kevin Johnson.................... Steph Curry
    Allen Iverson...................... Monta Ellis
    Nick Van Exel..................... Kyrie Irving
    John Stockton.................... Rajon Rondo
    Sam Cassell....................... Goran Dragic
    Stephon Marbury................ Damian Lillard
    Terrell Brandon.................. Jeff Teague
    Damon Stoudamire............. Ty Lawson
    Mookie Blaylock.................. Kyle Lowry
    Rod Strickland.................... Deron Williams
    Kenny Anderson................. Eric Bledsoe
    Darrick Martin.................... Mike Conley
    Mark Price......................... Jrue Holiday
    Greg Anthony..................... Isiah Thomas
    David Wesley..................... Kemba Walker


    pretty close if you ask me - slight edge to 2014, which doesn't make up for the 2014 deficits at the SG, SF, PF, and C positions.

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    Quote Originally Posted by andremiller07
    Irving should be in that bottom list, Ty Lawson should be in the top 10 instead of him
    Irving haters are ridiculous.

    20/3/5 on 47% shooting, far more efficient than Lawson while being 4 years younger

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    At one point you had at the SG position:

    Kobe
    Wade
    Mcgrady
    Iverson
    Ray Allen
    Vince Carter
    Paul Pierce
    Michael Redd
    Ginobili
    Rip Hamilton
    Joe Johnson
    Jason Terry
    Jason Richardson

    Etc.

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    This is nothing but a semantic and technical occurence. The rule changes and lax defenses have made life indispensably easier for perimeter players, it's really much easier to acquire numbers and run the offense as opposed to yesteryear. Even looking at them play, these players are nothing but mostly jumpshooters, with most of them having questionable shot selection and floor general intelligence. These players are good for their particular time, but nowhere near hall of fame level or great in an all-time sense, w/ the exception of Paul (pre-injury), Rose (pre-injury) and maybe Parker. The jury's still out on Westbrook and Rondo.

    It's really quite silly to compare these players to all-time great PG's and HOFs, as it's truly hard to say that PG's today were ever as good as JoJo White, Earl Monroe, Tiny, Tim Hardaway, or even as transcendent talents like Anfernee and KJ. Again, great athletic talents, capable competitors, but only great for this weak era. The fact that Curry and Harden are MVP candidates is laughable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by noob cake
    Irving haters are ridiculous.

    20/3/5 on 47% shooting, far more efficient than Lawson while being 4 years younger
    Isaiah Thomas last year 20/3/6 as a 3rd option on 46% with no defense and little to no playmaking ability while playing against better opposition ....I guess he was top ten as well, even Mike James when 20 and 5 one year in Toronto.

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    The small forwards of the early to mid 80's. You had Bird, Doc, Nique, English, Dantley, Bernard King, Worthy, Marques Johnson on the first tier.

    Then you also had very good players like Vandeweghe, Jamaal Wilkes, Xavier McDaniel, Calvin Natt, Mark Aguirre, Walter Davis, Kelly Tripucka, Eddie Johnson etc.
    Last edited by Collie; 12-24-2014 at 07:42 PM.

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    Center in the early 70's

    KAJ
    Wilt
    Thurmond
    Reed
    Cowens
    Unseld
    Bellamy
    Hayes
    Lanier
    McAdoo
    E. Smith
    Gilmore (ABA)
    Daniels (ABA)
    Beaty (ABA)

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    Quote Originally Posted by andremiller07
    Irving should be in that bottom list, Ty Lawson should be in the top 10 instead of him
    Rent free.

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    90s centers

    Hakeem
    Ewing
    Robinson
    Shaq
    Zo
    Deke
    Smits

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    Is that list in order ?

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    Quote Originally Posted by Audio One
    This is nothing but a semantic and technical occurence. The rule changes and lax defenses have made life indispensably easier for perimeter players, it's really much easier to acquire numbers and run the offense as opposed to yesteryear. Even looking at them play, these players are nothing but mostly jumpshooters, with most of them having questionable shot selection and floor general intelligence. These players are good for their particular time, but nowhere near hall of fame level or great in an all-time sense, w/ the exception of Paul (pre-injury), Rose (pre-injury) and maybe Parker. The jury's still out on Westbrook and Rondo.

    It's really quite silly to compare these players to all-time great PG's and HOFs, as it's truly hard to say that PG's today were ever as good as JoJo White, Earl Monroe, Tiny, Tim Hardaway, or even as transcendent talents like Anfernee and KJ. Again, great athletic talents, capable competitors, but only great for this weak era. The fact that Curry and Harden are MVP candidates is laughable...
    Do you know what semantic means? Because I'm not sure that you do.

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    Quote Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
    Is that list in order ?
    Nope.

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    Default Re: Has any position ever been as deep as today's PG?

    How many of those are true floor generals? Game changed.

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