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Old 03-28-2014, 09:10 AM   #122
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Default Re: ☆ Lakers Open Court ☆

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Originally Posted by Lakers91
I don't disagree with that but I think it's a bit different because the big three had a few million paycut but because that was considered a discount compared to their last contracts because in a way they still had that market value, LeBron took what was it 16 million a year? He could have been offered 20-25 or so, it's a fair bit to take less but the market value would have justified teams paying far more, Kobe's market value isn't quite the same anymore, it's a pretty big paycut for someone like Kobe to take what was it this year 30 million down to if he were to accept it 10-15 but really had the Lakers let him hit open market then that's probably what he'd see he'd get anyway so it is a discount from his previous contract a big one but it's really just what his market value is (that's my take on that hopefully that's somewhat decent reasoning I just don't see it as much as a discount because really his market value is not what any of the big three could have got from other teams, not so much a discount in terms of market value just compared to his last contract which that amount isn't exactly justified now if you were to offer him a similar contract it's not worth it if you look at the risks and his market value if you let him be a FA)

Maybe the big three and other players has affected the view that players will take paycuts to win titles, maybe few players actually are like that maybe it's an idealistic view I have that players would take a few million or more less to help a team build a contender/have money to do so at the least, I'm not sure if this was kind of addressing my post as well or just DK's? But I certainly wouldn't be underestimating Kobe's intelligent, he seems from what I can see a pretty intelligent person, he's rather enigmatic and hard to read so I can't say for sure but his IQ I think would be above average 120 - 130 range probably he certainly isn't stupid, I can be a little idealistic and a pessimist but if I'm Kobe if I can be making 10 million about 6 I assume with taxes after all I've made having just made close to 60 million off my last contract I wouldn't be too annoyed I'd be happy to take less given I'm still making heaps from advertising outside of basketball knowing it's a big market and the Lakers if I take less (show I'm dedicated to building a contender>money) then they've probably got more chance than other teams due to still having a lot of cap space and an attractive market (sorry that was first person if I was Kobe/using my mindset haha)
First of all, let me just say again that I too wouldn’t pay Kobe more than 15 mil/year, maybe more if he’ll agree with a 1 yr contract.
But I truly believe too Kobe’s main priority is to feel valued and loved and that he wants to get paid top dollar from his past and future contributions to the team (including the tv deal).
We are all from the outside looking in and it’s my theory that over the years that Mitch has gained a lot of respect from Kobe. That he is also convinced that Kupchak can find ways to make this team competitive inspite of Kobe’s enomous contract.
Back in 2006, Kobe was heard on radio that he’ll rather play in Pluto than come back to the Lakers. When Buss tried to oblige to that trade request, demanded Luol Deng in return, Kobe said NO!, as in Kobe is not crazy to go to a team without legit stars. Kobe was also caught on video making fun of Bynum, saying he wanted him traded for the aging Kidd. Mitch didn’t and saw how Andrew developed and that same time drafted that very overweight and raw Marc Gasol,
Kupchak then managed to trade the very limited Kwame along with Marc for an allstar center in Pau. He also traded for Ariza and together with Kobe went to the finals in 2008 and 2009.
He then let Ariza go and acquire Metta who was very instrumental in their quest 2 years later. How many GMs actually can trade that much damaged Bynum for the best center in the league? If not for the self Proclaimed god/commissioner, Mitch could have flipped Marc to Pau into Chris Paul.
so when Kobe said "Its not my problem" I think he also meant that Mitch can figure things out
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