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Old 08-20-2013, 02:37 PM   #41
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Default Re: Kobe's deepest team myth 2008/09 & 2009/10

Originally Posted by rhythmic †hesis
Cleveland Cavaliers: 66-16
M. Williams, Ilgauskas, D. West & Varejao
51 PPG, 21.3 RPG, 9.6 APG, 48 FG%, 79 FT%, 31 MPG, 3.7 SPG, 2.4 BPG, 6 TO/G & 63.9 PER

Orlando Magic: 59-23
Lewis, Turkoglu, Nelson & Alston
63.2 PPG, 17.4 RPG, 18 APG, 44 FG%, 81 FT%, 33 MPG, 4.8 SPG, 1 BPG, 8.4 TO/G, 67.8 PER

Denver Nuggets: 54-28
Iverson, Billups, JR Smith & Nene
66.4 PPG, 17.2 RPG, 17.3 APG, 48 FG%, 78 FT%, 34 MPG, 4.4 SPG, 2 BPG, 9.3 TO/G, 69.6 PER

Portland Trail Blazers: 54-28
Aldridge, Outlaw, Blake & Fernandez
52.3 PPG, 16.8 RPG, 9.9 APG, 45 FG%, 80 FT%, 31 MPG, 3.5 SPG, 2 BPG, 5.4 TO/G & 64.1 PER

Utah Jazz: 48-34
Okur, Boozer, Brewer & Milsap
60.4 PPG, 30.4 RPG, 7.8 APG, 50 FG%, 73 FT%, 32 MPG, 4.6 SPG, 2.3 BPG, 7 TO/G & 69.4 PER

SA Spurs: 54-28
Parker, Ginobili, Mason & Gooden
59.1 PPG, 15.1 RPG, 12.8 APG, 47 FG%, 84 FT%, 27 MPG, 3.1 SPG, 0.8 BPG, 6.6 TO/G & 77 PER

Dallas Mavericks: 50-32
Terry, Howard, Kidd & Bass
55.1 PPG, 18.2 RPG, 14.2 APG, 46 FG%, 84 FT%, 30 MPG, 4.7 SPG, 2.1 BPG, 6.7 TO/G, 69.6 PER

LA Lakers: 65-17
Gasol, Bynum, Odom & Fisher
54.4 PPG, 28.1 RPG, 10.7 APG, 51 FG%, 74 FT%, 31 MPG, 3.2 SPG, 4.2 BPG, 6.3 TO/G, 70.9 PER

I didn't include Boston Celtics since they were injured in the playoffs.
So that's 8 contenders, lets see how the best 4 players Kobe had during his championship year & 65 win season compares to some of the other stars.

So Kobe's best four players led the group in FG% & BPG, they are also the only group that has 2 centers in the mix, so it is to be somewhat expected.

Points: 6th
Rebounds: 2nd
Assists: 5th
FG%: 1st
FT%: 7th
MPG: Tied for 4th highest
Steals: 7th
Blocks: 1st
TO/G: 3rd lowest
PER: 2nd

That year Tony Parker made 3rd team All-NBA (as well as the All-Star game), as well as Chauncey Billups. McGrady was pretty banged up; Delonte West is clearly not on Pau's level.

So it's safe to call Pau Gasol the 2nd best option, especially come playoff time. I have no problem with that.

But tell me this, why do some of you persist on calling LA by far the deepest team in the league? Bynum was a non-factor in 2008/09 playoffs either, so if I replaced Ariza with Bynum those numbers would go down and LA wouldn't be #1 in blocks or FG%.

Yet somehow other superstars don't have enough talent around them, only Kobe had all the help in the world.

By the way, 2009/10 numbers are even less in favour of the so called "Kobe has the deepest team" myth.

I'll assemble those numbers later, too lazy right now.

PS - I promise DMAV and a few other posters that I was having an argument with yesterday that I will post these numbers.
I thought "deep" means the whole team, not just the starting five. To say a team is deep, means their bench are also of quality.
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