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Old 05-05-2013, 08:52 PM   #430
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Default Re: Truth: LeBron James is already the greatest SF in NBA history

Originally Posted by DMAVS41
Lebron has not done enough yet. Sorry.

The 2nd best player ever does not get outplayed by Jason Terry in the biggest series of his life...on a historically stacked the heart of his prime.
If “done enough” is another way of saying “hasn’t had a championship team for long enough like all these other players we’re comparing him to”, then I agree with you. The argument is so ridiculous. If LeBron was drafted onto the 1980 Lakers or 1980 Celtics and in his rookie year or by his second season had a championship cast surrounding him, his career resume would currently be second only to Jordan – at age 28. If he was drafted onto a team with prime Shaq, he’d have 5 titles by now. Or if he played with the equivalent of a prime Penny, prime Kobe, or prime Wade for his entire career, he’d have more titles than Shaq as well.

Lebron has a long way to go in order to have everyone overlook that giant pile of shit staining his legacy.

If Lebron wins fmvp and another title this year. He will vault into that Kobe / Hakeem range as a player an no higher.

He has too much left to prove.
Not really. If that’s the case, we cannot overlook Magic, Kobe and Bird’s massive playoff chokes as well. Those are permanent stains on their legacies as well. When LeBron wins Finals MVP this year, he vaults to #2 all-time and second to only Jordan. Comparing him to Kobe and Hakeem is just idiotic. Hakeem with 2 titles (same as LeBron) and 3 less MVP’s? Kobe with 2 titles as top dog (though poor Finals showings) and 3 as second fiddle to Shaq and only 1 MVP? No, just no. LeBron basically accomplished what Wilt did at just age 28 – 4 MVP’s and 2 rings, except he was much more influential in his second ring than Wilt was in his 1972 title.

It would be one thing if he was awful in the finals early on in his career...oh wait, that happened in 07 when Duncan/Spurs swept him...LOL...but getting roasted like that in the heart of your prime with the most help in the league...playing a team with far less talent and without homecourt? Nah...can't just ignore that when ranking Lebron historically at this point.

Bringing up 2007 is actually an argument in favor of LeBron. No other player at age 22 has led such a pathetic trash team worth maybe 20 wins to the Finals. They shouldn’t have even gotten past the conference Finals. The Pistons were a far, far, far more talented team. You keep rehashing the same 2011 thing over and over again as if anyone cares. Again, if one Finals series has such an influence on a player’s legacy, then guys like Kobe, Bird, Kareem, Wilt and Magic are far greater chokers and should be bumped way down on everyone’s rankings.
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