Team building game 2013. Now with coaches and a prize that isnt worth your time.

[Kblaze8855]

Ive done this...5-6 times. Most recently in 2011. Always nice to see what ISH comes up with. Some of you have built 4-5 teams each time. Some dont give a damn...both are fine by me.


Changes....


You must make a 12 man roster with a head coach. So you have 13 selections to make. You could take all players tll group 6 and end up with a garbage coach who ruins everything. Or you could start with group 2 and get an all time great coach more likely to bring it together.Up to you....but hopefully this time we get a lot of diversity.You cant get say...Jordan with Phil though because starting with the top level drops you straight...to level 4.

Im making it harder to use the elites each tme just to be a dick.

Id like to stress.....not everyone is ranked by who I think is best...but mostly by who I think ISH would want. For example....I do not thik Reggie is as good as a #2. But some do...so I want to make him hard for them to get.Adrian Dantley didnt do much for me...some of you numbers addicts cant get over 30ppg on 55% shooting. Want him...use a #2 to get him.

Start with a group one you get:

1 from group 1
3 from group 4
4 from group 5
3 from group 6
2 from group 7


Start with group two you get

2 from group 2
1 from group 3
3 from group 4
3 from group 5
2 fom goup 6
2 from group 7

So say you get MJ...jump to 4...you could add Hubie Brown as coach, Iggy to be his Pippen, and Larry Nance. Or get 3 players and move to #5 to find a coach. But before its done...you must use a pick on a coach.


Who has the balls to still take a group one player?


And yes...I know someone is probably listed in two groups after many edits.....I do not give a damn.

Winner(as judged by me) gets an amazon gift card of a to be determined value by email. Might be 10....might be 20. Who knows.





Group 1.


No coach is worth a player on this level so they are not an option at #1


Jordan 87-93
Shaq 94-02
David Robinson(90-96)
Lebron(07-13)
Dirk(06-now)
Oscar robertson(peak)
Karl Malone(whatever you consider his prime)
Bill Walton(Healthy...76-78 form)
Moses Malone(79-83)
Kobe(03-10)
Elgin Baylor pre injury
Doctor J ABA-1981
Kg(prime)
Wilt 76ers
Charles barkley pirme
Russell 60-66
Bird 83-88
Magic 82-90
Kareem 70-80
Hakeem 88-95
Duncan prime
Jerry West prime
Wade 06-2012 healthy

Hard to rank a few of them as tier one...but I know some of you would rank them there.





2.

Coaches:

Red Auerbach
Greg Popovich
Phil Jackson
Pat Riley


Players


Ewing(89-94)
Pippen
Durant(now)
Mcgrady(orlando)
Kidd
Isiah Thomas(prime)
Stockton
Gervin
Rick barry
Kemp
Bernard King(prime...healthy)
Dave cowens
Carmelo
Bob Pettit
Artis gilmore
Alex english
Derrick Rose 11 and 12 healthy
Vince Carter(00-02)
Iverson(2000-2007)
Pierce(prime)
Nash(05-08 mvp..not really argued as the best)
Nate thurmond
Nique
Jerry Lucas
Drexler
Zo
Mchale
Dwight Howard
Adrian Dantley
Tim Hardaway
Grant Hill(95-2000)
Willis Reed
Elvin Hayes
Pau Gasol
Moncrief prime
Kevin Johnson
James worthy prime
Westbrook now
Tony Parker now
Brad Daugherty
Chris Paul
Pistol Pete
Ray Allen
Reggie Miller 90-2000
Bob Mcadoo
Yao Ming
Walt Frazier
Chris Mullin
Penny(94-98)
Wes unseld
Mark Price
Cousy
Connie Hawkins ABA/suns
Deron Williams
Payton
Webber
Parish


3.

Coaches:

Doc Rivers
Jerry Sloan
Don Nelson
Larry Brown
chuck Daly
Rick Carslile
Alex hannum
Lenny wilkins


Players


Brand Clippers
Blake(now)
Aldridge(now)
Boozer Jazz
Arenas(05-09)
Gus Williams
Jerry Stackhouse(2000-2003)
Terry Porter
Earl Monroe
Lenny Wilkens prime Hawks
Derrick Coleman Nets
Manu 05-2010
Chris Bosh 05-2010
Ralph Sampson pre injury Rockets
Dennis Johnson prime
Bob Lanier pistons
Marbury(Nets/suns)
Rondo 09-pre injury
Baron Davis(prime)
Mutombo Nuggets to Philly
Brandon Roy(healthy)
Jamal Mashburn prime
Rasheed(prime)
Vin Baker Bucks
Maurice Lucas prme
James Harden Now
Kyrie now
Sam Jones
Mcdyess(Nuggets)
Larry Johnson(Hornets)
Mark Aguirre Mavs
Dennis Rodman(91-96)
Finley Mavs pre 04
Cassell Nets/Bucks/Minnesota
Joe Johnson Hawks
Mark jackson Knicks/Clippers/Nuggets/Pacers
Mitch Richmond Kings
Dumars pre Hill
Glenn Robinson
Derek harper Mavs
Kevin Love 10-12 healthy
Tom chambers(suns before 92)
Sprewell Warriors and Knicks
Terry Cummings Bucks
Kevin Willis Hawks
David thompson Nuggets pre injury
Ben Wallace(first pistons run)
Jermaine Oneal(prime)
Glen Rice(Charlotte)
Marion(prime)
Al Jefferson
Zach Randolph(now)
Chauncey Billups(03-09)




4.


Coaches:

George Karl
Rick Adleman
Bill sharman
Mike Dantoni
Stan Vangundy
Avery Johnson
Tom Thibodeau
Billy cunningham
Mike Fratello
Hubie Brown
Rudy T
Jeff Van Gundy
Larry Bird
Scott brooks
Spo
Doug Collins



Players

Rudy Gay
Shawn elliot
Odom
Jrue Holiday
Rip Hamilton
Deng
Andre Iguodala
Jalen Rose(Pacers)
Michael Adams(Bullets/Nuggets)
Richard Jefferson
Cedric Ceballos
Vanexel
Calvin Murphy
Mo Cheeks
Brandon Roy healthy prime
Antione walker(prime)
Larry Nance
Antawn Jamison(warriors to Wizards)
Jeff Hornacek
Artest(pacers)
Dale Ellis Sonics
Kenny Anderson(nets)
Josh Smith
Danny Granger
Bynum healthy 2010-2012
Anthony Mason
Detlef
AK47(prime)
Alan Houston
Antawn Jamison
Danny Manning Clippers
Kukoc
Drazen Petrovic
Buck williams
Stephen Jackson prime
Bibby(kings)
Devin Harris(Nets)
Peja(kings)
John Starks
Andrew Toney
Stephon Curry now
Caron Butler(wizards)
Rod Strickland
Jason Richardson(Peak...warriors)
Rik smits
Norm Nixon
Tyson Chandler Mavs
Steve Francis
Shareef Abdur Rahim
Steve Smith
Juwan Howard
Bobby Jones(Nuggets/pre Moses 76ers)
David West
Marcus Camby(prime
Eddie Jones
Gerald wallace(Bobcats)
Vlade(prime)
Seikaly
Bogut
Brook Lopez
Paul George
Marc Gasol
Big Z
Joakim Noah
Jeff Ruland
al Horford
Dan Majerle
Jim Jackson(mavs)



5.

Coaches

Byon Scott
Lawrence Frank
Mike Brown
Mike dunleavy
Scott skiles
Nate Mcmillian
Eddie Jordan
Isiah Thomas
Del harris
Mike Woodson
Flip Saunders




PJ Brown(peak)
Doug Cristie
Hedo(first run with the Magic)
Beasley
Barbosa(suns)
Nate McMillan(sonics pre GP)
john Salmons(Bulls/bucks)
Mo williams(bucks/cavs)
Laphonso Ellis
Thurl bailey
Jason Terry(Mavs)
Paul Millsap
Ricky Pierce
Keith Vanhorn(nets)
Theo Ratliff
Kendall Gill(hornets/nets)
OJ Mayo Now
Darrell Armstrong
Raja Bell(Suns)
Horace grant
Jameer Nelson
Michael Redd
Bob Dandridge
Nene
Okur prime on Jazz
Mark Eaton
Dennis Scott
brian Grant(Blazers)
Emeka
Nick Anderson
Tyson Chandler(hornets to now)
Andre Miller(peak))
Isiah Rider Minnesota
Jamal Crawford
Horry(peak)
Larry Hughes(wizards/Cavs)
Richard Jefferson nets
Mookie blaylock
Cedric Maxwell
Raymond Felton
JR Smith



6

coaches

Vinny Delnegro
PJ carlesimo
Sam Mitchell
Frank Vogel
Terry Porter
Bickerstaff




Players

Bobby Jackson
Korver
Dell Curry
Delonte West
Lindsey Hunter
Kirk Hinrich
Taj Gibson
Channing Frye
Ricky Davis(Cavs and Celtics)
Gortat
Rick Fox
K.Perkins
Aaron Mckie
Jason Willaims(Kings/Memphis)
Cuttino Mobley
Ruben Patterson
Michael cooper
Bruce Bowen
Nate robinson
Steve Blake
Ibaka
Thabo
Diaw(Suns)
Calderon
Carl Landry
Chuck Hayes
Rafer alston
Derrick Fisher
Avery Johnson
Brad Miller Pacers/Kings
James Posey
Al harrington
Mario elie
Tayshaun Prince
Muggsy
Brent Barry
Desmond Mason
Anderson Varejao
Shane Battier
Drew Gooden(Magic/cavs)
Tim Thomas
tony Allen
Aaron Affalo
Chris dudley
Tree rollins
clarence Weatherspoon
Eric snow
Wali Jones
Ben Gordon
Asik
Tyrone Hill
George Lynch
Derek Anderson
Vernon Maxwell rockets
Mcgee


7.

coaches:


Charles Barkley
Kblaze8855
Skip Bayless
Gobb
Jay Leno

Players

Tyrus thomas
Hakim Warrick
Boobie Gibson
Jeff McInnis
Stromile swift
Darko
Smush Parker
chris childs
Mateen Cleaves
Tim Legler
Damon Jones
Tyron Lue(00-02)
Robin Lopez
Eddie House
Earl Watson
Craig Smith
Alvn Williams
Chucky Atkins
Mikki Moore
Larry Sanders
charlie ward
Ramon Sessions
Shawn Bradley
Kurt Rambis
Travis best
vonteego Cummings
Kwame Brown
Jason Kapono
Luke Walton(current)
Sean May(bocats)
Sun Yue
Manute Bol
Steve Novak
Danny Ferry
Mike James
Leon Powe
Anthony Parker
Ike Austin
Mo Pete
George Muresan
Keith Closs
Keon clark
Earl clark





Lets see how bored you are.

[Kblaze8855]

Sample team...not my final team which ill be bored enough tomorrow at work to make....

Starting with #2...

(2)Pop as coach
(2)Ewing as player
(3)Rondo
(4)Dale Ellis
(4)AK47
(4)Alan Houston
(5)Christie
(5)Darrell Armstrong
(5)Mark Eaton
(6)Dell Curry
(6)Battier
(7)Anthony Parker
(7)Chris Childs

Not as talented as it could be but with Pop coaching...its contending

Rondo/Darrell/Curry/Childs
Dale Ellis/Houston
Christie/Battier
Ak47/Battier
Ewing/Eaton

Not really a team id put against the star lineups sure to come but id like to see Pop run small ball with that lineup.

[chazzy]

Gonna make one later.. when are you picking a winner?

[Kblaze8855]

Um.....day the real playoffs start. Bit of a break after the season ends. I expect to be bored enough to read the topic start to finish and judge it fairly.

[ThaRegul8r]

I like team building exercises though I have a different philosophy on team building than most, so I'll most likely participate after I go through the available picks.

And I'm still going to build a team around at least one group 1 player anyway. During the last one that took place during the lockout, you said, "I doubt Magic, Bird, or Duncan even get taken. The only level 1s I see getting picked are Jordan, Hakeem, and Shaq," and I picked someone other than those three just to be original and because no one else would do it. Doing the same thing everyone else would do is boring. I'll have to see what the options are this time and think about it when I have time.

[Kblaze8855]

This tme ill say Doctor J is the not getting picked guy. And I had Drk is both 1 and 2 and couldnt decide....so I left him in #1 to make his fans make a tough call.

[Kblaze8855]

Durant is also hard. He doesnt feel like a tier 1...but hes so tempting as a #2. Durant and Phil Jackson to start? Or Durant and Ewing?

I might have to bump him up.......

[ThaRegul8r]

This tme ill say Doctor J is the not getting picked guy.

I agree, as no one's going to start with him over Jordan, Shaq, LeBron, etc.

I also had a question. One of my projects actually involves team building, and for some I have draft lists of players for roles I want to fill. Would it be possible to select players that are unlisted, but getting the ruling from you which group they would qualify for IYO, or is it just "these are your options, these are your choices?" I don't imagine anyone else would have any unlisted players in mind anyway, but I thought it couldn't hurt to ask, as the worst you could say is no.

[Kblaze8855]

suggest a player ill gve him a spot I feel is fair.

[NumberSix]

Bulls should amnesty rose

[ripthekik]

2
Durant
Chris Paul

3
Doc Rivers

4
David West
Luo Deng
Rip Hamilton

5
Milsap
Tyson Chandler
Mo Williams

6
Bruce Bowen
Bobby Jackson

7
Earl Clark
Mike James

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Coach: Larry Bird (4)

Steph Curry (4)/ Kirk Hinrich (6)
Doug Christie (5)/ Michael Cooper (6)
LeBron James (1)/ Hedo Turkoglu (5)/ Shane Battier (6)
Horace Grant (5)/ Earl Clark (7)
Marc Gasol (4)/ Larry Sanders (7)/ Tyson Chandler (5)

Earl Clark wouldn't play too much. Battier/LeBron/Turkoglu would play the 4 at times.

Just did one quickly. Might do another one later.

[daily]

I'm going to go with plan A.

1 from group 1
3 from group 4
4 from group 5
3 from group 6
2 from group 7



Coach: Jeff Van Gundy (4)


Shaq (1) Tyson Chandler, (Mavs (4))
Horace Grant (5) Kurt Rambis (7)

Tayshaun Prince (6) Shane Battier(6)
Horry (5) Hedo (5)

Korver (6) Michael Cooper(6) Eddie House (7)
Steve Francis (4) Andre miller (5)

[(e)]

Group 2: Patrick Ewing, Kevin Durant
Group 3: Kyrie Irving
Group 4: Tom Thibodeau, Paul George, Joakim Noah
Group 5: OJ Mayo, JR Smith, Richard Jefferson
Group 6: Ibaka, Kirk Hinrich
Group 7: Larry Sanders, Novak

Coach: Thibs
PG: Kyrie Irving
SG: Paul George
SF: Kevin Durant
PF: Joakim Noah
C: Patrick Ewing

Bench
G: OJ Mayo, JR Smith, Kirk Hinrich
F/C: Richard Jefferson, Steve Novak, Ibaka, Larry Sanders

[ThaRegul8r]

suggest a player ill gve him a spot I feel is fair.

I didn't wish to give anyone else any ideas or potentially tip my hand, but as your inbox is full, I can't ask privately.

Gus Williams
Nate McMillan (as a player)
Andrew Toney
Ricky Pierce
Cedric Maxwell
Carl Landry
Craig Smith
Leon Powe
Bobby Jones
Charles Oakley
Jeff Ruland
Thurl Bailey
Bob Dandridge

To name a few off the top of my head who weren't in the last one.