Originally Posted by Segatti
Lebron is better and had mediocre teams for most of his carrer unlike Kobe, I agree with this. But is plain stupid to say Kobe was just carried by Shaq for three rings. He was a unbelievable scorer and a tenacious defender, and without him no way Shaq would had a three peat. And to be fair, I'm not sure if Lebron or even Jordan would won a FMVP award with prime Shaq in their teams.
If to measure greatness by rings is stupid, to measure by FMVP's is either.
I didn't say he was carried, thats not the point and he was not. All I meant was that Kobe had a quality team with Shaq and got 3 rings out of it. He was lucky in that regard. If Lebron had prime Shaq at the firs years of his career he would also have had a bigger amount of rings before being the main man.
That's why I don't like Jordan's rings comment because it doesn't apply. If lets say Lebron also had prime Shaq on his team before he became the man and got 0 rings, then Jordan's reasoning could be applied.