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Old 09-20-2012, 01:57 PM   #35
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Default Re: Better Player: Scottie Pippen or John Havlicek?

Originally Posted by D.J.
In much more playing time. He had back to back seasons playing 45 MPG and had 5 straight seasons playing over 40 MPG. Pippen as a Bull never played in more than 38.6 MPG.

So he is going to be penalized for being an ironman? Pippen didn't play that many minutes, and his career was still shorter, shittier and without the same peak.

Of his generation, but Pippen is the best perimeter defender EVER.

I'm going to go ahead an say that Pippen was the better defender, but I to say he is the best ever is debatable.

No one was an option ahead of Mike. And who do you think was the #1 option when Mike left? Sure wasn't Horace Grant or B.J. Armstrong.

So why didn't he put up higher scoring numbers if he was so great as a number one option?

Multiple players on the '94 Bulls had career years with Pippen leading the way.

The fact that they were Jordan-less and played more like a team may have something to do with that.

Such a consistent shooter he shot less than 44% for his career and only 45-46% in his prime. Pippen shot 49% in '94 and never less than 46% until '98. He's also a career 47% shooter.

Different eras. Havlicek never had the benefit of playing with a 3 point line. Perimeter players FG% rose after the introduction of the 3 point line.

Again, we don't penalize Pippen because he played with Jordan. And we saw what he could do as the #1 option.

As a number 1 option, he is still far behind the kind of output we saw from Havlicek.
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