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kennethgriffin 10-14-2013 05:08 PM

the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
 


no other player in history has done it

the only other guy on his team that might make it will be as an international contributor

Pau Gasols individual nba accolades arent up to par

4 reserve allstar selections
1 third team all nba
2 second team all nba's
0-16 in the playoffs without kobe bryant

just as a comparison.. this is anfernee hardaways career

4 starting allstar selections
2 first team all nba's
1 third team all nba
9 playoff wins without shaq


now.. say anfernee hardaway lucked out 2 rings with the suns behind jason kidd.. even if he had 2 good years.. he still wouldnt be a hall of famer.

and making the hall of fame based on winning olympic silver medals or euro competition gold isnt exactly on the same level as an nba hall of famer. considering that if an american wins a silver medal or some second rate international gold. that wouldnt get them a hall of fame nomination. plus its allot easier to be the best player on a euro national team than it is on the US team

KyrieTheFuture 10-14-2013 05:11 PM

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Both Phil Jackson and pau gasol will be in the HOF. PJ doesn't get enough credit for some of his teams success. His player management is second to none.

ihoopallday 10-14-2013 05:13 PM

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So we're just going to ignore his hall of fame head coach? :no: That triangle offense is the reason LA was so successful.

ihoopallday 10-14-2013 05:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KyrieTheFuture
Both Phil Jackson and pau gasol will be in the HOF. PJ doesn't get enough credit for some of his teams success. His player management is second to none.


You beat me to it. Can't ignore Phil Jackson's impact on those championship runs

kennethgriffin 10-14-2013 05:16 PM

Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ihoopallday
So we're just going to ignore his hall of fame head coach? :no: That triangle offense is the reason LA was so successful.



umm.. i'm pretty sure hall of fame coaches dont count as team mates


yea sure he had hall of fame executives/owners/coaches... whatever

:lol

they dont put the ball in the hole though..


and its obvious i meant team mates..

HurricaneKid 10-14-2013 05:17 PM

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<-- Watches Pau led the Lakers in PER, WS, Postseason PER, Postseason WS, Finals WS in 2010.

<-- Watches Laker fans crush Pau.

<-- Watches D12 leave LA.

<-- UNDERSTANDS.

DMAVS41 10-14-2013 05:19 PM

Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer
 
False.

Pau Gasol will be in the hall of fame whether you like it or not?

aj1987 10-14-2013 05:19 PM

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Weren't the '09 and '10 Lakers the best rebounding teams in the NBA? I'm pretty sure that they had the best front court in the NBA as well.

kennethgriffin 10-14-2013 05:19 PM

Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneKid
<-- Watches Pau led the Lakers in PER, WS, Postseason PER, Postseason WS, Finals WS in 2010.

<-- Watches Laker fans crush Pau.

<-- Watches D12 leave LA.

<-- UNDERSTANDS.



like i said.. being good for a few years doesnt make pau or penny hall of famers


he was a soft playoff choker.. then in 2008 he joined kobe... had a good 2009 and 2010.. then fell off the face of the earth


thats a 2.5 year run as a boarderline hall of famer


GrapeApe 10-14-2013 05:20 PM

Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
 
Gasol will be in the HOF.

DMAVS41 10-14-2013 05:21 PM

Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aj1987
Weren't the '09 and '10 Lakers the best rebounding teams in the NBA? I'm pretty sure that they had the best front court in the NBA as well.


Inb4 Branslowski comes in to tell you that, for some reason, Gasol wasn't part of the front court.

kennethgriffin 10-14-2013 05:21 PM

Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMAVS41
False.

Pau Gasol will be in the hall of fame whether you like it or not?



yes. but it will be as an international contributer

like i said in the title.

"no other NBA hall of famer"


is pau making the hof based on his individual nba accolades of 2 third team awards?

hell no

:lol


its the naismith basketball hof... not the nba hof... remember that

TheReal Kendall 10-14-2013 05:23 PM

Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
 
Kobe the only player to win multiple championships while getting bailed out by scrubs.

DMAVS41 10-14-2013 05:24 PM

Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA HOF team mate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
yes. but it will be as an international contributer

like i said in the title.

"no other NBA hall of famer"


is pau making the hof based on his individual nba accolades of 2 third team awards?

hell no

:lol


its the naismith basketball hof... not the nba hof... remember that


There is only one basketball hall of fame. Therefore your claim is false.

And on NBA alone...it's very close. I bet he'd probably get in on NBA alone actually.

But this thread is so pointless. In 2011...Dirk won a title without anyone as good as Gasol. The hall of famer thing is just stupid of the hall of famer in question is well past his prime.

TheMarkMadsen 10-14-2013 05:25 PM

Re: the only man to win multiple championships without another NBA hall of famer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ihoopallday
So we're just going to ignore his hall of fame head coach? :no: That triangle offense is the reason LA was so successful.


The triangle was the reason for the success?

Must be why the Bulls took home titles in 94 & 95 and why LA took home the gold in 04, 05, 06..

You can run the best schemed offense in the world but you need elite players or a good combination of players with certain skill sets to get it done.

Lamar wasn't Close to being as good as Pippen, but took the role of a forward/guard distributor while Ariza took the role of lengthy perimeter defender.

The 09 Lakers were incredibly thin when you looked past their starting 5, the guard depth was inconsistent at best, the starting point guard was shooting at a low efficiency while being a liability on defense, and their 3rd best player wasn't consistently good enough to start.

And on top of all that the startin center played under 30 minutes per game and grabbed less than 5 boards per..

That "big 3" was Kobe/Gasol/Odom which is pretty weak compared to the more recent big 3s to win championships.


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