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[QUOTE]He'd love to pattern his game after what he saw out of Dwight Howard when the big man was a mainstay for the Orlando Magic. But not, as he laughed with the media, the disgruntled Howard that fans saw struggle last season as a member of the Los Angeles Lakers.
"Coming out there, being aggressive from the jump ball ... imitate how Dwight was in Orlando
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[QUOTE]Forward Jeremy Evans missed Friday's practice with a strain of his right rotator cuff. He will travel with the team but is doubtful for Sunday's preseason game at Oklahoma City. Guard Lester Hudson, battling a sprained left ankle, also sat out Friday's practice and will be a game-time decision Sunday. Rookie center Rudy Gobert also missed Friday's practice so he could go see a doctor about his sore left shoulder.[/QUOTE]
injuries piling up
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"He understands that we may grow him into [that role]," Corbin said. "I don
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The Utah Jazz have signed Derrick Favors to a multi-year contract extension. The 6-foot-10 forward-center averaged career highs with 9.4 points, 7.1 rebounds and 1.69 blocks in 77 games and eight starts last season. He had nine double-doubles. Bradenton.com
Steve Luhm: GM Dennis Lindsey on getting Favors' extension done: "We had a willing and motivated partner in Derrick and [his agent]." Twitter @sluhm
Steve Luhm: Derrick Favors thanks Miller family for his $49M extension. Thanks everybody else, too, including media. Clearly he is deliriously happy. Twitter @sluhm
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Aaron Falk: Jazz general manager Dennis Lindsey says talks are ongoing with Gordon Hayward, but wouldn't comment beyond that. Twitter @tribjazz
Aaron Falk: Derrick Favors called his new deal "a big relief." He didn't want any doubt in the back of his mind during the season. Twitter @tribjazz
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[QUOTE]"Sometimes players can be mistaken and think that a contract allotment like this gives them freedom," Jazz general manager Dennis Lindsey said. "As you guys all know, this comes with huge expectations."[/QUOTE]
Considering he hasn't really improved I'd be worried about this!
[QUOTE]Favors averaged 14.6 points and 11 rebounds per 36 minutes last season. In his eight starts, he averaged 10.1 points, 10.0 rebounds, 1.1 assists and 2.25 blocks in 27.3 minutes.
While Favors
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[QUOTE]Corbin has been pleased with his defense so far, but wants to see an improvement on the offense this week.
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Posted on October 20, 2013 by David Locke
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[QUOTE]Jazz played a much defensive game then they did the last few times out. In practice the other day they drilled rotations and more rotations and it was noticeably better in today
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[QUOTE]The True Cost of Signing Jamaal Tinsley. There have been rumblings that the Jazz are kicking the tires on re-signing Jamaal Tinsley:
Jamaal Tinsley's agent confirmed there's mutual interest between the point guard and Jazz, but added, "There's nothing going on right now."
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[QUOTE]Does Ian Clark's $200k Guarantee Make Him a Roster Lock? This summer after a stellar summer league performance, the Jazz inked Ian Clark to a two year minimum salary contract which reportedly contains a $200,000 guarantee for 2013-14. This sunk cost has many fans, including myself, speculating that this will likely lead to Clark making the final roster cuts. The logic being that since the team has already invested that $200,000, why not keep him around and make him earn it?
While the Jazz never release contract details, we can speculate on a few things and make some assumptions on how long Clark might be around. First off, due to the 2-year duration of the contract, we know that Clark did not agree to a standard training camp contract which requires an "Exhibit 9 - One-Season, Non-Guaranteed Training Camp Contract". It is also reasonable to speculate that Clark's reported $200,000 guarantee is for "Lack of Skill" (in addition to other guarantees like injury, death). This means that even if Clark is underperforming, the Jazz cannot simply waive him and avoid the $200,000 guaranteed obligation.
Accordingly, with a 172 day league calendar in 2013-14, Clark essentially earns $2,850 ($490,180/172=$2,849.88) for each day he is on the Jazz roster. This means the Jazz have essentially guaranteed his contract for the first 70 days of the season ($200,000/$2,850=70), or until January 6, 2014. Coincidentally enough, the leaguewide date when all NBA contracts guarantee for the remainder of the season is January 10, 2014, which date requires teams to waive any such players it wishes to not guarantee for the remainder of the season by January 7, 2014. Coincidence? I don't think so.
In sum Clark's summer league play bought him a roster spot until January 7th, at which time the Jazz can either choose to waive him without spending another penny, or guarantee the remainder of his rookie salary.[/QUOTE]
At this point it looks like he'll be cut come January.
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[QUOTE]Andre Miller a Jazzman? Yesterday Yahoo! NBA reporter Mark Spears joined ESPN 700's Bill Riley to discuss NBA and Jazz basketball. I was unable to catch that interview myself, but this little nugget came across my timeline:
.@SpearsNBAYahoo really likes the idea of bringing Andre Miller to Utah. Says Denver would gladly take on some expiring contracts from Utah
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[QUOTE]Ice packs on both knees protruded from under Richard Jefferson
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[QUOTE]Jazz guard Lester Hudson missed a day of practice earlier this week with an ankle sprain but saw some significant minutes against the Thunder.
He played almost 13 minutes and scored four points as he continues his bid to make the Utah roster.
Hudson said his ankle injury, though, is no longer an issue. His biggest concern was missing a day of practice, which he feared could set him back.
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Classic Biendrins. 1 rebound and 6 fouls.
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Yeah hope he made them count!
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Jody Genessy: Jazz forward Richard Jefferson laughed when asked if it's hard to stay positive and optimistic during rough offensive times: "Not a chance."
Twitter @DJJazzyJody
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The Utah Jazz continue to express interest in free agent Jamaal Tinsley, per sources. Trey Burke's injury opened the door for him to return.
Twitter @AlexKennedyNBA
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[QUOTE]Posted on October 23, 2013 by David Locke
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Jazz were +2 tonight with players that will be on the roster when the season starts.[/QUOTE]
But the Lakers suck too!
[QUOTE]In the first quarter the starters (Lucas, Jefferson, Hayward, Favors and Kanter) lead 11-7 in 6:00 of action. Strong they would have only allowed 14 points in the first quarter at that pace. Then in the 2nd quarter (Lucas, Jefferson,Hayward,Burks and Kanter or Favors) played for 3:00 minutes and were outscored 8-7. Then to start the third quarter the starters played 6:40 and were outscored 13-12. Again a pretty good though not great defensive stretch. Overall the group outscored the Lakers 30-26.
Favors is going to be the leading rebounder in the NBA or top 3 behind Dwight Howard and Love. But he is going to be in the elite rebounders in the NBA..[/QUOTE]
Per 36 minutes? He's going to have to prove he can stay on the floor first.
[QUOTE]My highlight of the night was two great passes from Favors to Burks.
Burks played a much more patient game tonight. However, every time he goes away from the pick he is breaking the offense and playing 1 on 1 with no outlet inside of the offense. These plays are very rarely developing into anything productive for the offense. According to Zach Lowe Burks goes away from the pick at a higher rate than any guard in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
Got to think he's improved on that since he was a rookie though.
[QUOTE]I have always admired the Jazz organization for giving every player that comes to camp a fair shot at showing their skills. If you come to camp and work the Jazz always give players an opportunity to play and show their skills to the entire league. Tonight the Jazz did the same, unfortunately for some of those players their flaws showed more brightly than their strengths.
Kanter needs to reassert himself on the glass.
Hayward did not make an outside shot tonight. He is not getting looks on the right side of the floor where he is most successful. No one else on the team can create and distribute. This is going to make it tough on Gordon to get looks he can bury.
See you tomorrow.
Posted in Emptying the Noggin[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE]Jody Genessy: Former Laker Brian Cook after scoring 18 for Jazz: "I
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Props!!!
Best fan ever right here!
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[url]http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/57036569-87/jazz-utah-deal-guard.html.csp[/url]
Tinsley signed. Good to see, he might actually be able to keep the offense moving when he's in.
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Wonder if it's guaranteed for the year? Machado looked pretty good today. Can't shoot.
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[QUOTE]A guy who was momentarily left behind after shootaround in the morning started things off for the Jazz.
Good thing the bus returned a moment after it became evident the Jazz
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[QUOTE]Both Derrick Favors and Gordon Hayward received votes for players most likely to have a breakout season. Favors tied Indiana
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[quote]General manager Dennis Lindsey said Favors represents the future of post defenders.
"The way the NBA is going, the bigs have to be mobile enough to cover in pick and roll, but they have to be big enough to deny a spot and hopefully have enough length and lift to block a shot," Lindsey said. "Does that describe who we have? I think it does."
And where Favors
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The Jazz are carrying 19 players right now but will have to cut that down to at least 15 before the end of the month. Cook made it all the way to Oct. 31 last year with the Wizards before being waived.
"I'm just trying to stay even keeled right now and show that I can still play at 32," he said.
It's a little unusual for the Jazz to still be carrying so many players at this point in the preseason. But the Jazz are dealing with injuries and are still working to figure out a young team.
Coach Ty Corbin said there are positions still up for grabs.
"As a player, if I'm still in a place I always think there's time to impress or hurt what I've built up," he said Wednesday morning at shootaround. "So guys have to stay focused on playing and playing effectively for us because we do have spots."
Cook, who had previously had a preseason high of 5 points, said the extra minutes he got Wednesday helped him find a rhythm and not worry about missing shots. He fired up nine 3-pointers, hitting three of them over 20 minutes last night.
The Jazz have used big men with range in the past and Cook sees a fit in Utah.
"This is a great offense for that," he said. "They runt he splits on the offensive end and we've got good guards that take a lot of attention away.
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Posted on October 24, 2013 by David Locke
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[QUOTE]Strong performance from the Jazz tonight. No surprise this team didn
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[QUOTE]All seven guys have had occasions of very good play, but no one has come out to set themselves apart from the competition. In past years, when fringe guys have stuck, they made the overwhelming case to stay (think Wesley Matthews). Given the injuries to Burke, Brandon Rush and Marvin Williams, there seems to be a need for another point guard, a swingman, and a big. Harris and Holiday will most likely be given their walking papers soon. Chances are Clark will nab that swingman spot. [/QUOTE]
A swingman that can't playe the 3. I'd think McGuire or Holiday will make it at least until Marvin is back.
[QUOTE]So that leaves McGuire and Cook dueling for the big vacancy[/QUOTE]
McGuire is a big? He's a big guard yes.
[QUOTE]and Hudson and Machado for the third PG role. [/QUOTE]
Now Tinsley apparently.
[QUOTE]If Utah was to go solely off who is here, the case could be made for each of them.
Another avenue could be to watch the waiver wire to see who becomes available. There are some intriguing names that have been jettisoned: center Fab Melo; forwards Brandon Davies, Renaldo Balkman, Devin Ebanks, James Johnson, Corey Maggette, Jarvis Varnado, and Marcus Cousin; and guards Myck Kabongo and Darius Johnson-Odom. Others will be turned loose soon. Perhaps some of these guys may be better fits for Utah. Davies, a former Brigham Young University forward, was someone the Jazz liked during Draft workouts. Johnson is a former first-rounder who was linked to Utah in some September rumors. Kabongo was rated very high a year ago, but ended up going undrafted. He has potential as a nice back-up PG in the NBA.
The Jazz have also been connected to Chicago Bulls guard Marquis Teague and last year
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[url]http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27353287&nid=304&title=it-is-time-to-talk-about-jimmer-again[/url]
[QUOTE]Jimmer Fredette played at BYU and now plays for the Sacramento Kings. In his first two seasons he hasn't played a lot and there have been multiple rumors about a return to the state where he made his name.
Once again, the stars have aligned with supply and demand such that this requires at least a discussion. The injury to Trey Burke creates the need, and the Kings' surplus at guard is the supply.
ESPN Insider's Joe Kaiser talked about Fredette's value and called the Jazz “the perfect trade partner.”
Ticket Sales
The Jazz want to sell tickets. Jimmer's addition wouldn't be the biggest splash ever, but it would give some fans incentive to buy. When the Jazz played the Kings the last two years fans packed EnergySolutions Arena. The first Jimmer game sold out at 19,911. The next two games had 18,000 and more than 17,000.
The Kings were terrible.
In the Oklahoma City Thunder's two trips to Salt Lake the Jazz drew just over 19,000 and more than 18,000. Even Deron Williams coming back with a good Brooklyn Nets team only sold 18,500 seats or so.
The Jazz wouldn't sell 18,000 every game just because of the "Jimmer effect," but an extra 500 to 1,000 per game to see the local icon isn't out of the realm of possibility. That could be a lot of money over the course of 41 games.
The Jazz wouldn't sell 18,000 every game just because of the “Jimmer effect,” but an extra 500 to 1,000 per game to see the local icon isn't out of the realm of possibility. That could be a lot of money over the course of 41 games.
Not to mention, there would also be a lot of jerseys sold. The Fredette jerseys were all over at Kings games, and new jerseys with the local fans would create a lot of sales.
Of course, if the Jazz bring Fredette in, it would be about his play, not just his name.
His role
Exactly how Fredette would be used is a big question for the fans. Fredette won't be the starting point guard with Burke as the future at the position.
His role wouldn't be what he did at BYU, but what the NBA requires of him — scoring. Put Fredette in the second unit with Alec Burks and let them score.
Burks would be the go-to player in the second unit, but Fredette could add scoring to a unit that lacks scorers. Even last year, the second unit had Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter and occasionally Gordon Hayward and they had a hard time scoring.
Burks and Fredette are playing back-ups. Burks can handle the ball and let Fredette shoot when teams collapse defensively, or just let Fredette go and prove whether he can still do his Jimmer thing.
Kaiser wrote, “Fredette would not only be a big box office draw in Utah, where he took the nation by storm at BYU, he'd also have the opportunity to play a huge role on a Jazz team that is currently very thin at both guard spots, especially while Trey Burke is out with the broken finger.”
Is Fredette better than John Lucas III or Lester Husdon?
Should the Jazz trade for Jimmer Fredette?
1. Yes already
2. No, he'll never play
3. Seriously, stop asking!
4. Jimmer who?
In a preseason game against the Suns last week Jimmer had 23 points on 9-of-15 shooting going 5-of-7 from 3-point range.
Fredette would have to prove that he can become consistent, not great.[/QUOTE]
Could possibly start Burks if you had Jimmer. I think he could be better than Lucas and Hudson for sure. He's got 6th man written all over him. He could make a lot of sense.
[QUOTE]His defensive issues
It's no secret Fredette can't play defense. He could be one of the worst defenders in the league, but he isn't guarding the top players.
Maybe Brandon Rush, Marvin Williams and Rudy Gobert play with Fredette and Burks to stop the bleeding on defense a little. Williams is an underrated defender and Gobert's length is amazing.
Rush is a good defender and Burks has the athletic tools to stop any backup. Can the Jazz hide Fredette to make it worthwhile?
Maybe a change of venue could help his defense. Chances are he will still be a liability, even if he improves a lot.
There is no quick fix or way to make Fredette look like a good defender. It is about the risk and reward.
The mania
The other big issue is the “Tim Tebow effect.” Will the crowd overreact because Jimmer is back, both with cheers and boos? Tebow, the religious NFL quarterback, was so polarizing that the only way the Denver Broncos could get rid of him without a riot was to acquire one of the greatest of all time in Peyton Manning. Of course, it wasn't the only reason the Broncos got Manning.
While this is the same reason tickets would be sold, it can't influence playing time and needs to keep the team together. The reason it could work is that the crowd is already getting what they want with the “Core 4.”
Will fans clamor for Fredette to get playing time when Burke, Burks, Hayward, Favors and Kanter are in play? Most of last season the fans were hoping for those guys to play.
Fredette would still be the odd-man-out. When the game is on the line he would be on the bench, but he'd be getting a lot more playing time than the Kings are giving him. If he gets to play meaningful minutes, but doesn't take away from the time those five get, it will appease all fans.
Why do the Jazz trade for Jimmer?
First off they need another body until Burke gets healthy. Fredette can play two positions, but his defensive problems exist at both. The Jazz need his greatest asset at either position.
He will sell tickets and jerseys, which the Jazz front office would love. He won't add much to the win total, so if the Jazz are trying to get a high draft pick he won't detract from those goals.
This season is about evaluating players for the Jazz, and Fredette could be evaluated just like the rest. He is in the last year of his contract (there is a team option next year), and so he won't hurt the team's coveted cap flexibility.
Maybe Fredette becomes the next Steve Kerr. That name doesn't sound to glamorous, but Kerr was a specialist who hit shots for championship teams.
Why not?
Well, it still depends on how much it costs. If the Kings wanted a first-round pick for Fredette, which seems like a Kings thing to do, the Jazz should laugh and walk away. If the Jazz can throw a future second-round pick to the Kings and maybe a player to make dollars work, it is very cheap for a lottery pick from two years ago.
He is in the last year of his deal so the Jazz could just wait for him to hit free agency and scoop him up.
Fredette is bound to bring some sort of circus. When he played in Utah fans would cheer and boo every time he would touch the ball.
There could be no upside as well. If the Jazz believe he is what his numbers show, there is no reason to bring him over. His player efficiency rating is less than average.
All in, it seems like a low-risk gamble that could help a team with a healing point guard. Kaiser said it pretty well with this, “It's safe to say, though, that many NBA enthusiasts would enjoy seeing what Fredette could do in extended minutes a lot more than receiving DNP-CDs at the end of the Kings' bench.”
Really, it would be fun to see, if Fredette can become Jimmer in Utah, again.[/QUOTE]
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I'm sure the Kings would be more than willing to trade Jimmer, but they'd probably try and make the Jazz take back John Salmons or Jason Thompson in return for a Williams or Jefferson expirer.
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[QUOTE=El Kabong]I'm sure the Kings would be more than willing to trade Jimmer, but they'd probably try and make the Jazz take back John Salmons or Jason Thompson in return for a Williams or Jefferson expirer.[/QUOTE]
Jazz would probably take Patterson, Isiah, and/or Vasquez who are expirers. Unless others have a team option or partial guarantee or something I doubt the Jazz would want to take anyone else. All those guys fit under the cap space without sending anyone in return. Looks like they still have 17 guys in camp so they might want to do something just to create roster space and cap room which the Jazz have to spare still. The Kings do need a SF too.
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Point guard John Lucas III admitted it wasn
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LATE DUCK: Rudy Gobert had his best pro game against the Clippers, blocking five shots and snagging 12 rebounds. Of course, the 7-foot-1 center also had one of his shots blocked and, well, there was a play in which he graciously got out of Blake Griffin