0-16 in the playoffs without Kobe.
Is that a top 50 player?
:no:
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0-16 in the playoffs without Kobe.
Is that a top 50 player?
:no:
[QUOTE=Magic 32]0-16 in the playoffs without Kobe.
Is that a top 50 player?
:no:[/QUOTE]
I suppose it's better to miss the playoffs like Kobe did without pau?
I jest of course...but you are the master of cherry picking irrelevant stats and using them to prop Kobe.
[QUOTE=Unbiased_one]I suppose it's better to miss the playoffs like Kobe did without pau?
I jest of course...but you are the master of cherry picking irrelevant stats and using them to prop Kobe.[/QUOTE]
0-16 is irrelevant?
[QUOTE=Electric Slide]Guy led the Lakers to a title in 2010 and was then robbed of Finals MVP. His skillset and talent is amazing. He is probably the most underrated player of all-time.[/QUOTE]
This seems so agenda based.
I will agree that Pau Gasol is a top 50 player of all-teim though.
I like the stupidity and oversimplification implied when people go about comparing players in different teams and their playoff run history.
As if there weren't a thousand more variables.
Simply put, you all imply that Memphis and Lakers are the same team. They're not. The time Gasol was in Memphis getting into playoffs was already a triumph whilst a widely considered top10 player of all time like Kobe Bryant is expected to carry any kind of scrub to playoffs, and yet he didn't even manage to do so one year.
And yes, Pau was MVP in those finals, but the marketing machine gave it to Kobe to resurrect the Lakers franchise, one of the most powerful teams to merchandise the NBA internationally.
[QUOTE=Cali Syndicate]Pau has never had that just solid playoff type team. Ever prior to the Lakers. Those Grizzlies rosters were always ran that mediocre brand, just enough to win some games and make a playoff push but never really good enough.
Then look at his opponents. The [URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2004.html"]04 Spurs[/URL], the [URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHO/2005.html"]05 Suns[/URL] and and [URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DAL/2006.html"]06 Mavs. [/URL]
So basically, Peak Duncan and company, peak Nash and pre-injury beast Amare, and a very good all-around Mavs team led by a very good prime Dirk Nowitzki.
Yeah......no.[/QUOTE]
Gasol had Dwight and Nash this year and got swept by the spurs
:roll:
[QUOTE=STATUTORY]Gasol had Dwight and Nash this year and got swept by the spurs
:roll:[/QUOTE]
And Kobe had all 3 of them this year and they won the last two games of the season without him just to get into the playoffs...do you realise how stupid your post was?
[QUOTE=Unbiased_one]And Kobe had all 3 of them this year and they won the last two games of the season without him just to get into the playoffs...do you realise how stupid your post was?[/QUOTE]
they were 26-12 the last 38 games with kobe after dwight stopped sabotaging the team with his lackluster play, after nash returned and acclimated himself to the game, after gasol started playing.
Kobe did not have ALL 3 of them this year for majority of the game.
[QUOTE=Unbiased_one]they won the last two games of the season without him just to get into the playoffs[/QUOTE]
oh wow. Amazing!
[QUOTE=SpanishACB]I like the stupidity and oversimplification implied when people go about comparing players in different teams and their playoff run history.
As if there weren't a thousand more variables.
Simply put, you all imply that Memphis and Lakers are the same team. They're not. The time Gasol was in Memphis getting into playoffs was already a triumph whilst a widely considered top10 player of all time like Kobe Bryant is expected to carry any kind of scrub to playoffs, and yet he didn't even manage to do so one year.
And yes, Pau was MVP in those finals, but the marketing machine gave it to Kobe to resurrect the Lakers franchise, one of the most powerful teams to merchandise the NBA internationally.[/QUOTE]
pau was never mvp.
[QUOTE=SpanishACB]
And yes, Pau was MVP in those finals, but the marketing machine gave it to Kobe to resurrect the Lakers franchise, one of the most powerful teams to merchandise the NBA internationally.[/QUOTE]
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Try again...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkSKZcUksnI[/url]
Replace Timmy with Duncan on the Spurs during both their careers and the Spurs win those same titles. Kobe was a cancer that caused Shaq to leave. That's pretty bad.....
[QUOTE=Straight_Ballin]Replace Timmy with Duncan on the Spurs during both their careers and the Spurs win those same titles. Kobe was a cancer that caused Shaq to leave. That's pretty bad.....[/QUOTE] Shaq left because he was jealous of how great kobe became.
[QUOTE=Jacks3][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MFXIu.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=Magic 32]oh wow. Amazing![/QUOTE]
I'm not saying it's amazing. If you expect them to take a playof game against the spurs without Kobe, then there is no excuse for barely being able to break .500 with him.