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I<3NBA 04-09-2013 04:14 AM

Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
in Cleveland?

he is clearly better than Lebron James in the "willpower" department. so i'm assuming he could've just "willed" that team to a championship.

RoundMoundOfReb 04-09-2013 04:16 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
Original thread idea.

The Playmaker 04-09-2013 04:16 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
there isn't a single player in nba history that could have won with cleveland.

jcsrplumply 04-09-2013 04:17 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
Here we go again.

I<3NBA 04-09-2013 04:20 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Playmaker
there isn't a single player in nba history that could have won with cleveland.

i think MJ could have won with that team. the original is better than the copy.

kennethgriffin 04-09-2013 04:31 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
kobe won a title with top 90-100 all time ranked pau gasoft as his 2nd best player in 2009

and no other player on the team had ever made an allstar team

prime kobe was alpha as f*CK

so to answer op... yes

retaxis 04-09-2013 04:39 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
Kobe is a great player but comparing Lebrons 06 team to the best NBA front line that Kobe won with in Gasol-Odom-Bynum is not really comparable. Kobe can win but not without a hell of a lot of BIG MAN help.

Boomerang 04-09-2013 04:41 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
Current Lebron would take old Cavs team to championship.

miller-time 04-09-2013 04:41 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
kobe won a title with top 90-100 all time ranked pau gasoft as his 2nd best player in 2009

and no other player on the team had ever made an allstar team

prime kobe was alpha as f*CK

so to answer op... yes


And what 90-100 all time player did the Cavs have? Their second best scorer was Larry Hughes.

Kobe had

Pau > Gooden
Bynum > Ilgauskas
Odom > Pavlovic

Lakers without Kobe were way higher than Cavs without LeBron.

kennethgriffin 04-09-2013 04:47 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by retaxis
Kobe is a great player but comparing Lebrons 06 team to the best NBA front line that Kobe won with in Gasol-Odom-Bynum is not really comparable. Kobe can win but not without a hell of a lot of BIG MAN help.





Königspinguin 04-09-2013 04:49 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
He wouldn't get them out of the first round. Lebron is just a better player than Kobe.

retaxis 04-09-2013 04:50 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
Ken you know as well as I do Gasol - Odom (sixth man of the year) - Bynum (defence big body) was the best frontline in the NBA those years not to take anything from Kobe.

kennethgriffin 04-09-2013 04:55 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Königspinguin
He wouldn't get them out of the first round. Lebron is just a better player than Kobe.


now? sure... all time? no... during the playoffs when the cavs were a 60 win team? no...

kobe was much more capable than lebron at the time for leading teams to championships

lebron was still in diapers learning how and when to do things. and figuring out how to play in 4th quarters.


fact is.. kobe won a title with the 3rd or 4th worst championship 2nd option in nba history

only hakeem and walton had lower ranked kick stands


bynum sat the 4th quarters and only averaged 6-8 points..

odom never made an allstar team


everyone else after that was pretty average



lebron needed 2 hall of famers in their prime just to win 1 asterisk title



:lol

KOBE143 04-09-2013 04:57 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
Kobe won b2b with Gasoft, Odumb, No knees Bynum and Fisher the worst starting pg of all time as his best teammates, so YES..

6 for 24 04-09-2013 05:02 AM

Re: Do you think Kobe could've won a championship
 
My InsideHoops brothers & sisters:

This is a wonderful discussion! Now here in Mozambique, we did not receive the NBA broadcasts during the time you refer to, but I can only assume this Cleveland team was horrible, yes? So the question is, can the great Kobe Bryant take a horrible team to the championship trophy?

I am no expert on the basketball, but, from the many hours I have watched Kobe Bryant, I would say yes, emphatically! I believe, so long as there are players that are willing to give Kobe the ball, the ball will find its way to the cylinder, awarding the points necessary to be victorious.

For example, let us look at this season. Again, it is difficult for me to follow the broadcasts due to the inclement weather and the lions, but from my understanding, Kobe has quite horrible teammates this year. And yet it seems his team is again the favorites to win the championship title! This is quite remarkable!

So, yes, yes, one thousand times yes!

Warmest regards,

Ayotunde Ndiaye


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