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HardwoodLegend 03-16-2013 06:29 PM

Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
Both scoring sensations. Both are 2-time All-NBA 1st teamers in back-to-back years. Both had their careers marred by injury.

Only Bernard King will make the HOF though.

So, will that make T-Mac the 1st 2-time All-NBA 1st teamer in history not to make the HOF?




HardwoodLegend 03-16-2013 06:32 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 

L.Kizzle 03-16-2013 06:34 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
T-Mac has a shot at the hall. Both Twice All-NBA, but King All-Star only 4 times, but did make the second round once I believe. Even then, he has less playoff appearances than McGrady.

Legends66NBA7 03-16-2013 06:38 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
Nah, both King and McGrady will make the HOF.

Rameek 03-16-2013 07:46 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
BK was the original Carmelo Anthony. Unguardable!

Trentknicks 03-16-2013 09:10 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
T-Mac has a shot at the hall. Both Twice All-NBA, but King All-Star only 4 times, but did make the second round once I believe. Even then, he has less playoff appearances than McGrady.

Bernard King took Larry Birds Celtics to game 7 in the ECSF and collectively shat on them with multiple 40 point games in that series and that playoff run. Dude got under rated because his injury cut him short. Taking Boston to 7 games in ECSF isn't something to sneeze at, especially as he had literally no help. Obviously had less playoff appearances that T Mac because of his injury.

EDIT: In the first round against Detriot, which they won in 5 games (3-2), BK had four 40 point games and 36 in the other.

NLZ 03-16-2013 09:14 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
7 NBA All-Star (20012007)
NBA Most Improved Player (2001)
2 NBA scoring champion (20032004)
2 All-NBA First Team (20022003)
3 All-NBA Second Team (2001, 2004, 2007)
2 All-NBA Third Team (2005, 2008)


99.9% probability of making HoF

HardwoodLegend 03-17-2013 01:47 AM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
Leader of 21-game winning streak in 2007 (nullified his 19-game losing streak he got blasted for in 2004)
13 in 35 seconds

L.Kizzle 03-17-2013 02:19 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trentknicks
Bernard King took Larry Birds Celtics to game 7 in the ECSF and collectively shat on them with multiple 40 point games in that series and that playoff run. Dude got under rated because his injury cut him short. Taking Boston to 7 games in ECSF isn't something to sneeze at, especially as he had literally no help. Obviously had less playoff appearances that T Mac because of his injury.

EDIT: In the first round against Detriot, which they won in 5 games (3-2), BK had four 40 point games and 36 in the other.

McGrady took the future NBA Champs Pistons to 7 games in 2003. Took Dirk-led Mavs to 7 games in 2005.

L.Kizzle 03-17-2013 02:20 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HardwoodLegend
Leader of 21-game winning streak in 2007 (nullified his 19-game losing streak he got blasted for in 2004)
13 in 35 seconds

It was actually 22 games in a row.

WillC 03-17-2013 02:36 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HardwoodLegend
So, will that make T-Mac the 1st 2-time All-NBA 1st teamer in history not to make the HOF?


No.

Spencer Haywood: 2-time All-NBA 1st Team. Not in the HOF.

Paul Westphal: 3-time All-NBA 1st Team. Not in the HOF.

Penny Hardaway: 2-time All-NBA 1st Team. Not in the HOF.

Alex Groza: 2-time All-NBA 1st Team. Not in the HOF.

LBJFTW 03-17-2013 06:10 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
Will T-Mac make the HOF? Ask pop and Bowen how his shit tasted after he dropped 13 points in 33 seconds and you may get closer to the answer to that question.

D.J. 03-17-2013 06:24 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
McGrady dominated from 2001-2008. That's an 8 season sample and he dominated for longer than Mullin did. He's likely not a first ballot HOF'er, but he will get in.

Shepseskaf 03-17-2013 06:39 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trentknicks
Bernard King took Larry Birds Celtics to game 7 in the ECSF and collectively shat on them with multiple 40 point games in that series and that playoff run. Dude got under rated because his injury cut him short. Taking Boston to 7 games in ECSF isn't something to sneeze at, especially as he had literally no help. Obviously had less playoff appearances that T Mac because of his injury.

For a kid growing up a Knicks fan in NY, I can't adequately express how the Boston series played out in the city. It was the only news in town.

Bernard was beyond explosive. He was simply unstoppable. The local tension was even higher because everyone hated Boston, and never thought the Knicks would put up such a fight.

It got even higher when Cornbread Maxwell got on Boston radio and said something to the effect that "the b*tch ain't scoring 40 on us", referring to Bernard. Of course, BK went on to do just that.

It was the most amazing offensive performance in a series that I've ever personally seen. Considering the opponent, take a look at the Knicks roster then, and figure out how much heavy offensive lifting Bernard had to do:

Bill Cartwright
Ray Williams
Rory Sparrow
Truck Robinson
Louis Orr
Darrell Walker
Trent Tucker
Ernie Grunfeld
Marvin Webster
Len Elmore
Eric Fernsten
Rudy Macklin

Just an amazing, magical performance. McGrady might have longevity on his side, but he can't match the sustained excellence Bernard achieved that year in the playoffs.

Incidentally, BK finished second to Bird in the MVP voting, and actually won the Sporting News MVP.

Legends66NBA7 03-17-2013 06:41 PM

Re: Bernard King & Tracy McGrady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shepseskaf
It got even higher when Cornbread Maxwell got on Boston radio and said something to the effect that "the b*tch ain't scoring 40 on us", referring to Bernard. Of course, BK went on to do just that.


:applause:

Maxwell was a prick on and off the court. Glad King did his thing in that series and at least shut him up for the 40 point quote.


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