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RobertdeMeijer 02-15-2013 02:46 PM

Players who have played for less (to win)
 
I was just reminded how Earvin "Magic" Johnson lowered his contract salary, an estimate of 100k to 250k, so that the Lakers could sign Terry Teagle for the 1991 season (because of the salary cap).

Now I'm wondering which other players have done similar things. I suppose LeBron James. Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh also count for not taking max salary contracts.

Nash 02-15-2013 03:02 PM

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Kobe Bryant, just kidding, he likes to eat the whole thing up.

NoGunzJustSkillz 02-15-2013 03:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash
Kobe Bryant, just kidding, he likes to eat the whole thing up.

if kobe lowered his contract, what good would it do?

kshutts1 02-15-2013 03:13 PM

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Difficult, if not impossible, to do this in the NBA.

Unless I'm wrong, players can't renegotiate their contracts until a designated time.

That means that a player would have to take less money from the get-go (aka: without knowing the full makeup of the team after signings, etc) in order to make this possible. And frankly, I can't fault players for not taking millions less just based on a possibility.

If players are allowed to renegotiate contracts whenever, and have the change automatically show, then I believe taking less should be done (if winning is what you truly care about). But, as I said, I don't think that's possible in the NBA.

imnew09 02-15-2013 03:14 PM

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Tim Duncan.

props to him

Hank 02-15-2013 03:16 PM

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Udonis Haslem took $14 Million less to stay with the Heat (total number of a multi year offer from Dallas).

Hank 02-15-2013 03:18 PM

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Shane Battier also took less I read. Around $8-10M less that was offered from other teams.

NumberSix 02-15-2013 03:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NoGunzJustSkillz
if kobe lowered his contract, what good would it do?

None since good players don't want to play with him anyway.

kshutts1 02-15-2013 03:22 PM

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Both of Hank's posts are correct.

However, I took the OP to mean star players. Role players take less quite often. But getting to my earlier point, someone like Haslem or Battier saw the makeup of the team (3 of the top 10-15 players in the league) and knew that they were signing on for likely championships.
In that situation, it baffles me whenever any player doesn't sign on there. Only reason they could go elsewhere is money and/or geography. In which case, fine.. more power to them. But never again claim that you value winning above all else.

BrickingStar 02-15-2013 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kshutts1
Both of Hank's posts are correct.

However, I took the OP to mean star players. Role players take less quite often. But getting to my earlier point, someone like Haslem or Battier saw the makeup of the team (3 of the top 10-15 players in the league) and knew that they were signing on for likely championships.
In that situation, it baffles me whenever any player doesn't sign on there. Only reason they could go elsewhere is money and/or geography. In which case, fine.. more power to them. But never again claim that you value winning above all else.

That and well UD has been playing in Miami since he first picked up a basketball.

NoGunzJustSkillz 02-15-2013 03:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberSix
None since good players don't want to play with him anyway.

i don't get it, do you sit on here 247?

Force 02-15-2013 03:30 PM

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Just follow Shaqs career, long list of players who took less money to play with him. Gary Payton did that twice in LA and Miami. Mourning came out retirement and signed for the minimum to win a ring also. Mailman fell short but you get idea.

NoGunzJustSkillz 02-15-2013 03:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Force
Just follow Shaqs career, long list of players who took less money to play with him. Gary Payton did that twice in LA and Miami. Mourning came out retirement and signed for the minimum to win a ring also. Mailman fell short but you get idea.

i always forget gp got that ring with miami.

Force 02-15-2013 04:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NoGunzJustSkillz
i always forget gp got that ring with miami.


He hit the game winning jumper, I think it was game 3.

RobertdeMeijer 02-15-2013 05:28 PM

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Thanks Force, I forgot about Payton, Malone and Mourning's ring chases.


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