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Michael_Wilbon 02-04-2013 04:34 PM

What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
I think he's the best writer ESPN has.

Discuss.

Beatlezz 02-04-2013 04:36 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
Michael Wilbon is the best sports analyst of all-time. :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

Michael_Wilbon 02-04-2013 04:38 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beatlezz
Michael Wilbon is the best sports analyst of all-time. :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:


I am a lot of times :rockon:

tikay0 02-04-2013 04:38 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
Don't listen to his podcast. Only seen him on the half time shows. He's cool. Seems like a die hard fan.

His Celtics homerism doesn't really bother me, since he admits it, and makes a joke of it.

Michael_Wilbon 02-04-2013 04:41 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tikay0
Don't listen to his podcast. Only seen him on the half time shows. He's cool. Seems like a die hard fan.

His Celtics homerism doesn't really bother me, since he admits it, and makes a joke of it.


I agree. He doesn't try to hide it therefore it doesn't bother me.

DMV2 02-04-2013 04:43 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
He doesn't belong on TV.
Blogs, Web sites, radio....yes, where he belongs. TV, no.

But I'm not sure if it's him or ESPN TV product.

NBA on ESPN is just terrible chemistry. Whenever Jalen, Magic, Wilbon(he's only good w/ Tony K), Simmons are on TV, I feel like I'm watching public access TV or something cuz of how bad the quality and chemistry are. :oldlol:

tikay0 02-04-2013 04:46 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DMV2
He doesn't belong on TV.
Blogs, Web sites, radio....yes, where he belongs. TV, no.

But I'm not sure if it's him or ESPN TV product.

NBA on ESPN is just terrible chemistry. Whenever Jalen, Magic, Wilbon(he's only good w/ Tony K), Simmons are on TV, I feel like I'm watching public access TV or something cuz of how bad the quality and chemistry are. :oldlol:


If it were just Wilbon and Simmons, that would be perfect. Jalen is cringe worthy to listen to, and Magic is just Magic.

fpliii 02-04-2013 04:47 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
I like his podcast and his columns (and loved the 30 for 30 series, which I believe he executive produced), but I don't care for him much as a studio analyst.

I'm really torn on his book though...the amount of research he did is admirable, but I found myself disagreeing with his arguments/logic/trains of thought more often than not. I think it's fine if you take the 'Book of Basketball' for what it is (as opposed to at face value, since it seems Bill performed a lot of research to find support for his arguments, rather than approaching the project with a blank state; this is just how it comes off to me, at least).

Michael_Wilbon 02-04-2013 04:48 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
Simmons has to play by more rules when he's on tv I assume. He can be a little more 'real' when he's writing his grantland articles.

IGotACoolStory 02-04-2013 04:51 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
Grantland is a good site.

I don't really like him in anything else.

chips93 02-04-2013 05:03 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
listen to pretty much all of his podcasts, and read most of his nba columns, and im a huge fan of his website grantland.

i havent seen him on tv, since nba leaguepass doesnt show any pre-game or halftime stuff.

SpecialQue 02-04-2013 06:20 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
It's been very hard to take him seriously lately with his constantly waffling on Lebron. At first he had potential to be one of the greats. Then he signed with Miami and he wrote an article about how he could never, ever be compared to Jordan. Then Lebron wins and now Simmons is saying that he has potential to be even better than Jordan. I understand that people are free to change their minds about the topic at hand, but that jumping back and forth was just fvcking ridiculous.

There is also a dramatic sinking in quality the further away you get from print. His podcast is average, he was awful that one time he was calling a game, his appearances on stuff like those 30 for 30 docs in annoying, and he is absolutely insufferable as a TV analyst.

So overall, a pretty good writer, meh when you hear him speak, terrible when you have to see his face.

Rake2204 02-04-2013 06:33 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
I like Bill Simmons as a writer. I suppose I do not mind him as an analyst, but I certainly prefer him as a writer. A written persona often varies greatly from a real life persona, so it can kind of be a bummer for the consumer to discover both of those aspects of any given writer. It sometimes seems more magical to never know what a writer's like in real life, even if they're perfectly normal and cool.

I had the same issue with Rick Reilly. I liked his back page articles in Sports Illustrated. Now he's just some guy spewing off weird words with a microphone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMV2
NBA on ESPN is just terrible chemistry. Whenever Jalen, Magic, Wilbon(he's only good w/ Tony K), Simmons are on TV, I feel like I'm watching public access TV or something cuz of how bad the quality and chemistry are. :oldlol:

I don't even know if it's bad chemistry. It seems more like a misappropriation of roles and it all starts with Jalen Rose. On the rare occasions I see an introduction to an ESPN/ABC half-time report, hearing Rose lead the way always makes me think he's an emergency fill-in for the real host, who is to return shortly.

I just can't buy Rose as that guy. I think he could analyze, but he's missing something in terms of cultivating discussion amongst his peers, which is exactly what a host's strong point is supposed to be (i.e. Ernie Johnson).

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Originally Posted by SpecialQue
It's been very hard to take him seriously lately with his constantly waffling on Lebron.

I'm not familiar with all the specifics of his LeBron points but from what you said, it sort of just seems like he's been articulating what a lot of us have been feeling in the past few years. With the leading of a medium team to the cusp of greatness (Cleveland), to attempting to create a super stack in his favor so he could "win" and earn the glory he so desired, to he and his team failing to succeed in year one of the "it's going to be easy" era, to his ultimate victory in 2012, there's been a lot of things to throw around and weigh as an NBA fan or analyst.

therammingman 02-04-2013 06:45 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
Love his podcasts

Dwight Shrute 02-04-2013 06:52 PM

Re: What do you guys think of Bill Simmons?
 
I like Bill Simmons... the really dislike magic and jalen though... Both guys just seem out of place. That being said this espn crew is a lot better than what it has been the last few years


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