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Re: The Official "Discuss Jeremy Lin's Performance" Thread
[QUOTE=shoops]I think the 85% thing is a stupid answer too, but it was also a stupid question and shitty questions beget throwaway responses. Pretty sure people understood that Lin wasn't in serviceable playing condition so it's not really like the question shed any new light.
I haven't really seen much talk about rockets players here, and I think it is silly to put down other players if to put Lin in a better light, as each player is a mostly separate issue, but I haven't seen much of that personally.[/QUOTE]
The question was "how are you feeling" because he was our starting pg ,we had a playoff series going with Miami, and our backups sucked donkey dick. How was it a stupid question? He also did not give a stupid answer. The spin later on is extremely stupid.
Note: I have never faulted him for not playing. I defended it. I still think it was ok. But later on when he said he wanted to play but Melo and the front office and everyone else said he shouldn't and he basically lost the argument is when i got annoyed. Basically he wants credit for offering to play even though he did not play. It's bullshit. Excuses. We all know why he didn't play, he was afraid he'd tear up his knee before he got his contract. Melo getting mentioned as a reason was bogus.
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[QUOTE=niko]The question was "how are you feeling" because he was our starting pg ,we had a playoff series going with Miami, and our backups sucked donkey dick. How was it a stupid question? He also did not give a stupid answer. The spin later on is extremely stupid.
Note: I have never faulted him for not playing. I defended it. I still think it was ok. But later on when he said he wanted to play but Melo and the front office and everyone else said he shouldn't and he basically lost the argument is when i got annoyed. Basically he wants credit for offering to play even though he did not play. It's bullshit. Excuses. We all know why he didn't play, he was afraid he'd tear up his knee before he got his contract. Melo getting mentioned as a reason was bogus.[/QUOTE]
I think the follow up question asking about what he meant by 85% was stupid, I mean, not the original "how's the injury."
As for the wanting to play thing, I don't see that as him trying to take credit for that or trying to act like a hero, it's simply his response for what his feelings were at the time, different interpretations perhaps idk... but obviously taking action would've been unrealistic or foolhardy for health and for player value reasons.
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[QUOTE=shoops]I think the follow up question asking about what he meant by 85% was stupid, I mean, not the original "how's the injury."
As for the wanting to play thing, I don't see that as him trying to take credit for that or trying to act like a hero, it's simply his response for what his feelings were at the time, different interpretations perhaps idk... but obviously taking action would've been unrealistic or foolhardy for health and for player value reasons.[/QUOTE]
He didn't want to play because he wasn't going to risk his health. He should have said "i didn't think i could play". That everyone in the world was said to have told him not to and he wanted to was ridiculous. And note: It's been said by the Knicks beat reporters to be patently false when they asked people about it. Including Ian O Connor who wants Lin to father his children.
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Not to say I told you so. But, I kinda did. Jeremy Lin is more a story of athletic culture than it is about a great basketball player. Again, ill repeat he is R#mon sessions.
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[QUOTE=niko]He didn't want to play because he wasn't going to risk his health. He should have said "i didn't think i could play". That everyone in the world was said to have told him not to and he wanted to was ridiculous. And note: It's been said by the Knicks beat reporters to be patently false when they asked people about it. Including Ian O Connor who wants Lin to father his children.[/QUOTE]
I guess I didn't read too much into that affair. Seemed a tad bit over dramatized for me, personally. There was probably a grain of truth but it read like a cheesy sports movie script lol. Oh well...
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He's getting outplayed by Raymond Felton, which I didn't see happening. Knicks are looking smart. Houston, not so much. They probably should have kept Dragic.
That being said, I still think Lin will average around 14 and 7 this season when it's all said done.
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Not a fan of Lin at all. It will be interesting to see what marketing dollars he can still bring in with his shoddy play.
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Lin vs Bulls :lol...
4 points, 2-8, 3 assists/5 turnovers in 24 minutes. Milwad was right. Lin's confidence is completely gone along with his game.
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[QUOTE=AngelEyes]Not a fan of Lin at all. It will be interesting to see what marketing dollars he can still bring in with his shoddy play.[/QUOTE]
Not much at all. Part of the reason he was signed was to bring in more fans, but that's failed miserably.
As Sun Yue and Yi Jianling proved, even Asians don't care about below average players.
I tried to warn people about all those false assumptions on signing Lin "for marketing reasons", which wouldn't mean anything if he wasn't performaing at Linsanity level.
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[QUOTE=Graviton]Lin vs Bulls :lol...
4 points, 2-8, 3 assists/5 turnovers in 24 minutes. Milwad was right. Lin's confidence is completely gone along with his game.[/QUOTE]
Awful 2nd quarter from him, offensively and defensively. Nate was too quick for him, but Lin was also out of control on the offensive end there. I'm concerned about his shooting and confidence, but not really concerned about his turnovers, as a few of those were travels/stepping out of bounds.
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]Not much at all. Part of the reason he was signed was to bring in more fans, but that's failed miserably.
As Sun Yue and Yi Jianling proved, even Asians don't care about below average players.
I tried to warn people about all those false assumptions on signing Lin "for marketing reasons", which wouldn't mean anything if he wasn't performaing at Linsanity level.[/QUOTE]
I think you're underestimating it. He still has a ton of fans, and they have tv deals in asia airing rockets games. Dunno the exact numbers or anything though. He should still be able to retain his fans unless he sucks for the whole season.
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[QUOTE=shoops]I think you're underestimating it. He still has a ton of fans, and they have tv deals in asia airing rockets games. Dunno the exact numbers or anything though. He should still be able to retain his fans unless he sucks for the whole season.[/QUOTE]
It all comes down to performance, and so far that's been lacking. Saying that he has "tons of fans" doesn't mean much unless it can be quantified.
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[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]It all comes down to performance, and so far that's been lacking. Saying that he has "tons of fans" doesn't mean much unless it can be quantified.[/QUOTE]
Though he's sucking it doesn't indicate anything about his fan following and appeal either.
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[QUOTE=tikay0]He was flat atrocious![/QUOTE]
After the first quarter yeah...his confidence must be in the drain by now.
Lol Nate lifted you guys and also killed you guys.
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[QUOTE=shoops]After the first quarter yeah...his confidence must be in the drain by now.
Lol Nate lifted you guys and also killed you guys.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Nate's a hit or miss type player. He'll get you 8 straight points in 2 minutes, then cost you 3 TO's in the process. Oh well, he has more offensive than anyone on the team besides Rose. It's sad.......:facepalm
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Good Lord Jeremy Lin you SUCK :roll:
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Sat the last 5 minutes of the game. This is gonna do WONDERS for his confidence.
Ouch. I give him all the credit for making it as far as he did, but this is a MANS game. If you don't believe in yourself then you need to GTFO. He was handed the keys to a brand new Porsche and he is struggling to back it out of the garage.
Still, though...he has been awful, but it's only been about 10 games into the season as well. Still early to close the book.
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[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]Sat the last 5 minutes of the game. This is gonna do WONDERS for his confidence.
Ouch. I give him all the credit for making it as far as he did, but this is a MANS game. If you don't believe in yourself then you need to GTFO. He was handed the keys to a brand new Porsche and he is struggling to back it out of the garage.
Still, though...he has been awful, but it's only been about 10 games into the season as well. Still early to close the book.[/QUOTE]
he deserves to be moved to second unit the way he's playing. looks scared, won't drive like he did in new york, he continaully passes up open jump shots.
his handling looks very suspect. what has he been doing all summer? if you're getting paid $25 million, no excuses! sit down and start watching some tapes of chris paul and steve nash and how they breka down the defense and use the pick and roll.
i really am starting to think linsanity took off because he had one of the best pnr players in the nba - Tyson Chandler and the best 3 point shooter Novak. Lin should've stayed in NY, now he's getting exposed.
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Lin is ideal coming off the bench. I don't think he can be a starter on a contending team.
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[QUOTE=AngelEyes]Lin is ideal coming off the bench. I don't think he can be a starter on a contending team.[/QUOTE]
Apparently not on a bad team either.
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[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Apparently not on a bad team either.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps
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[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Apparently not on a bad team either.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much this I think its time for Houston to swallow there pride and just admit getting Lin has been a major mistake and that he should start of the bench and get limited mins. Ethier Houston should trade for a PG (Bledsoe) or let Scott Macahdo have a go and see what his good playmaking skills can bring, this is just getting flat out embarrasing for Lin and the organisation hes shooting in the low 30's and just had 5 turnovers and 4 points
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AFTER LAST NIGHTS DEBACLE I'VE GIVEN UP ON HIM. Sadly the Linsanity is looking like a fuke run.
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[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]Sat the last 5 minutes of the game. This is gonna do WONDERS for his confidence.
Ouch. I give him all the credit for making it as far as he did, but this is a MANS game. If you don't believe in yourself then you need to GTFO. He was handed the keys to a brand new Porsche and he is struggling to back it out of the garage.
[B]Still, though...he has been awful, but it's only been about 10 games into the season as well. Still early to close the book.[/B][/QUOTE]
But on the other side, people were hyping up like crazy because of the few sample of games he played great last season, now when it's the other way around are supposed to give him time? We've learned one thing due this, don't judge players based on a very few sample of games..
And don't give big contracts to players like Lin ever again, if you check Jeremy's game log from last season one thing stands out. Out of the 35 games he played, 16 of the games were either terrible or games he barely got any playing time in so he got his contract due playing 19 good games..
I would love to see a trade for Bledsoe or some good guard who can play starting minutes, I don't have any high hopes that Lin will work out as the starting point guard and Douglas is too bad to play bad minutes so a trade is basically a must for a decent point guard.
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Everything changes when teams have film on you
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Updated. Those stats didn't look good
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Just finished watching the game, he started off well apart from taking dumb ass three as the first shot then threw up 2 bricks in quick succession and a floater that was in an out.
Then Nate came in and vaporised him. (to be fair Nate when on fire will do it to anyone, check the game he had against miami last year for GS warriors)
Then the coach subbed him off because Lin was playing shook with no aggression. His intensity and effort level are all down from previous games.
He's just getting worse....:facepalm
Personally, I hope he turns it around.
If he can average 14/7/5 for the year, then I consider it a good year for him. I really thought he was going to get those stats at the beginning of the year.
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I'm retiring the thread. After every game someone posts a "LIN DID THIS VS. THE LAKERS LAST NIGHT" so it's not point really. My point wasn't to spam Lin threads. :rockon: I'm sure there will be many threads to argue in.
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This thread can't be retired without an obligatory bump after Lin playing a great game and his Rockets' thrashing of the Knicks today in MSG. :D
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It's only convenient for fan boys to come out of the wood work after his great game against the Spurs.
It's only convenient for Lin haters to come out of the wood work after bad games.
verdict: Haters come out of the wood work many more times than Lin fan boys do.