The Harden acquisition, if he's going to bring the ball up makes Lin's role different and a role he doesn't fit very well. They need to change that up or Lin might become an expensive backup.
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The Harden acquisition, if he's going to bring the ball up makes Lin's role different and a role he doesn't fit very well. They need to change that up or Lin might become an expensive backup.
[QUOTE=bagelred]Exactly. Third year guaranteed. Only "option" is if they waive Lin and could spread out money for salary cap purposes. But Lin is getting paid his money either way.[/QUOTE]
Hey man, I am not trying to make stuff up, I just read somewhere that the third year is a team option. Like I said earlier I don't understand enough about nba contracts.
Anyway, tried to google it right now, and not coming up with much.
[QUOTE=stevieming]Hey man, I am not trying to make stuff up, I just read somewhere that the third year is a team option. Like I said earlier I don't understand enough about nba contracts.
Anyway, tried to google it right now, and not coming up with much.[/QUOTE]
His contract is guaranteed, you don't need to google it to tell us, we all know. Do you think every story on him leaving the Knicks had a wrong fact in it? That we were all confused?
Like I said in the game thread, it seems clear that Houston is very hands on and likes to put training wheels on their young players. Lin would have barely qualified as an MLB rookie. In some ways, he's like one. Look at how they handled Morris last year and how much he looks like a basketball player this year. Look at how the rookies aren't getting any game time this year. Chandler Parsons was the exception last year.
He'll get more and more freedom as the year goes on.
[QUOTE=stevieming]Hey man, I am not trying to make stuff up, I just read somewhere that the third year is a team option. Like I said earlier I don't understand enough about nba contracts.
Anyway, tried to google it right now, and not coming up with much.[/QUOTE]
Just go to rotoworld or even better basketball-reference. On the first page you'll see the teams in the league and their records. You'll also see a $. Click on it. That's the team salaries page. You see options, you see money that's still on the books (I saw Karl Malone being owed money by the Lakers this year).
He is only 3 inches and needs 2 Viagaras to get going.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]Like I said in the game thread, it seems clear that Houston is very hands on and likes to put training wheels on their young players. Lin would have barely qualified as an MLB rookie. In some ways, he's like one. Look at how they handled Morris last year and how much he looks like a basketball player this year. Look at how the rookies aren't getting any game time this year. Chandler Parsons was the exception last year.
He'll get more and more freedom as the year goes on.
Just go to rotoworld or even better basketball-reference. On the first page you'll see the teams in the league and their records. You'll also see a $. Click on it. That's the team salaries page. You see options, you see money that's still on the books (I saw Karl Malone being owed money by the Lakers this year).[/QUOTE]
cool thanks! :cheers:
he just needs time and experience to build up his confidence, the rockets games I caught he looked a bit timid and hesitant whereas during linsanity he was playing with maximum swagger. linsanity is out of reach but he will obviously improve from his current play
vs trailblazers
3 for 8 11 points 11 assists 6 rebounds 1 steal 2 blocks 3 turnovers in 35:34
benched in ot probAbly due to his poor defense. (dAmian lillard owned him)
vs lakers
2 for 9 5 points 10 assists 1 rebounds 1 steAl 3 turnovers in 31:13
outplayed by darius morris.
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]vs trailblazers
3 for 8 11 points 11 assists 6 rebounds 1 steal 2 blocks 3 turnovers in 35:34
benched in ot probAbly due to his poor defense. (dAmian lillard owned him)
vs lakers
2 for 9 5 points 10 assists 1 rebounds 1 steAl 3 turnovers in 31:13
outplayed by darius morris.[/QUOTE]
Look like Rondo type numbers. Just today he got 12 points, 10 assists, 3 rebounds, 1 steal, 6 turnovers in 38minutes and lost to the damn Pistons. :lol
Lin top 5 PG? :cheers:
[QUOTE=Graviton]Look like Rondo type numbers. Just today he got 12 points, 10 assists, 3 rebounds, 1 steal, 6 turnovers in 38minutes and lost to the damn Pistons. :lol
Lin top 5 PG? :cheers:[/QUOTE]
Too bad for Rocket fans that Lin doesn't average 13.3 points on great 52% shooting like Rondo and that Lin doesn't average 13.2 assists per game this season.
Lin is a disaster this far, I hope he'll step up soon because his shooting has been so freaking bad. There's no way Houston can live with a point guard who only makes 35% of his FGA and who who shoots many 3's but only make 26% of his 3 point attempts..
[QUOTE=niko]The Harden acquisition, if he's going to bring the ball up makes Lin's role different and a role he doesn't fit very well. They need to change that up or Lin might become an expensive backup.[/QUOTE]
Can you imagine what the Rockets would look like without the Harden acquisition? Probably historically bad.
Chandler Parsons is a player, though.
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]Can you imagine what the Rockets would look like without the Harden acquisition? Probably historically bad.
Chandler Parsons is a player, though.[/QUOTE]
this
lin might be the worst starting pg in da league. even morris looks better. if houston had an average backup lin would be camped on the bench. what happen machado? he cant be any worse?
[QUOTE=Graviton]Look like Rondo type numbers. Just today he got 12 points, 10 assists, 3 rebounds, 1 steal, 6 turnovers in 38minutes and lost to the damn Pistons. :lol
Lin top 5 PG? :cheers:[/QUOTE]
Rondo is eons better both defensively and offensively. Honestly the numbers (as awful as they are)don't tell the whole story. He constantly makes boneheaded plays that don't show up on the stat sheet.
[QUOTE=disel]lin might be the worst starting pg in da league. even morris looks better. if houston had an average backup lin would be camped on the bench. what happen machado? he cant be any worse?[/QUOTE]
+ 1 Machado for Iona RIPPED UP, the dude has insane in terrific passing skills and is a good playmaker and every bit as good athlete as Lin, he can create his own shot althought i don't think hes a high % type shooter, give the kid a go he can't be worse than Lin and Douglas and also brings something to the game nethier have.
Rough starting point guard rankings:
Chris Paul
Rajon Rondo
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Kyrie Irving
Tony Parker
Deron Williams
Steve Nash
Kyle Lowry
Goran Dragic
Jrue Holiday
Brandon Jennings
Damian Lillard
John Wall
Ricky Rubio
Mike Conley
Raymond Felton
Kemba Walker
Steph Curry
Jeff Teague
Ty Lawson
Darren Collison
George Hill
Mo Williams
Jameer Nelson
ChAlmers
Grevis
brandon knight
Isaiah Thomas
Jeremy Lin
Lin sucks period. Throwing balls outta bounds, can't shoot to save his life. Can't even drive any more. Bonafide scrub
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]Rough starting point guard rankings:
Chris Paul
Rajon Rondo
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Kyrie Irving
Tony Parker
Deron Williams
Brandon Jennings
Steve Nash
Jrue Holiday
Kyle Lowrie
Goran Dragic
Damian Lillard
John Wall
Ricky Rubio
Mike Conley
Raymond Felton
Kemba Walker
Steph Curry
Jeff Teague
Ty Lawson
Darren Collison
George Hill
Mo Williams
Jameer Nelson
Grevis
brandon knight
Isaiah Thomas
Jeremy Lin[/QUOTE]
what you're saying is, hes the new Fisher
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]Rough starting point guard rankings:
Chris Paul
Rajon Rondo
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
Kyrie Irving
Tony Parker
Deron Williams
Steve Nash
Kyle Lowry
Goran Dragic
Jrue Holiday
Brandon Jennings
Damian Lillard
John Wall
Ricky Rubio
Mike Conley
Raymond Felton
Kemba Walker
Steph Curry
Jeff Teague
Ty Lawson
Darren Collison
George Hill
Mo Williams
Jameer Nelson
Grevis
brandon knight
Isaiah Thomas
Jeremy Lin[/QUOTE]
Lol, hope ur not srs about that list, otherwise it's a pretty crappy ranking, it's like you're trying to rank some by reputation and others by the past few games. :hammerhead: Also, you forgot Mario Chalmers.
[QUOTE=shoops]Lol, hope ur not srs about that list, otherwise it's a pretty crappy ranking, it's like you're trying to rank some by reputation and others by the past few games. :hammerhead: Also, you forgot Mario Chalmers.[/QUOTE]
Who would you rank behind Lin?
I've seen your posts on clutchfans, LOF:er..
Lin is one of the worst starting point guards in the league, period.
[QUOTE=millwad]Who would you rank behind Lin?
I've seen your posts on clutchfans, LOF:er..
Lin is one of the worst starting point guards in the league, period.[/QUOTE]
Lol no, I like Lin, but I can actually be objective about him, I don't make bogus excuses about his play. He's shooting poorly, not much else to say about him.
And I'm not even talking about Lin in the list, I mean in general, everyone else as a whole.
[QUOTE=shoops]Lol no, I like Lin, but I can actually be objective about him, I don't make bogus excuses about his play. He's shooting poorly, not much else to say about him.
And I'm not even talking about Lin in the list, I mean in general, everyone else as a whole.[/QUOTE]
Lin is better than his play as of late. He doesn't have the explosion and I believe it's messed with his lift in his shot. I dislike what happened with him and the Knicks this Summer, but he'll do better.
[QUOTE=shoops]Lol, hope ur not srs about that list, otherwise it's a pretty crappy ranking, it's like you're trying to rank some by reputation and others by the past few games. :hammerhead: Also, you forgot Mario Chalmers.[/QUOTE]
ok who did i mess up in your opinion?
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One thing I've noticed is he sure hustles for loose balls and rebounds...
i dont think lin has impressed anyone yet. hes just doing ok, i can see him doing poorly against great defenders
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]ok who did i mess up in your opinion?[/QUOTE]
Just in general overall, but I'll point a few. For instance, Nash hasn't played much recently and when he has, has just played ok, but I'm assuming you put him up there by reputation. Wall hasn't played particularly well either in his sophomore year, and he hasn't even played games in this season yet. Ray Felton has probably been playing better as of late than where you put him, relatively speaking. Lawson is playing pretty badly now atm too, but he's def not that bad regularly. Etc, etc. Just saying if this is your actual list, your criteria seems to be a bit too haphazard. Anyways, it's just kinda bad to rank players linearly...
Updated for LA Game. The official Jeremy Lin excuse tour is in full effect in the media, how NY was too much for him, he can't trust anyone, it messed up his game, etc. Because nothing is Lin's fault, it was NY for putting too much pressure on him. (Let's not acknowledge the adoration, let's just call it pressure.)
Knick fans are obnoxious.
you could say jeremy's play has been LIN-ited this season
[QUOTE=niko]The official Jeremy Lin excuse tour is in full effect in the media, how NY was too much for him, he can't trust anyone, it messed up his game, etc. Because nothing is Lin's fault, it was NY for putting too much pressure on him. (Let's not acknowledge the adoration, let's just call it pressure.)[/QUOTE]
Did you hear the one that says Houston isn't good enough for Jeremy, and that he needs to be traded to the Lakers?
:roll:
[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]Did you hear the one that says Houston isn't good enough for Jeremy, and that he needs to be traded to the Lakers?
:roll:[/QUOTE]
NO, but i wouldn't be surprised with the crap his people put out there. He's either spinning, or he's very weak minded because the NY crowds gave him love like you wouldn't believe. For that to be a burden and not something that fueled him (which is what it looked like at the time) is unbelievable to me. It looked like the most fun thing in the world to be him and he's saying it was horrible. It was a few freaking weeks, not ten years. It's mind boggling.
why is everyone so hard on lin
he's putting up 7 APG while sharing the playmaking role with Harden and only logging like 31mpg
if he would just knock down a few open jumpers he would be having a respectable season. and i would think he can rediscover his stroke sometime in the next few months.
people acting like he's just straight garbage or something
[QUOTE=niko]Updated for LA Game. The official Jeremy Lin excuse tour is in full effect in the media, how NY was too much for him, he can't trust anyone, it messed up his game, etc. Because nothing is Lin's fault, it was NY for putting too much pressure on him. (Let's not acknowledge the adoration, let's just call it pressure.)[/QUOTE]
Lol dude, you still sound butthurt over Lin. Not sure where you're getting that stuff from. I suppose you get your news from tabloids too? Just let it go or something, your team is doing well and Felton is playing great. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=heyhey]why is everyone so hard on lin
he's putting up 7 APG while sharing the playmaking role with Harden and only logging like 31mpg
if he would just knock down a few open jumpers he would be having a respectable season. and i would think he can rediscover his stroke sometime in the next few months.
people acting like he's just straight garbage or something[/QUOTE]
I think what's got people shaking their heads is that he's playing scared. And it doesn't help that he gets pulled from the game late due to not playing defense. His main problem is confidence and if the coaching staff doesn't show confidence in him, it will just make it worse.
The defense part is a bit confusing for me. Granted I haven't been able to see the last few games, but whenever I've seen him, his defense hasn't been that bad. Granted, it's not stellar and he still goes under screens too much, but he generally stays in front of his guy and he gets a lot of steals. I know Lilliard went off, but was it Lin's defense or just a guy having a great night?
[QUOTE=KungFuJoe]The defense part is a bit confusing for me. Granted I haven't been able to see the last few games, but whenever I've seen him, his defense hasn't been that bad. Granted, it's not stellar and he still goes under screens too much, but he generally stays in front of his guy and he gets a lot of steals. I know Lilliard went off, but was it Lin's defense or just a guy having a great night?[/QUOTE]
Lillard didn't actually go off on Lin, he went off near the end of the game and on Douglas. Props to Lillard for that though. Lin didn't help at the post and slack off on Lillard at the 3 in the latest Portland game. However, he tried to give help d yesterday on Howard several times unsuccessfully, and it left his man wide open for a 3. Bad idea, but I think it was a coaching decision to double/triple the post, as he wasn't the only one. Would've been better probably used his own judgment and disregard the coach, and stuck to his man though. He looked a bit sluggish on defense vs the Lakers and his D didn't look great, but it was the 3s that were problematic.
Must be nice to get paid $8million a year for having 8 good games.
Getting injured might have been the best thing to ever happen to Lin, because he would've been exposed hardcore by Miami in the playoffs and his averages would likely have fallen back down to earth as the regular season went on. Instead, he's getting $25million/3year deals thrown at him for being one of the worst starting PGs in the league.
SMH.
I can't even feel bad for Lin. He's getting paid 25 million and I still think he could have came back during that Miami series last year but Chalmers would have locked him up like he did during the regular season. He was going for that contract and got it.
he's averaging 7asst, a game. He doing a solid job at that... That's good for #12 in the league [url]http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jeremy_lin/career_stats.html[/url]
calling him one of the worst, i feel is a bit of an exaggeration. :confusedshrug:
//his shooting has regressed this year, but thats the only thing i can criticize
///he's protecting the ball better this year too...nomore lin-overs (that comes in bunches) :rockon:
[QUOTE=shoops]Lol dude, you still sound butthurt over Lin. Not sure where you're getting that stuff from. I suppose you get your news from tabloids too? Just let it go or something, your team is doing well and Felton is playing great. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Jackass, he's had a few articles in major magazines over the last few days. Go read. He very clearly says he didn't like the attention, doesn't trust anyone, doesn't knows who his friends were, etc. I'm not paraphrasing, it's exactly what he said. He's on a media tour. It's not local stuff. Yahoo has one of the interviews if you want to see it. It's not the only one.
[QUOTE=niko]Jackass, he's had a few articles in major magazines over the last few days. Go read. He very clearly says he didn't like the attention, doesn't trust anyone, doesn't knows who his friends were, etc. I'm not paraphrasing, it's exactly what he said. He's on a media tour. It's not local stuff. Yahoo has one of the interviews if you want to see it. It's not the only one.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't just directing to your previous comment, you had more than one butthurt comment recently. Just sayin'... Anyways, I think I saw that article on yahoo, but only that one, I didn't see any others on yahoo sports main page and espn... The yahoo article seemed a tad dramatic, though there's probably a little truth to it. He's the kinda guy that seems uncomfortable because of attention, in NY he was drawing it away from himself and also crediting the team as they deserved. Don't see how he tried to use those reasons to excuse his poor play like you claimed though.