The GOAT List: 100 Greatest Players in Basketball History

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[B][FONT="Georgia"][SIZE="6"]The GOAT List:
The 100 Greatest Players in Professional Basketball History[/SIZE][/FONT][/B]

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Top 100 Index[/SIZE][/B]

#100 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3397701&postcount=5"]Yao Ming - page 1[/URL]
#100 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3397701&postcount=5"]Amare Stoudemire - page 1[/URL]
#100 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3397701&postcount=5"]Carmelo Anthony - page 1[/URL]
#100 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3397701&postcount=5"]Chris Paul - page 1[/URL]
#100[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3397701&postcount=5"] Dwight Howard - page 1[/URL]
#99 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3398045&postcount=10"]Kevin Johnson - page 1[/URL]
*98 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3398045&postcount=10"]Marques Johnson - page 1[/URL]
#97 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3398163&postcount=18"]Gail Goodrich - page 2[/URL]
#96 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3398163&postcount=18"]Grant Hill - page 2[/URL]
#95 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3399369&postcount=26"]Ray Allen - page 2[/URL]
#94 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3403157&postcount=50"]Mitch Richmond - page 3[/URL]
#93 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3403157&postcount=50"]Chris Mullin - page 3[/URL]
#92 T[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3403157&postcount=50"]im Hardaway - page 3[/URL]
#91 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3403671&postcount=54"]George Yardley - page 4[/URL]
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#90 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3403671&postcount=54"]Joe Fulks - page 4[/URL]
#89 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3404548&postcount=93"]Tommy Heinsohn - page 6[/URL]
#88 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3404548&postcount=93"]Chris Webber - page 6[/URL]
#87 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3409854&postcount=110"]Mel Daniels - page 7[/URL]
#86 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3412773&postcount=127"]Walt Bellamy - page 9[/URL]
#85 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3412773&postcount=127"]Bob Lanier - page 9[/URL]
#84 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3412773&postcount=127"]Neil Johnston - page 9[/URL]
#83 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3416023&postcount=217"]Bobby Jones - page 15[/URL]
#82 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3416023&postcount=217"]Alonzo Mourning - page 15[/URL]
#81 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3416023&postcount=217"]Sidney Moncrief - page 15[/URL]
#80 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3416023&postcount=217"]Ben Wallace - page 15[/URL]
#79 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3416023&postcount=217"]Dikembe Mutombo - page 15[/URL]
#78 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3416023&postcount=217"]Dennis Rodman - page 15[/URL]
#77 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3416023&postcount=217"]Artis Gilmore - page 15[/URL]
#76 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3420308&postcount=232"]David Thompson - page 16[/URL]
#75 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3420308&postcount=232"]Tracy McGrady - page 16[/URL]
#74 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3420308&postcount=232"]Reggie Miller - page 16[/URL]
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#73 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3420308&postcount=232"]Earl Monroe - page 16[/URL]
#72 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3424672&postcount=261"]Bernard King - page 17[/URL]
#71 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3424672&postcount=261"]Adrian Dantley - page 17[/URL]
#70 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3424672&postcount=261"]Alex English - page 17[/URL]
#69 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3428100&postcount=268"]Nate Thurmond - page 18[/URL]
#68 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3428100&postcount=268"]Robert Parish - page 18[/URL]
#67 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3436828&postcount=285"]Jo Jo White -page 19[/URL]
#66 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3436828&postcount=285"]Tony Parker -page 19[/URL]
#65 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3436828&postcount=285"]Chauncy Billups -page 19[/URL]
#64 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3436828&postcount=285"]Paul Pierce -page 19[/URL]
#63 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3436828&postcount=285"]Dennis Johnson -page 19[/URL]
#62 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3451177&postcount=301"]Hal Greer - page 20[/URL]
#61 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3451177&postcount=301"]Bill Sharman -page 20[/URL]
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#60 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3455623&postcount=306"]Connie Hawkins - page 20[/URL]
#59 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3455623&postcount=306"]Spencer Haywood - page 20[/URL]
#58 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3455623&postcount=306"]George McGinnis - page 20[/URL]
#57 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3476790&postcount=357"]Steve Nash - page 24[/URL]
#56 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3476790&postcount=357"]Dwyane Wade - page 24[/URL]
#55 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3481858&postcount=364"]Dave Debusschere - page 24[/URL]
#54 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3481858&postcount=364"]Dave Bing - page 24[/URL]
#53 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3487907&postcount=378"]Jerry Lucas - page 25[/URL]
#52 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3487907&postcount=378"]Paul Arizin - page 25[/URL]
#51 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3487907&postcount=378"]Billy Cunningham - page 25[/URL]
#50 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3495500&postcount=396"]LeBron James - page 26[/URL]
#49 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3505482&postcount=406"]Joe Dumars - page 27[/URL]
#48 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3515005&postcount=440"]Sam Jones - page 29[/URL]
#47 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3521102&postcount=448"]Nate Archibald - page 30[/URL]
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#46 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3527881&postcount=465"]Pete Maravich - page 31[/URL]
#45 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3539918&postcount=513"]Dominique Wilkins - page 34[/URL]
#44 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3547080&postcount=520"]Dolph Schayes - page 35[/URL]
#43 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3562836&postcount=527"]Gary Payton - page 36[/URL]
#42 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3562843&postcount=529"]Jason Kidd - page 36[/URL]
#41 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3565449&postcount=553"]Patrick Ewing - page 37[/URL]
#40 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3573266#post3573266"]Clyde Drexler - page 39[/URL]
#39 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3583356&postcount=590"]George Gervin - page 40[/URL]
#38 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3586684&postcount=594"]Dirk Nowitzki - page 40[/URL]
#37 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3589155&postcount=608"]Bob McAdoo - page 41[/URL]
#36 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3594691&postcount=616"]Allen Iverson - page 42[/URL]
#35 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3600196&postcount=633"]Dave Cowens - page 43[/URL]
#34 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3602527&postcount=635"]Wes Unseld - page 43[/URL]
#33 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3610570&postcount=646"]Bill Walton - page 44[/URL]
#32 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3637721&postcount=680"]Elvin Hayes - page 46[/URL]
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#31 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3651300&postcount=703"]James Worthy - page 47[/URL]
#30 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3683248&postcount=776"]Kevin McHale - page 52[/URL]
#29 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3712225&postcount=790"]Walt Frazier - page 53[/URL]
#28 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3712225&postcount=790"]Willis Reed - page 53[/URL]
#27 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3799302&postcount=799"]David Robinson - page 54[/URL]
#26 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3809533&postcount=800"]Scottie Pippen - page 54[/URL]
[SIZE="6"][FONT="Impact"][B]The Top 25[/B][/FONT][/SIZE]
#25 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3817365&postcount=826"]The Original Greatest of All-Time[/URL]
#24 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3826156&postcount=828"]The Greatest Playmaker of All-Time[/URL]
#23 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3828004&postcount=843"]The Greatest Enigma of All-Time[/URL]
#22 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3878297&postcount=874"]The Greatest Prototype of All-Time[/URL]
#21 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4058431&postcount=904"]The Greatest Iron Man of All-Time[/URL]
#20 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4073805&postcount=928"]The Greatest Little Man of All-Time[/URL]
#19 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4109224&postcount=943"]The Greatest Competitor of All-Time[/URL]
#18 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4112174&postcount=954"]The Greatest Innovator of All-Time[/URL]
#17 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4137090&postcount=981"]The Greatest Never to Win a Title of All-Time[/URL]
#16 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4137090&postcount=981"]The Greatest Energizer of All-Time[/URL]
#15 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4137090&postcount=981"]The Greatest Imagination of All-Time[/URL]
#14 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4160682&postcount=1007"]The Greatest Old-School White Guy of All-Time[/URL]
#13 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4177960&postcount=1034"]The Greatest Offensive Rebounder of All-Time[/URL]
#12 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4207306&postcount=1082"]The Greatest Logo of All-Time[/URL]
#11 [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4213737&postcount=1099"]The Greatest Triple-Threat of All-Time[/URL]
#10 The Greatest Imitator of All-Time
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Go ahead. No joke, I'd like to see your 100 players. If you don't have Ray Allen on there, though... :D

[QUOTE=TheAnchorman]Go ahead. No joke, I'd like to see your 100 players.[COLOR="White"]Ray Allen better be in the top fifty.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
I agree.:cheers:

[I][FONT="Garamond"][SIZE="4"]The 100th spot on the list is reserved for active players, who while not having full resumes yet, are on their way to cracking the list of the 100 greatest before their time is through. This year there are five such players tied for the 100th spot. [/SIZE][/FONT][/I]


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[SIZE="4"][B][FONT="Book Antiqua"]#100 Dwight Howard[/FONT][/SIZE][/B]
[B]Team(s):[/B] Orlando Magic
[B]Years Played:[/B] 2004-
[B]Career Numbers: [/B] 17.3 ppg 12.5 rpg 2.0 bpg

Howard is one of the game's fastest rising stars and is poised to be the premier center in the league for the foreseeable future. Already three all-star games two slam dunk titles, two rebounding titles, two first team All-NBA selections and a trip to the NBA finals on his resume he is sure to move higher and higher up the list every year.

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[SIZE="4"][B][FONT="Book Antiqua"]#100 Carmelo Anthony[/FONT][/SIZE][/B]
[B]Team(s):[/B] Denver Nuggets
[B]Years Played:[/B] 2003-
[B]Career Numbers: [/B] 24.6 ppg 6.1 rpg 3.1 apg

Part of that amazing 2003 Draft Class that already features two members inside the top 99, Carmelo is well on his way to making it three. A prolific scorer, his defense and leadership spiked this season and his team surged into the conference final. Expect him to improve on his three consecutive third team All-NBA selections next season with a 1st or 2nd team spot.

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[SIZE="4"][B][FONT="Book Antiqua"]#100 Chris Paul[/FONT][/SIZE][/B]
[B]Team(s):[/B] New Orleans Hornets
[B]Years Played:[/B] 2005-
[B]Career Numbers: [/B] 18.8 ppg 9.6 apg 4.8 rpg 2.4 spg

Already widely regarded as the games best point guard Paul has already netted two assist and three total steals crowns while putting the Hornets back into the playoffs and NBA relevancy. Coming off a first team All-NBA selection last season Paul has a very bright future ahead of him.

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[SIZE="4"][B][FONT="Book Antiqua"]#100 Amare Stoudemire[/FONT][/SIZE][/B]
[B]Team(s):[/B] Phoenix Suns
[B]Years Played:[/B] 2002-
[B]Career Numbers: [/B] 21.1 ppg 8.9 rpg 1.5 bpg

Recovering from injuries and regaining as much of the explosiveness that's made him the NBA's most dangerous in the paint scorer of the last five years will be key for Amare and how high he climbs on this list. With a first and two second team All-NBA selections already to his name he's approaching the likes of Alonzo Mourning, Dave Cowens, Bill Walton, Willis Reed, Wes Unseld and Dikembe Mutumbo in terms of personal accolades already.

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[SIZE="4"][B][FONT="Book Antiqua"]#100 Yao Ming[/FONT][/SIZE][/B]
[B]Team(s):[/B] Houston Rockets
[B]Years Played:[/B] 2002-
[B]Career Numbers: [/B] 19.1 ppg 9.3 rpg 1.6 apg

The world's most popular players still and the most fascinating and frustrating in the NBA. It seems unlikely now that he'll eclipse many more players at his position on this list as he sits in the 100 spot for the third straight year. Injuries are piling up for Yao and postseason success is not. A seven time all-star and with two second and three third team All-NBA selections a fine career but it still feels underwhelming given his unique attributes and skills.

[QUOTE=BrilliantLegacy]I think Yao is finished.[/QUOTE]

That's a major concern and something Houston has to consider when deciding what to do with T-Mac's expiring contract.

If Yao's career ends today is he a top 25 Center All-time?

[I][FONT="Palatino Linotype"][SIZE="3"]No more tears hoops fans, but we might need some band-aids as we go Johnson and Johnson with the #99 and #98 spots. Point guard Kevin Johnson who made his mark mainly with the Phoenix Suns in the 1990's and wing Marques Johnson who made his with the Bucks in 1980's. Both had their primes cut short by injury but are undoubtedly remembered by those who saw them as two of the more talented and entertaining players of their respective eras. [/SIZE][/FONT][/I]

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[SIZE="4"][B][FONT="Book Antiqua"]#99 Kevin Johnson[/FONT][/SIZE][/B]
[B]Team(s):[/B] Cleveland Cavaliers, Phoenix Suns
[B]Years Played:[/B] 1987-2000
[B]Career Numbers: [/B] 17.9 ppg 9.1 apg 3.0 rpg

Lightning quick guard with an arsenal of moves and the ability to score in bunches like few other guards of his era. A three-time all-star and five time all-NBA selection, Johnson averaged over 20 points per game five times and 10 assists four. His career 9.1 assist per game average ranks him 7th all-time. Injuries began to derail Johnson's career right around the time he teamed with Charles Barkley for the Suns most successful seasons. They pair made it as far as game 6 of the 1993 finals against the Bulls and lost to the eventual champion Rockets in seven each of the next two years but Johnson never chased down that elusive title.

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[SIZE="4"][B][FONT="Book Antiqua"]#98 Marques Johnson[/FONT][/SIZE][/B]
[B]Team(s):[/B] Milwaukee Bucks, Los Angeles Clippers, Golden State Warriors
[B]Years Played:[/B] 1977-1987, 1989-90
[B]Career Numbers: [/B] 20.1 ppg 7.0 rpg 3.6 apg

The original point-forward. Johnson was the third pick of the 1977 draft and primary piece which the Bucks would use to build around after trading Kareem in essence for four role players a few years prior. When he was healthy the former Bruin did an admirable job making Bucks fan forget about the 7'3" two-time MVP gone, but eventually injuries derailed his and the Bucks fortunes. At 6'7", Marques averaged a double-double as a rookie, 26 points per game his second year and won five straight division titles after that including in his fourth season when he led the Bucks to a 60 win season with averages of 20 points 7 rebounds and 5 assists all tops on the team.

Looks interesting so far, GJ :cheers:

Kevin Johnson is ALOT higher than #99. He is Top 50.

[QUOTE=GP_20]Kevin Johnson is ALOT higher than #99. He is Top 50.[/QUOTE]

No way, watch more of the list unfold and you'll see. I could see you arguing him 10-20 spots higher but top 50 is reserved for guys who were elite in their eras and\or won championships and played big on the biggest stage.

Still if you have some reasons why, I'd love to hear them. Which PG's would you compare him to career wise?

[QUOTE=GP_20]Kevin Johnson is ALOT higher than #99. He is Top 50.[/QUOTE]

He had limited seasons at a high play level before injuries and decline, still had three 20-10 seasons :cheers:

When he got hot, he was unstoppable getting to the rim

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[SIZE="4"][B][FONT="Book Antiqua"]#97 Gail Goodrich[/FONT][/SIZE][/B]
[B]Team(s):[/B] Los Angles Lakers, Phoenix Suns, New Orleans Jazz
[B]Years Played:[/B] 1965-1979
[B]Career Numbers: [/B] 18.6 ppg 3.2 rpg 4.7 apg

The first face of Los Angeles Basketball perhaps, Goodrich was the leading scorer on the first two UCLA championship teams in 1964 and ’65 and the Lakers first title since moving to Los Angeles in 1972. Goodrich’ 25.8 points per game average was greater then both those of legends Jerry West and Wilt Chamberlain that season. In all Goodrich was a five-time all-star and an all-NBA 1st team selection in 1974. He averaged more then 20 points a game six times and was a standout at both guard spots over the years.

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[SIZE="4"][B][FONT="Book Antiqua"]#96 Grant Hill[/FONT][/SIZE][/B]
[B]Team(s):[/B] Detroit Pistons, Orlando Magic, Phoenix Suns
[B]Years Played:[/B] 1994-2009
[B]Career Numbers: [/B] 18.5 ppg 6.6 rpg 4.7 apg

Who would have thought as Christian Laettner was running arms raised triumphantly in the air after sinking the infamous turn around shot to beat Kentucky in the regional final that it would not be Laettner but the young man who threw the pass to him that would crack this list nearly 20 years later. But Grant Hill became the best of the Dukies from that era in the pro game. The 1995 co-rookie of the year; he was among the leagues elite in 1998 and a threat for a triple double every night when he played the playoffs on a broken ankle that eventually cost him his career and a chance at being remembered as an all-time great. Still he had a great career. Seven all-stars appearances, five all-NBA selections (1st team in ’97) and a reputation as one of the classiest and most professional guys in the league.

[QUOTE=G.O.A.T]when he played the playoffs on a broken ankle that eventually cost him his career and a chance at being remembered as an all-time great. [/QUOTE]

Shouldn't had played that game 3. His team was destined to be beaten and he wasn't in great form :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=G.O.A.T]That's a major concern and something Houston has to consider when deciding what to do with T-Mac's expiring contract.

If Yao's career ends today is he a top 25 Center All-time?[/QUOTE]


IT would be hard to find 25 centers more ttalneted than Yao but better production let me try

Wilt
Jabbar
Russ
THurmond
Reed
Unseld
Cowens
Walton
Hakeem
DROB
Lambieer
Ewing
ALonzo
Mutombo
George Milkin
The Ed guy the celtics traded for Russ
Moses Malone
Robert parrish
this is off the top of my head and no order but cant think of anyone id rank over Yao at this point but D Howard
I put Ralph sampson and Yao in the same boat injuries and Wlaton over yao cause he did have 1 year that he won a title and helped to win another

[QUOTE=G.O.A.T]No way, watch more of the list unfold and you'll see. I could see you arguing him 10-20 spots higher but top 50 is reserved for guys who were elite in their eras and\or won championships and played big on the biggest stage.

Still if you have some reasons why, I'd love to hear them. Which PG's would you compare him to career wise?[/QUOTE]


Please dont open up that can of worms it will take weeks with him and KJ