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Every championship team is loaded. Pretty stupid to get on his case for that. Although one thing he CAN do to gain more respect is actually have a good NBA Finals in his career. You know, finish the season strong. His 'help' gets talked about more because he always ends up being more helped than other superstars.
[QUOTE=opps]You misunderstood what hes doing. Hes asking the haters who does Kobe have to win with to gain any respect from them.[/QUOTE]
The people who don't respect him.. Won't respect him regardless of how many threads is made.
How many times has a thread like this ended on a positive note?
"Please like / give respect to my idol Kobe" threads just does not work. Just enjoy the game, and if haters want to hate one of the top 10 player of all-time.. it's their problem.
[QUOTE=OriginalNameGuy]he doesn't deserve credit because rings are a team accomplishment
and his performance in the Finals has always been sub-par compared to his regular season #s[/QUOTE]
So, if rings are a team accomplishment,
nobody deserves credit for their championship accolades?
[QUOTE=Timmy D for MVP]Again it is not WHO you play with.
It is being "that guy" you know what I mean? It's extremely hard to quantify. And in truth can be very subjective at times.
Like this Heat team. If they win, what will the legacy be of these guys? Who will be considered that guy?[/QUOTE]
Jordan 5 Losing seasons as "that guy".....1/3 of his career as "that guy" he's been sub .500
your argument is silly
Omg, if kobe win a ring with kwame brown, im going to call kobe G.O.A.T.
[QUOTE=The Iron Fist]:applause:
I thought it was pretty obvious as I wrote it in plain english.[/QUOTE]
And by the way the haters arent gonna answer you. They hate on Kobe for a reason...hell Kobe is not doing something right if hes not being hated on. Its retarded for them to think that they can discredit 5 rings while Magic never won w/o Karrem, Bird w/o McHale & Jordan w/o Pippen. Kobe will go down as one of the greatest no matter what they believe.
[QUOTE=The Iron Fist]"so he isn't all that great even if he has 5 rings".
Ok,
so what players should Kobe win a championship to get proper credit?[/QUOTE]
Win 8 - 10 Finals...then maybe a top 12 perimeter player ever:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Indian guy]Every championship team is loaded. Pretty stupid to get on his case for that. Although one thing he CAN do to gain more respect is actually have a good NBA Finals in his career. You know, finish the season strong. His 'help' gets talked about more because he always ends up being more helped than other superstars.[/QUOTE]
So, you're telling me, that a guy who has two finals MVPS,
didn't have a good NBA finals?
What does that say about the rest of his championship team, the team that lost and the rest of the league?
LOL at Kobe never having a good Finals. I'm out. It looks like the trolls have come to roost.
[QUOTE=opps]And by the way the haters arent gonna answer you. They hate on Kobe for a reason...hell Kobe is not doing something right if hes not being hated on. Its retarded for them to think that they can discredit 5 rings while Magic never won w/o Karrem, Bird w/o McHale & Jordan w/o Pippen. Kobe will go down as one of the greatest no matter what they believe.[/QUOTE]
I know. Like I said, they hate on him because they have female tendencies.
[QUOTE=ImmortalD24]The OP is a baiting dumbass. Stop making threads.
Yes Kobe has had help. /thread
How can someone make a thread like this, after a game we just witnessed? Just does not make sense.. Go to bed clown.[/QUOTE]
dang...you flustered...:oldlol:
[QUOTE=KenneBell]LOL at Kobe never having a good Finals. I'm out. It looks like the trolls have come to roost.[/QUOTE]
:lol
[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]Jordan 5 Losing seasons as "that guy".....1/3 of his career as "that guy" he's been sub .500
your argument is silly[/QUOTE]
Uhh... I guess it would be if he didn't also have 6 championships.
The Kobe/ Anti- Kobe trolls are out in full force.. awesome.
I'm out. If only mods suspended/waived these constant agitators.
Lakers fan: Kobe is a great player and has had a great career. He's potentially a top 10-12 player.
Jordan fan: He's not better than Jordan. Stop saying he's better than Jordan. Jordan has superior stats and Kobe plays with 3 7 footers; I know Lamar Odom technically isn't a 7 footer but he's basically one.
Lakers fan: What are you talking about? No one said Kobe's better than Jordan.
Jordan fan: Troll! Everyone says Kobe's better than Jordan.
A moron enters the thread: Kobe is not better than Jordan. Kobe is not clutch. Dirk is better than Kobe. Nash is better than Kobe. I am better than Kobe. Fact.
A Kobe troll enters the thread: Kobe is better than Jordan. You suck.
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Rinse and repeat.
That's basically ISH.:facepalm