Pat Riley: "No more smiling faces with hidden agendas" (Shots at LBJ)

Miami Heat president Pat Riley took a thinly veiled shot at James on Monday, telling reporters there were "no more smiling faces with hidden agendas" in the Heat organization that could affect his approach to the draft and free agency this offseason.

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teams constantly trade players whenever they want.
thankfully, most of the players have matured these days to know that it is strictly business.
Loyalty BS should be left to immature retarded sports fans who would quit their job the next day if they found a better job.

I love how Riley is mad that he got played the same way he played the knicks in the 90s.

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So funny to see Riley still crying about LeBron doing what Riley offered him from the beginning......an opt out!!

Riley clearly doesn't have the guts to quit crying though

[QUOTE=Kidbasketball20]Miami Heat president Pat Riley took a thinly veiled shot at James on Monday, telling reporters there were "no more smiling faces with hidden agendas" in the Heat organization that could affect his approach to the draft and free agency this offseason.

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stop talking and let this squad ride out into the 2016 summer where our books become pretty empty. Bosh and McBob on the roster, and a new deal to allow big funds to be thrown at a superstar. if we do OK with a revived and injury-free (or as little injury as possible) Heat squad for next season, great...if we don't, make the 2016-17 season a statement when we can truly rely on the big contract deals from the 2016 summer

Riley sounds like a jilted ex. Move on already, grease ball.

Riley shook. lol.

Maybe it's about draft picks.

:confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]teams constantly trade players whenever they want.
thankfully, most of the players have matured these days to know that it is strictly business.
Loyalty BS should be left to immature retarded sports fans who would quit their job the next day if they found a better job.

I love how Riley is mad that he got played the same way he played the knicks in the 90s.[/QUOTE]

Well said. Owners/GM's will uproot a player's home and family with no notice and ship him across the country for cash, then say its 'just business.' Yet if a player leaves of his own choosing under free agency, like he's entitled to do, he's a traitor. Double standard.

[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]teams constantly trade players whenever they want.
thankfully, most of the players have matured these days to know that it is strictly business.
Loyalty BS should be left to immature retarded sports fans who would quit their job the next day if they found a better job.

[B]I love how Riley is mad that he got played the same way he played the knicks in the 90s[/B].[/QUOTE]
[I]"Consider Riley's summer of 1995: after four largely successful years that saw the Knicks come to the brink of a title, the Knicks offered Riley the richest coaching contract in NBA history. Riley got a deal he liked better from Miami, though -- it included a slice of ownership, and total control of the basketball operation.

Riley resigned from the Knicks out of the blue,[B] via fax.[/B] It was cold blooded and conniving enough that the Heat later had to send the Knicks $1 million and a first-round pick to get out of tampering charges.[/I]

[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]teams constantly trade players whenever they want.
thankfully, most of the players have matured these days to know that it is strictly business.
[B]Loyalty BS should be left to immature retarded sports fans who would quit their job the next day if they found a better job. [/B]

I love how Riley is mad that he got played the same way he played the knicks in the 90s.[/QUOTE]


been saying this for years...loyalty and sports are between the fans and their teams, only.

someones mad

I'd be mad too if my team was stuck with two "stars" who have fallen off tremendously in just the past 2-3 years.



The only good thing going for them right now is Whiteside.

Riley's been so fvcking mad the whole year:roll:

Just retire old man, you are a laughing stock of the league

[QUOTE=tmacattack33][B]I'd be mad too if my team[/B] was stuck with two "stars" who have fallen off tremendously in just the past 2-3 years.



The only good thing going for them right now is Whiteside.[/QUOTE]
The Heat IS your team, aren't they?

That's essentially how he left NY. He plays the game but when it comes back at him he's a sensitive little bitch about it.

riley has nothing to complain about considering the hit in reputation lebron took to come play for him for four years and then produce the results that he did.

riley should get down on his hands and knees and thank his maker when something that fortunate comes his way.

[QUOTE=Fudge]The Heat IS your team, aren't they?[/QUOTE]

No I root for players more so than teams. I'm a Cleveland fan now.

This is like sleeping with a girl that has a boyfriend, making her your girlfriend, and then being surprised when she cheats on you.

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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]So funny to see Riley still crying about LeBron doing what Riley offered him from the beginning......an opt out!!

Riley clearly doesn't have the guts to quit crying though[/QUOTE]


Well in defense of riley, lebron did make it seem like he would end his career in Miami when he said

Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4........:lol

[QUOTE=Fudge]The Heat IS your team, aren't they?[/QUOTE]

Well OKC was your team until they didn't make playoffs and now you are a LeBron stan.

[QUOTE=PWB15]Well in defense of riley, lebron did make it seem like he would end his career in Miami when he said

Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4........:lol[/QUOTE]

He meant it would be easy if he keeps switching to stacked teams.

Maybe he was referring to Lebron's wish of Miami drafting Napier and if he was planning to leave anyway, Lebron shouldn't push for Napier.

Preach, Riley.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CJZcVi5BA4[/url]

[QUOTE=LBJ 23]Maybe he was referring to Lebron's wish of Miami drafting Napier and if he was planning to leave anyway, Lebron shouldn't push for Napier.[/QUOTE]
#1 lebron only said he liked him, right? not to mention, riley is not dan gilbert who basically rolls on his back whenever LBJ gives him the command.

#2 doesn't make much sense for lebron to push for a guy anyway if he had already planned to leave. most reasonable scenerio, he simply hadn't decided yet. riley knew there was a big x-factor either way.

[QUOTE=PWB15]Well in defense of riley, lebron did make it seem like he would end his career in Miami when he said

Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4........:lol[/QUOTE]
There's only 2 things guaranteed in life, death and taxes.

[QUOTE=LBJ 23]Maybe he was referring to Lebron's wish of Miami drafting Napier and if he was planning to leave anyway, Lebron shouldn't push for Napier.[/QUOTE]
Brian Windhorst:

"James never told the Heat directly he wanted them to draft Napier. He never talked to Napier about it, in fact he had no relationship with him, unlike numerous other college players he's become friendly with over the years from his annual Nike camps. If the Heat read James' tweets and comments to the media and made an assumption, then that is on them.


If there was a conspiracy, the Cavs didn't seem to be in on it. When free agency started they didn't even have enough salary-cap space available to sign a max player like James. When the Cavs signed Irving to a contract extension on July 1, having James as a teammate was not a part of the pitch.

They were getting ready to make a maximum contract offer sheet either to Gordon Hayward or Chandler Parsons, both small forwards like James, and even flew Hayward in on owner Dan Gilbert's jet. Only when James' agent called looking for a meeting several days into July did the Cavs slam on the brakes, and direct that same jet for South Florida.

They ended up having to make a quick and costly move -- sending out prospect Tyler Zeller and a future first-round pick to get Jarrett Jack off their books -- to make cap room for James.

Pat hates Bran with a passion.

It's so nice getting to see Riley get a taste of his own medicine. Riley is salty as ****, still crying about LeBron while his franchise he's running went fishing early while LeBron wasn't even aware of the comments and said exactly what needed to be said about Riley's comments.

[QUOTE=LeBron James]I don't care about nonsense. There's too much nonsense out there. This is a time where I lock in right now and I don't need nothing creeping into my mind for no reason that don't need to be there. I put all my energy and effort toward this team, that's all that matters.[/QUOTE]

That kinda surprises me from Riley. He seem like a "It was only business..." type. Pat Riley was a striaght up villian in the mid 90s....

He pretty much hit the Knicks with a chair shot and didnt give a shit.

[QUOTE=Meticode]It's so nice getting to see Riley get a taste of his own medicine. Riley is salty as ****, still crying about LeBron while his franchise he's running went fishing early while LeBron wasn't even aware of the comments and said exactly what needed to be said about Riley's comments.[/QUOTE]

Bran shouldve told Riley he had second thoughts, but it seems he went all ghost on the Heat front office; kinda the same way he did when he left the Cavs. It's basically the case of Bran being Bran. when is he going to get a taste of his own medicine?

anyway, this whole drama reeks of an air of two lovers fighting over the same dude. i wish Riley could just move on from this. we've won before Bran and we'll win after him. Bran stopped being of interest to me the moment he left our team

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]That kinda surprises me from Riley. He seem like a "It was only business..." type. Pat Riley was a striaght up villian in the mid 90s....

He pretty much hit the Knicks with a chair shot and didnt give a shit.[/QUOTE]

Business is Business. But it's hard not to take it personal when you're asked to fly across the country to meet like its a genuine meet up, meanwhile a "Coming Home" essay has already been drafted out with a Sports Illustrated writer lol.

Smiling faces. Hidden agendas.


Also, the Knicks were going to let Riley out of his contract anyway. There was a significant power struggle there, and the Knicks president foolishly sided with their GM over Riley.

[QUOTE=Crimsonrain777]When is he going to get a taste of his own medicine?[/QUOTE]
He already has. He has a past of trading away Heat players like the Mournings and Hardaways to win now, onyl to get them back later working in the team. Haslem will probbaly get traded before he retires and do the same and come back. It's just funny LeBron does the same thing, but in reverse. He got what he wanted from the Heat, championship pedigree and rings and left. Hence, taste of his own medicine.

[QUOTE=gigantes]#1 lebron only said he liked him, right? [B]not to mention, riley is not dan gilbert who basically rolls on his back whenever LBJ gives him the command.[/B]

#2 doesn't make much sense for lebron to push for a guy anyway if he had already planned to leave. most reasonable scenerio, he simply hadn't decided yet. riley knew there was a big x-factor either way.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure Riley would have rolled whichever direction LeBron asked him to when it looked like he was beginning to slip away over the summer.

And, no doubt in my mind the Heat picking Napier was heavily influenced by LeBron's tweets... which speaks to how just how much power he had there.

James was always pretty open about the fact that he saw himself back in Cleveland at some point. Most people -- myself included -- didn't think it would happen this quickly, but it didn't seem like a secret that he planned to finish his career here eventually.

He started to talk about it in the press as early as 2012.

February 2012:
[QUOTE]James said he made a mistake in the way he left Cleveland and could see himself playing for the Cavaliers again. Not even Jeremy Lin could top that news on Thursday.

"I think it would be great," James said after the Heat's practice at The Q in preparation for tonight's game against the Cavs. "It would be fun to play in front of these fans again. I had a lot fun times in my seven years here. You can't predict the future, and hopefully I continue to stay healthy. I'm here as a Miami Heat player, and I'm happy where I am now, but I don't rule that out in no sense.

[B]"And if I decide to come back[/B], hopefully the fans will accept me."

This discussion actually started a few weeks ago when former Plain Dealer reporter Brian Windhorst, now working for ESPN.com, suggested in a local radio interview that he could see James returning. This was the first time James was asked about that in Cleveland, and his candid responses took reporters by surprise. [/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2012/02/lebron_james_says_he_could_see.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Meticode]He already has. He has a past of trading away Heat players like the Mournings and Hardaways to win now, onyl to get them back later working in the team. Haslem will probbaly get traded before he retires and do the same and come back. It's just funny LeBron does the same thing, but in reverse. He got what he wanted from the Heat, championship pedigree and rings and left. Hence, taste of his own medicine.[/QUOTE]

if those players end up coming back and working for the Heat organization. that show's loyalty on the part of Riley. but anyway, my question was addressed to Lebron. he's become notorious for not letting his intentions known til the last minute when teams are unable to plan for it. he's done it to the Cavs and now the Heat

[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]teams constantly trade players whenever they want.
thankfully, most of the players have matured these days to know that it is strictly business.
Loyalty BS should be left to immature retarded sports fans who would quit their job the next day if they found a better job.

I love how Riley is mad that he got played the same way he played the knicks in the 90s.[/QUOTE]


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[QUOTE=Crimsonrain777]if those players end up coming back and working for the Heat organization. that show's loyalty on the part of Riley. but anyway, my question was addressed to Lebron. he's become notorious for not letting his intentions known til the last minute when teams are unable to plan for it. he's done it to the Cavs and now the Heat[/QUOTE]
Agreed.

He handled his exit far better in Miami than he did in Cleveland... because it is literally impossible to do it any worse than he did the first time around. But, I still thought it was ridiculous the way he held the entire FA class and the NBA hostage for a week when it was obvious to everyone he was coming back.

It was a very open secret that he was coming back to Cleveland at least 10 days before the announcement. This idea that he waited until the last minute to decide either in 2010 or 2014 is truly ridiculous. I said it at the time, too.

Then again, it shouldn't surprise anyone. LBJ is a notorious attention whore. A lot of guys shy away from the spotlight. LeBron lives for it. That is a valid reason, imo, for the Miami organization and their fans to harbor some ill will. Now, what he did to the Cavs... that was comically bad. It felt like he took a 100-mile detour just to kick the city in the nuts. I'm sure that wasn't his intention, but holy sh!t.

Things worked out for the best in the end, but that will always live in infamy when it comes to how athletes should NOT to handle their departure.

crying that the guy that quit on his team Cavs vs celtics so that he could go to the heat win championships, left his team to go to a more talented team.


Priceless, just priceless.

Not going even to mention the breaking the rules collusion.

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ditto :D

Why do the morons in this thread not realise this has not to do with him leaving , but with [I]how[/I] he left, which was typical Bron - i.e. being an asshole to people who had your back, not telling them of your intentions, leaving them in uncertainty and in a poor position to plan for the future.

When Riley said "No more smiling faces with hidden agendas" he was talking specifically about having to build last summer without knowing about LeBron. Not hard to understand why this is a cuntish thing to do to a team and management that has brought you great success - in fact, it looks like a downright attempt to sabotage the competition.

It's the same shit he pulled in Cleveland, except no one cares because he wrote that pathetic and egomanaical letter :lol.