It's up to Jokic and Embiid to prove it.
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It's up to Jokic and Embiid to prove it.
Dude hasn't even made an All Star team yet.
[QUOTE=Wally450]Dude hasn't even made an All Star team yet.[/QUOTE]
He's deserved it twice and been all NBA twice to go with his two straight DPOTY and all defensive teams
[QUOTE=Wally450]Dude hasn't even made an All Star team yet.[/QUOTE]
Which proves how irrelevant that is.
American basketball has destroyed the center position.
Gobert should be an all-star every year.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]He's deserved it twice and been all NBA twice to go with his two straight DPOTY and all defensive teams[/QUOTE]
Deserved all star spots is resume worthy now?
I'm sorry. Gobert is deserving as a yearly all-star lock and is easily a top 15 player in the league, but I saw what Jokic did in the playoffs.
[QUOTE=NugzFan]Deserved all star spots is resume worthy now?[/QUOTE]
Just saying he's an star rather the fans or coaches realize there is more to the game than points or not.
How many times has Cousins been an all-star? Who would want him on their team over Gobert? :lol
1. Gobert
2. Jokic
3. EmChoke :lol
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]Just saying he's an star rather the fans or coaches realize there is more to the game than points or not.
How many times has Cousins been an all-star? Who would want him on their team over Gobert? :lol[/QUOTE]
What kind of weird logic is that?
And if he doesn
[QUOTE=NugzFan]What kind of weird logic is that?
And if he doesn
[QUOTE=90sgoat]It's up to Jokic and Embiid to prove it.[/QUOTE]
Didn't see the game. How good was he?
The Rockets have made him look average two postseasons in a row. That much I do know.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You]OK he is not an all star just all -NBA and DPOTY and All defense and the guy carrying a top 5 team in the west the past 4 plus years :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
You mean like listing his actual achievements instead of making up arbitrary ones?
Yeah that works.
I really like Gobert. Has a huge impact. Just difficult to be the best player at your position when you can't be the focal point as a scorer. He averaged like 11/11 in the playoffs while blocking 2.6 shots per game. He actually played slightly less minutes in the playoffs.
I'm not even trying to be biased. I think Embiid talent wise is right there with Jokic. I won't argue against it. Jokic just averaged 25/13/8/1/1 on 59% TS with only 2.6 TO's per game and was 1 game away from the WCF. He helped Denver finished 2nd in the Western Conference with no other All-Stars. Murray has that potential .. but he isn't there yet. Embiid had Harris, Butler, Simmons etc. Gobert has Mitchell. What Jokic did this year was really underrated.
I just don't see the argument for Gobert above Jokic. Even defensively Jokic improved alot this year. He was really good in the playoffs, specifically vs S.A. Gobert struggled defensively being forced to switch vs Houston. In game 4 Utah's only win Gobert played 24 minutes and scored 4 points.
Jokic has the ability to carry an entire offense. Gobert can't do that. While Gobert can anchor a defense, Jokic is no longer a terrible defender. The gap offensively has a far bigger impact than the gap defensively.