The Four Permanent Members of G.O.A.T. Discussion

Wilt? :roll: :roll:
:facepalm

[QUOTE=Sarcastic]They played 5 on 5, not 1 on 1. In just the H2H matchups, Wilt pretty much trounced him almost all the time. So Russell did not beat the Wilt. The Celtics beat the Warriors.[/QUOTE]
oh lord one of these people. Spare me

Love ya Wilt and Russell... but real talk, my top 4 are

[B]Jordan
Kareem
Magic
Bird[/B]

in that order

[QUOTE=hops and stops]No Kobe Bryant?? I dont like this list.

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Kobe's career isn't finished yet - and this isn't a list of the "only" GOAT candidates, it's the ones that IH members keep habitually leaving out of discussions because they just don't bother to go back that far in time in NBA history and understand the "greatness" these guys have (well, Jordan is pretty well understood). These four need to be permanently in the discussions for GOAT yet 15-30 year old IH member's don't really have a good gauge on them even if they think they do. Anyone who dismisses any one of these guys needs to really do a lot more research on NBA history and the impact these guys made and the [I]success[/I] they had even if their name was Wilt Chamberlain.

Good thread, but I feel compelled to correct you. There are only 3 players worthy of GOAT consideration; Jordan, Russell, and the guy you inexplicably left out - the one who saved Kareem's legacy, Magic Johnson.

Wilts post season failures disqualify him from the discussion. Yes, some weren't his fault, but there were a little too many for my liking. He may be the most dominant ever, but that doesn't make him the best.

[QUOTE=BGriffin's Dad]Love ya Wilt and Russell... but real talk, my top 4 are

[B]Jordan
Kareem
Magic
Bird[/B]

in that order[/QUOTE]

Doesn't know anything about the NBA before the 1980's :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=oolalaa]Good thread, but I feel compelled to correct you. There are only 3 players worthy of GOAT discussion; Jordan, Russell, and the guy you inexplicably left out - the one who saved Kareem's legacy, Magic Johnson.

Wilts post season failures disqualify him from the discussion. Yes, some weren't his fault, but there were a little too many for my liking. He may be the most dominant ever, but that doesn't make him the best.[/QUOTE]

Kareem had a dominant legacy started before he ever dawned a Laker's Jersey.

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He won as finals MVP w/o Magic - he has more rings than Magic

This is the problem - not one person who leaves these guys out seems to understand [I]anything [/I] about the NBA before the 1980's. At least say so if that's the case. If your GOAT list is based on you going back to a certain point in NBA years than fine - but your excluding guys that have done way more than Magic Johnson... IE Kareem

So much stupid it hurts. Kobe and Magic above Wilt? GTFO. Now.

How is Chamberlain above Johnson, Bird, O'Neal, Bryant, Duncan, and Mikan?
Explain please with facts not tall tales

I would personally have Magic ahead of Wilt but good read none the less.

[QUOTE=HurricaneKid]So much stupid it hurts. Kobe and Magic above Wilt? GTFO. Now.[/QUOTE]
Wilt played in an inferior era and only won 2 championships

Magic - 5 championships
Kobe - 5 championships
Mikan - 5 championships
Duncan - 4 championships
Sahq - 4 championships
Bird - 3 championships

I'm sorry regular season stats in a inferior era doesn't make up for his failures in the Playoffs

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[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Kareem had a dominant legacy before he ever dawned a Laker's Jersey.

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This is the problem - not one person who leaves this guys out seems to know [I]anything [/I]about the NBA before the 1980's[/QUOTE]

lmao :roll:

So I don't know anything about the NBA before the 80s?? I just said to you, I have Russell firmly in the GOAT discussion AND I rank Jerry West above Kobe.


Kareem had a dominant legacy before Magic arrived?

He won 1 ring and missed the playoffs 2 years in a row.....in his absolute prime. He was clearly the best/most dominant player throughout the leagues weakest era (post 50s). He didn't translate that domination into as much team success as you'd expect.

He was struggling to lead his team to the conference finals in the late 70s and was getting blown out when he got there. And in case you forgot, the year Magic arrived, L.A won the title.

Ye, he won 5 MVPs, but I'm sure his career would be looked at as a disappointment if Magic didn't come along when he did.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]How is Chamberlain above Johnson, Bird, O'Neal, Bryant, Duncan, and Mikan?
Explain please with facts not tall tales[/QUOTE]

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It isn't a "complete" and closed list - it isn't in order - it's just players who IH members like yourself don't care about or consider but probably should. You can have whoever you want as your GOAT - the four I listed are players that should be in the discussion in addition to them - that is all.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]How is Chamberlain above Johnson, Bird, O'Neal, Bryant, Duncan, and Mikan?
Explain please with facts not tall tales[/QUOTE]

If Wilt isn't above them..Russell isn't as well. And don't tell me Mikan. In his time people were thinking tall players can't play basketball :roll: