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OFFICIAL: Lakers hire Mike D'Antoni
i hope this works out.
[QUOTE]The Los Angeles Lakers have hired Mike D'Antoni as their next head, sources told ESPN.
According to the Los Angeles Times, the deal is for four years.
D'Antoni won't be available until later in the week, after he's medically cleared following knee replacement surgery, a source told ESPN.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8622773/mike-dantoni-hired-next-coach-los-angeles-lakers-sources-say[/url]
[url]http://www.nba.com/lakers/releases/121112lakers-hire-mike-dantoni[/url]
[QUOTE]Lakers spokesman John Black confirmed on Sunday night that the team has signed Mike D'Antoni to a multi-year contract.
The team is expected to have a press conference to announce the deal most likely on Tuesday or Wednesday of the coming week.
According to Black, Lakers owner Dr. Jerry Buss, executive vice president Jim Buss and general manager Mitch Kupchak were unanimous that D'Antoni was the best coach for the team at this time.
Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash both expressed support for the idea of playing for D'Antoni, who was Nash's coach in Phoenix when the point guard won consecutive MVP awards in 2005 and 2006.[/QUOTE]
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sad day :facepalm I hope they know what they are doing...oh well...maybe the end of the ring era.
Looks like no championship this year...oh well, no need to beat dishnetwork to sign the deal with twc
If they fail to achieve a championship this year, the fans will have reasons to hate Jimmy even more and mark the end of Phil of coming back to Lakers AND Howard may not resign with D'Antoni. It looks like Howard was hoping for Phil too based on the post-game interview. This also means other team would try to pick Phil up now that they know he is available. It would funny as hell if Phil get picked up by Clippers later to challenge Lakers or whatever Howard goes to.
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i am no fan of Dantoni, but one thing i like is that he will speed up the game. Sessions strengths were vasted by MB last year and now we have Nash and Howard and the Lakers were walking the ball up the court... :banghead:
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[QUOTE=L.A. Jazz]i am no fan of Dantoni, but one thing i like is that he will speed up the game. Sessions strengths were vasted by MB last year and now we have Nash and Howard and the Lakers were walking the ball up the court... :banghead:[/QUOTE]
If they waste this year, Howard may not return. Neither will Phil now that Lakers made this decision. Lets hope Phil made decision first instead of Lakers... I guess we will know more details soon. If they don't win this year...they will lose many Lakers fan including PJax fan.
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D'Antoni might be a great choice... Our defence is better than
our offense at this point, and D'Antoni is an offensive guru.
And he knows Nash's skills so well, he'll get the most out of him
when he's back....
:applause: :D
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D'Antoni :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :facepalm
WTF is wrong with our Ownership.....did Jerry let Jimmy make the decision again?
And why the rush to sign him? Why not continue negotiating with Phil for the rest of the week.....D'Antoni just had surgery and can't coach for 10 days.
This reminds me of the idiotic rush to sign Mike Brown. And WHY OH WHY 4 year contract.....how did that work last time???
This guy is to Defense what Mike Brown was to Offense :facepalm
Did ownership forget that the Showtime Lakers focused on defense and rebounds in addition to running?
An older Nash and Kobe cannot fly up the court shooting in 7 seconds for a season without fading in the 4th and in the playoffs.
Geez.....has sanity fled this organization?
Ugh.....I don't know who makes worse head coaching decisions.....my Raiders, My Dodgers or my Lakers......yeah, it's that bad. ....UGH!!!!!!!!!
There is a reason D'Antoni has never been to the NBA finals.
I would've given Phil anything he wanted except part ownership....and would've extended the negotiation.......I'm so very pissed!!!
Wow......Just heard Stephen A. Smith rail on the selection of D'Antoni worse than I just did.....he added some big time facts....D'Antoni's teams were always in the bottom 4 in the league in defense,
Skip just called it a disaster of a signing. They said they are sure Jimmy made the decision.
They are blowing up the signing worse than I did.
Apparently Steve Kerr tried to get D'Antoni to coach some defense and he said he'd rather leave than change....so he goes to N.Y and continues to be in the bottom 4 in defense.
Stephen A. just called Jimmy Buss a problem for the team and said his people tell him the same thing.......just as I have been telling everyone.
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Stephen A. Smith on D'Antoni signing;
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM8SHzQ6Q6A[/url]
This is the one without Skip...but still just as harsh and true.
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[QUOTE]Wow......Just heard Stephen A. Smith rail on the selection of D'Antoni worse than I just did.....he added some big time facts....D'Antoni's teams were always in the bottom 4 in the league in defense,[/QUOTE]
He's just spewing shit, that is something he made up.
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D'Antoni said he didn't want anyone to post up because it clogs the lane, this is why Amare never learned any post up moves, he said this is why he went to learn post moves and defense from Hakeem.......we have Dwight.....why did we hire this guy :facepalm :banghead:
This is going to end badly!!!!!
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[QUOTE=ZenMaster]He's just spewing shit, that is something he made up.[/QUOTE]
So....he made up facts that are well known throughout the NBA and are very easy to look up???? Uh.....sure :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
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Really excited about this move. Can't comment now. I'm driving. You'll hear my analysis tonight when I return. Try not to start a riot before I Grr back dk okay? :)
*from my android*
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[QUOTE=lakerfreak]Really excited about this move. Can't comment now. I'm driving. You'll hear my analysis tonight when I return. Try not to start a riot before I Grr back dk okay? :)
*from my android*[/QUOTE]
Oh boy.....I can't wait to hear this :rolleyes:
:oldlol:
The team will at least be exciting.....but that's as far as it goes.
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Nash is going to have a field day with D’Antoni as coach, so I'm pretty optimistic about that since he was struggling before he got injured. If the Lakers can show they can play D, then this might work. Offense will take care of itself. Not my first choice but I'll reserve my judgement.
"Mike D'Antoni expected to reach out to fellow USA assistant Nate McMillan as potential defensive assistant, league source tells"
Get it DONE.
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I'm hoping Nate is signed.
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I can just imagine what Phil Jackson said:
"I want 10 million a year and I want to coach all out of town games from my couch. I'll call my assistant coaches on my cell phone and tell them what to do." hahaha
The biggest downside of this hire is that my buddy DK is going to gripe, whine and bitch about it the entire season! In DK's words:
:banghead:
hahahahahaha Just joking DK.
I'm leaving town tomorrow until Xmas so I won't be able to check in as often. DK, I suspect upon hearing this news that you will be saddened but do try and get along without me. Have a great Thanksgiving guys!
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I think i am ok with the Mike D'Antoni signing.
Phil reached and thought the lakers were freaking needy to go to him and Dr Buss B1tch slapped him. I trust Dr Jerry Buss, Mitch & Jim buss(after this summer) more now then last year
Phil Wanted:
Stake in ownership or 10-12 mil
wanted to coach only home games
wanted to have a say in personal moves the lakers were making.
basically Phil wanted Jim/Mitch to hand him the key to the franchise. Which i say Fcuk NO.
Mike D is talking about bringing Nate Mcmilan as his top assistant and planning on retaining Chuck P & Steve Clifford. Which is a good idea
I would like to see this before giving my opinion on this.
I trust in Jerry Buss.
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[QUOTE=mr sax]I can just imagine what Phil Jackson said:
"I want 10 million a year and I want to coach all out of town games from my couch. I'll call my assistant coaches on my cell phone and tell them what to do." hahaha
The biggest downside of this hire is that my buddy DK is going to gripe, whine and bitch about it the entire season! In DK's words:
:banghead:
hahahahahaha Just joking DK.
I'm leaving town tomorrow until Xmas so I won't be able to check in as often. DK, I suspect upon hearing this news that you will be saddened but do try and get along without me. Have a great Thanksgiving guys![/QUOTE]
LMAO...that was pretty funny :roll: :roll: :roll:
See, I like this Mr.Sax much better :D
Have a very Happy Thanksgiving :cheers:
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[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]I think i am ok with the Mike D'Antoni signing.
Phil reached and thought the lakers were freaking needy to go to him and Dr Buss B1tch slapped him. I trust Dr Jerry Buss, Mitch & Jim buss(after this summer) more now then last year
Phil Wanted:
Stake in ownership or 10-12 mil
wanted to coach only home games
wanted to have a say in personal moves the lakers were making.
basically Phil wanted Jim/Mitch to hand him the key to the franchise. Which i say Fcuk NO.
Mike D is talking about bringing Nate Mcmilan as his top assistant and planning on retaining Chuck P & Steve Clifford. Which is a good idea
I would like to see this before giving my opinion on this.
I trust in Jerry Buss.[/QUOTE]
I get where you are coming from HOWEVER......
How much money has Phil meant to this Lakers franchise?
Stake in ownership....I would say no to anything above 1% at the point that we have pushed all our money into the center of the table.....what's the big deal to pay him even up to $20 million a year? Is he less valuable than Kobe?
Pau is getting $18 million this year....is HE worth more than PJ :no: :no: :no:
Better yet, coaches salary doesn't count against the cap.....so Pau is really costing us $36 million....and we don''t want to pay Phil????? :facepalm
Phil not coaching the road games? I don't think it makes much difference as long as the assistant knows the system and Phil was coaching all Playoff games. Phil is 1000000000 x > 'Antoni ( No D :oldlol: ).
This is like turning down sleeping with Kim Kardashian for 6 months out of a year in favor of sleeping with Rosie O'Donnell for the full year :oldlol:
Having a say in team personnel.....is this really a problem? He has always had a say in his own way, he didn't like rookies so we drafted and he wouldn't play them RIGHT. So he had control in his own way.....what is the real problem here? He want's to get players he can actually use???? Do you think he would seek out Smush Parker and Kwame to come back in trades??? What's the worst that could happen??? Ok.....so he'd bring back Luke, that's just 1 guy.
I trust in Jerry Buss too.....but Jerry didn't do this...this is clearly a Jimmy move.
What I see happening is that within 2 years 'Antoni will be out and we will be paying him $$$ for nothing just like we are paying the remainder of Brown's contract EXACTLY AS I SAID WE WOULD from the day we signed him.
3 years from now we will be paying 'Antoni, Brown and the next coach who comes in.....how is that cost effective???
I mean damn, there were good viable candidates out there who would've better fit this team.....hell, Dunleavy would have even been better.
At least 'Antoni does know basketball and is not an idiot...but his ideas will never be successful in the NBA and will most likely lead to a Dwight exit after the season. We will not catch Boston in titles....not anytime soon.
I have loved my Lakers since 1960 and this is the biggest fiasco since the Shaq trade.....maybe biggest ever considering how freaking much talent we have.
I took a whole ton of heat when I said this about Mike Brown, I expect to take even more heat about this now.......but just like with Brown you will all realize that I am right........but hey, at least the team should be exciting.
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I was really bummed to read this new this morning. I really would've liked McMillan to be the head coach and for D'antoni to be the assistant, but it looks like it will be the other way around. If we land McMillan too, it won't be so bad. I just don't see what the Lakers management is thinking when they are hiring coaches.
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the main fault was to hire MB so unnecessary fast! and now again the same hurry. i dont understand it.
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This is interesting....
[QUOTE]Peter Vecsey: How surprised were Jackson's people? Agent Brian Musberger was on Chicago-2-LA plane 2 negotiate w Lakers re contract when D'A was hired. Twitter @PeterVecsey1[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DKLaker]So....he made up facts that are well known throughout the NBA and are very easy to look up???? Uh.....sure :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Yes he did.
I just looked up one example and in 07 Phoenix was ranked 13th in defense...
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2007.html"]http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2007.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=L.A. Jazz]the main fault was to hire MB so unnecessary fast! and now again the same hurry. i dont understand it.[/QUOTE]
This was rash, impulsive Jimmy Buss at work once again :banghead:
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[QUOTE=dd24]This is interesting....[/QUOTE]
I saw that this morning too on LA Times and another where Phil was stunned.
Many Lakers fan are stunned.
They didn't even bother negotiate to curb Phil's requests. This is still about anti-Phil.
If this turn out to be another failure experiment and wasted this year or next. Definitely Phil won't be coming back to answer them.
If I were Phil now, I probably take other team offers then Lakers won't be having the last laugh and D'Antoni won't be having smooth sailing either.
I think this experiment will fail again.
7 seconds or less won't work. It didn't work with Carmelo. It probably won't with Kobe too.
If Kobe became Carmelo, what can DAntoni do? Quit again?
Kobe and Nash don't have fresh legs anymore. Even if they could, they probably won't have much energy near the end of the game.
7 seconds or less system could get Nash hurt 7 seconds or less.
Dwight Defensive strength will probably get rusty overtime
You don't have that many sharp shooter on the current roster
DAntoni couldn't handle 1 mega stars, how can he handle 3 more?
DAntoni himself is sensitive to criticism when he should be neutral to it.
If this whole thing fail, they will lose a number amount of Lakers fans.
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[QUOTE=ZenMaster]Yes he did.
I just looked up one example and in 07 Phoenix was ranked 13th in defense...
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2007.html"]http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2007.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
Look at the opponent PPG
Anyone who knows the game can tell you that his teams don't play Defense.....even owners, gm's and players who were involved with him have stated this........apparently you missed all this......it's just like arguing that water is wet :facepalm
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[QUOTE=kobesabi]I saw that this morning too on LA Times and another where Phil was stunned.
Many Lakers fan are stunned.
They didn't even bother negotiate to curb Phil's requests. This is still about anti-Phil.
If this turn out to be another failure experiment and wasted this year or next. Definitely Phil won't be coming back to answer them.
If I were Phil now, I probably take other team offers then Lakers won't be having the last laugh and D'Antoni won't be having smooth sailing either.
I think this experiment will fail again.
7 seconds or less won't work. It didn't work with Carmelo. It probably won't with Kobe too.
Kobe and Nash don't have fresh legs anymore. Even if they could, they probably won't have much energy near the end of the game.
7 seconds or less system could get Nash hurt 7 seconds or less.
Dwight Defensive strength will probably get rusty overtime
You don't have that many sharp shooter on the current roster[/QUOTE]
Oh you right......and these guys will find out soon enough.
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[QUOTE=DKLaker]Look at the opponent PPG
Anyone who knows the game can tell you that his teams don't play Defense.....even owners, gm's and players who were involved with him have stated this........apparently you missed all this......it's just like arguing that water is wet :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Defensive rating is more important than opponent ppg..
And even in opponent ppg they weren't 4th last..
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[QUOTE=ZenMaster]Defensive rating is more important than opponent ppg..
And even in opponent ppg they weren't 4th last..[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter what you say, this crap is going to fail just as Mike Brown did, I was 100% correct then and have not an ounce of doubt that I am correct again......everyone knows his system will never work in the NBA playoffs.
The playoffs are about defense, rebounding and halfcourt offense......'Antoni is terrible at all of these.
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[QUOTE=ZenMaster]Yes he did.
I just looked up one example and in 07 Phoenix was ranked 13th in defense...
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2007.html"]http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2007.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
Stephen A was using PPG which is wrong.
The Suns played at a high pace leading to more possessions per game so scoring would naturally go up on both ends of the court. You have to adjust PPG by possessions to get a true rating which has the Suns at the 13th spot you linked to.
It is Stephen A Smith after all, never one to be shy about bending the facts to make his points. Arguing with Skip Bayless overtime will do that to you
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[QUOTE=DKLaker]Doesn't matter what you say, this crap is going to fail just as Mike Brown did, I was 100% correct then and have not an ounce of doubt that I am correct again......everyone knows his system will never work in the NBA playoffs.
The playoffs are about defense, rebounding and halfcourt offense......'Antoni is terrible at all of these.[/QUOTE]
Maybe so, but there is a point to calling you and Stephen A out when trying to sell people on stats that are simply not true.
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[QUOTE=ZenMaster]Maybe so, but there is a point to calling you and Stephen A out when trying to sell people on stats that are simply not true.[/QUOTE]
I am saying that the stats ARE true....but as with all stats, they do not tell the whole story.....this is why you have to watch the game and UNDERSTAND what you are seeing other than the obvious........this comes with experience.
We could go back and forth on this but the main point is that he doesn't believe in defense and runs a system that doesn't work in the NBA beyond the early rounds of the playoffs....and that is with personnel that fits his system.....we don't have players to fit his system.......too old, not enough shooters.
I'll say this, just as I did about Brown....I HOPE I am completely wrong and we win multiple championships....I would very happily take all the laughs and critique from you guys.....unfortunately I know better.
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[QUOTE=DKLaker]I am saying that the stats ARE true....but as with all stats, they do not tell the whole story.....this is why you have to watch the game and UNDERSTAND what you are seeing other than the obvious........this comes with experience.
We could go back and forth on this but the main point is that he doesn't believe in defense and runs a system that doesn't work in the NBA beyond the early rounds of the playoffs....and that is with personnel that fits his system.....we don't have players to fit his system.......too old, not enough shooters.
I'll say this, just as I did about Brown....I HOPE I am completely wrong and we win multiple championships....I would very happily take all the laughs and critique from you guys.....unfortunately I know better.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't saying one thing or another, just that you are lying about the stats.
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[QUOTE=ZenMaster]I wasn't saying one thing or another, just that you are lying about the stats.[/QUOTE]
Argumentative person aren't you :oldlol: Nobody was lying about the stats at all and I am not going to waste my time over such drivel, nor engage on meaningless name calling with someone who doesn't get the point.
Think what you want to think, learn what you want to learn.....or not I really don't care. Now if you actually have some basketball knowledge to share I will certainly listen :oldlol:
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Mike D is much much better then potato head.
I think I will have to watch couple of games with Mike D to have an opinion of me.
The Suns were unlucky team...they could have won 1 if things went their way ...like they did for the mavs....
we shall see...
honestly its easy to say..give him part of the ownership/let him coach only homes games/ have him say on personals moves...but i personally dont like it...
Phil wanted Rush over Prince
May over bynum
I am still pissed but I totally understand where the lakers came from.
Freaking if spolstra can win championship....so can Mike D....
its players league and always will be....nash, Kobe having history with mike D also helps
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[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]Mike D is much much better then potato head.
I think I will have to watch couple of games with Mike D to have an opinion of me.
The Suns were unlucky team...they could have won 1 if things went their way ...like they did for the mavs....
we shall see...
honestly its easy to say..give him part of the ownership/let him coach only homes games/ have him say on personals moves...but i personally dont like it...
Phil wanted Rush over Prince
May over bynum
I am still pissed but I totally understand where the lakers came from.
Freaking if spolstra can win championship....so can Mike D....
its players league and always will be....nash, Kobe having history with mike D also helps[/QUOTE]
Coach Spo is not a good coach.....I agree BUT, at least he understands that you have to play both offense and defense....not just 1 of those. That is why 'Antoni is dangerous.
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[QUOTE=DKLaker]Coach Spo is not a good coach.....I agree BUT, at least he understands that you have to play both offense and defense....not just 1 of those. That is why 'Antoni is dangerous.[/QUOTE]
hmm....there are already rumors that Nate McMilan will be coming along as a lead Assistant that will help
Also Steve Clifford(SVG asked MikeD to keep him around) & Chuck Persons might hang around too so we will see...
Media is fcuking clueless as we are...they are just like headless chicken's mutha fcuka's dont know anything....keep on saying...Phil, Phil & Phil
1 thing i learnt is take everything related to "Source" with a bag of salt
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[QUOTE=DKLaker]Argumentative person aren't you :oldlol: Nobody was lying about the stats at all and I am not going to waste my time over such drivel, nor engage on meaningless name calling with someone who doesn't get the point.
Think what you want to think, learn what you want to learn.....or not I really don't care. Now if you actually have some basketball knowledge to share I will certainly listen :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Saying nobody is lying about the stats is very thick skinned, I do get your point though.
Personally I think it can go either way.
IMO people who think the Lakers will play nearly as fast as his Phoenix teams did are wrong, he's toned it down since and it's not SSOL anymore, he's toned down the pace accordingly to his personnel and last year Knicks where the 4th slowest team in the regular season. A lot of the games he's being judged on are 5-6 years old, most coaches can develop quite a bit in that time frame hell I'm quite a better coach today than I was just 1 year ago.
I think it's a good sign he's looking into having someone else handling the defense for the most part, reports are one Mcmillan who's team have been pretty good in transition D which is a key for us.
Assistant coaches are some of the most underrated people in basketball, all responsibility is on the head coach but these guys spend just as much or more time with the players, having a strong figure with HC experience like Mcmillan is nice.
I think D'Antoni has pretty good half court offense, good sets that offer good chance for ball movement and spacing along with the pickn'roll he's good at teaching.
If we don't have the shooters we don't have the shooters, all the best playoff teams have good shooters and the last two champions just straight up bombed from distance even though they said you could never win from the 3pt line. We won't win the title on Dwight ISO post ups if he only shoots 50-60% from the line, players and the ball need to be moving and attacking.
D'Antonis system offers a good chance for shooters to be succesful, if Meeks, Jamison, Blake and Artest are going to clonk 3's they didn't other places in their career we aren't going to win no matter what sytem we run, not in 2013 NBA.
Artest haven't really shot well since his thumb injury but Meeks and Blake were very good 3pt shooters on other teams, Jamison has been okay as well, these guys have to pick up their shit on open shots because they will be getting them, throw Gasol in that mix he's also been missing too many open jumpers.
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i dont get why they gave him a 4 year deal.... why not team options for the last 2 years like players get.
as for phil i am not sure of all the demands. maybe it was not to go to back to back road games i dont see how he could he ask to skip all of them. as for money give him a kicker for how deep into the play offs he gets. wins the champ give him the 12-15m it would have been worth it.
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[QUOTE=Lakers_Kobe_Fan]
Media is fcuking clueless as we are...they are just like headless chicken's mutha fcuka's dont know anything....keep on saying...Phil, Phil & Phil
1 thing i learnt is take everything related to "Source" with a bag of salt[/QUOTE]
I think you might have a point there. If you watch espn, look at how nuts they are going over this. If somebody had no idea who Phil or D'Antoni or nba was, they would think that there is some huge major controversy going. It's obvious that they want to absolutely hype this up and juice it out..
Gotten to the point that some idiots in media manufactured this whole "Phil didn't want to coach any of the away games" and "wanted to control every Laker roster move" and "wanted part ownership" along with other garbage.... where the hell did all that come from?
Phil said they didn't even talk about contract specifics in the Jimmy/Mitch/Phil meeting on Saturday morning. Kurt Rambis also said neither of it is true and was never discussed. Phil's agent said that he went to LA on Sunday evening to negotiate the contract and said that neither of those two things were even talked about. The Lakers did NOT refute anything that Phil/Rambis/his agent said. If they were lying, wouldn't lakers have refuted it by now?
It's obviously somebody in the media made up that nonsense and they all started using it. What a joke.
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[QUOTE=ZenMaster]Saying nobody is lying about the stats is very thick skinned, I do get your point though.
Personally I think it can go either way.
IMO people who think the Lakers will play nearly as fast as his Phoenix teams did are wrong, he's toned it down since and it's not SSOL anymore, he's toned down the pace accordingly to his personnel and last year Knicks where the 4th slowest team in the regular season. A lot of the games he's being judged on are 5-6 years old, most coaches can develop quite a bit in that time frame hell I'm quite a better coach today than I was just 1 year ago.
I think it's a good sign he's looking into having someone else handling the defense for the most part, reports are one Mcmillan who's team have been pretty good in transition D which is a key for us.
Assistant coaches are some of the most underrated people in basketball, all responsibility is on the head coach but these guys spend just as much or more time with the players, having a strong figure with HC experience like Mcmillan is nice.
I think D'Antoni has pretty good half court offense, good sets that offer good chance for ball movement and spacing along with the pickn'roll he's good at teaching.
If we don't have the shooters we don't have the shooters, all the best playoff teams have good shooters and the last two champions just straight up bombed from distance even though they said you could never win from the 3pt line. We won't win the title on Dwight ISO post ups if he only shoots 50-60% from the line, players and the ball need to be moving and attacking.
D'Antonis system offers a good chance for shooters to be succesful, if Meeks, Jamison, Blake and Artest are going to clonk 3's they didn't other places in their career we aren't going to win no matter what sytem we run, not in 2013 NBA.
Artest haven't really shot well since his thumb injury but Meeks and Blake were very good 3pt shooters on other teams, Jamison has been okay as well, these guys have to pick up their shit on open shots because they will be getting them, throw Gasol in that mix he's also been missing too many open jumpers.[/QUOTE]
Hey, Hey!!!!! FINALLY, real basketball conversation....quite good too!!!! :cheers:
I was starting to think you didn't have it in you :oldlol:
Mike 'Antoni (No D) has been coaching a very long time....not just in the NBA, those are the type of guys who don't change their system...if he didn't really change all that time he is not going to change now.....sure to your point maybe he won't try to run as fast...because they can't....but he will definitely not have a defense that is worth a crap.....I don't care WHO the assistant coaches are, it's the head coach who tells them what to do....he, just like Brown doesn't listen to his assistants....one reason Brown lost most of his during the offseason. He has had players, owners, GMs beg him to work on defense and he refused, I cannot see him suddenly changing now.
Last year a ton of guys boasted about how Brown's assistant coaches were so good and were going to do this and that.......oh this guy is a defensive expert and that guy is a great offensive guy......and what happened.....NOTHING. i just flat out don't trust that this guy gets it, I see a guy who wants to prove everyone wrong....that his shoot quick no D CAN win a championship....this is how he wants to leave his mark on the game.
Other than him either coaching great D or at least saying that he is going to commit to defense and rebounding I will not change my views.
It's like someone thinking Phil Jackson would play rookies big minutes :oldlol:
Again, just as I said about Brown....I HOPE TO BE PROVEN WRONG :cheers: