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Xiao Yao You 09-15-2019 08:39 AM

Pre-season 2019
 
I imagine they still have to add a couple new coaches and make some promotions but let's get started! Should be the best season in Utah in a couple of decades if not the best ever :cheers:

Xiao Yao You 09-15-2019 01:49 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://www.slcdunk.com/2019/9/14/20...rehab-recovery

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Dante Exum’s start to his career has been bumpy—and that’s putting it mildly. He entered the NBA as a teenager, missed his entire second season due to injury, struggled to earn minutes in his third season, re-injured himself in his fourth season, then re-injured himself AGAIN in his fifth season. During that time he has found himself playing anything from point guard to shooting guard to small forward as Quin Snyder and his coaching staff have struggled to find where he fits. With the Utah Jazz short on power forwards could the Australian guard become something much more different than projected?


He doesn't fit in the NBA. PF? Are you joking? :roll:

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The Utah Jazz have a problem for next year however at the Power Forward position. They’re light on warm bodies who specialize in playing the four. They have players who have played it when their team needed them to—Bojan Bogdanovic, Joe Ingles, and Royce O’Neale—but their only real power forward is Jeff Green who has struggled to be a plus player when on the court the past 5 seasons.


Niang

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Dante Exum entered the league weighing 190 lbs. He had a 6’6 with a 6’9 wingspan. He has since grown to almost 6’8 and looks more like an elite NFL tight end. He’s definitely looking like he’s in the 220-240lbs range. Over his career he has shot 30% from three, but his real strength is his speed and playmaking. If anyone could match what Joe Ingles can do as a point forward, it would be Dante Exum. Before Exum suffered his injury his last 8 games he was averaging a PER36 of 20.2 points, 3.8 rebounds, 9.8 assists, 1.9 turnovers on 50.7% and 41.7% 3P%. How would Dante Exum compare to Utah’s other potential Power Forwards in 2019-2020?


was 6'10 reach. First I've heard that he grew two inches.. He's not Ingles! :lol

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I know there’s a few writers at this site who are HYPE about Georges Niang’s upcoming season, but I do not count myself among them. The Jazz have been both good and lucky when it comes to finding diamonds in the rough, but we cannot expect the same development from every undrafted player that makes it onto the Utah Jazz roster. While Georges Niang can light it up from three, he struggled when those three point shots were when it mattered most, and he struggled mightily on the defensive end as his DRAYMOND Rating can attest.



Byut unlike Exum he isn't a horrible offensive player and can stay on the floor. Sounds like he was working on his body which was his biggest weakness

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Now we’re down to the Aussies, Joe Ingles and Dante Exum. I HIGHLY doubt we’ll see Joe Ingles play any time at the four spot unless injuries hit. The reasoning? He’s getting older and Utah will want to preserve his health at any cost. What he brings as far as floor spacing and playmaking cannot be replaced by anyone on this roster. Though it is tempting to see Joe Ingles and Rudy Gobert run endless 4-5 PnRs.


I think Niang could possibly be better than Ingles in time. Has to improve defensively like Ingles did

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Which leaves us with Exum. I don’t think that this article will be the first or the last that we scrutinize what position Dante Exum plays this season. But the reasoning behind it this season will be much different from previous seasons. In past seasons, Utah has run a very traditional NBA offense. They had a traditional Power Forward in Derrick Favors and the Utah Jazz were trying to find minutes for Dante Exum on the court with Shelvin Mack gaining favor as the backup one. Other times, it was because of Raul Neto’s improved play, not Dante Exum’s regressive play that was the reason for the necessary adjustments.


Neto was always better than Exum. There offense isn't traditional. They were trying to play it with traditional players like Favors and Rubio spotting up in the corner instead of guys that fit

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This season, Utah is projected to run a VERY modern NBA offense with 4 out spacing with either Rudy Gobert or Ed Davis manning the middle. It’s an offense that Orlando Magic-era Stan Van Gundy would be proud of. It has its Hedo Turkoglu in Joe Ingles. It’s Rashard Lewis in Bojan Bogdanovic. It has a way better Jameer Nelson in Mike Conley. It has an astronomically better Courtney Lee in Donovan Mitchell. With that offense, Dante Exum could be playing any number of positions because of his versatility. He can play-make like Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley, but he has the size, wingspan and weight to matchup with any player short of LeBron James, Kawhi Leonard, and Giannis Antetokounmpo on the defensive end. If Utah wants to have fun, they can even trot out an all-bench lineup that features Mudiay, Ingles, Green, Exum, and Davis that has Ingles, Green, and Exum fluidly interchanging while on the court. They can relentlessly switch on defense without the opposing offense finding a severe mismatch.


If Mudiay and Exum are playing something is wrong

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Dante Exum’s DRAYMOND rating is insane. He has a positive 1.53 which actually puts him as the second best defender according to the DRAYMOND rating metric behind Rudy Gobert. Ya know, the two time Defensive Player of the Year. Dante Exum might not even be a regular in any position this upcoming season. He could be Utah’s ultimate utility player, their swiss army knife off the bench. With a change to the offense that no longer features a traditional roll man at the four spot, Dante Exum can easily enter the game for any player point guard through power forward, and STILL operate the same.


He's also got the worst HARDEN rating on the team. Need guys that play both ends

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My predictions for SLCDunk articles for the next week
"Feeling Moody about Power Forward? Get ready to feel Mudiay at Power Forward"
"Ed Davis is more than just a center. He’ll be a possible Power Forward."
"The Jazz will move Joe Ingles to Power Forward to feature our five best players as starters"

Posted by Uber_snotling on Sep 15, 2019 | 12:29 AM

Mudiay already mentioned himself at the 4 after taling with Snyder. He actually makes more sense. He's built more like Royce and Crowder

Xiao Yao You 09-15-2019 02:03 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://hoopshabit.com/2019/09/14/ut...-nba-season/2/

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The team acquired Mike Conley via trade with the Grizzlies, and Bojan Bogdanovic, Ed Davis, Jeff Green, and Emmanuel Mudiay through free agency, significantly bolstering their starting lineup and bench.


After the first 9 their bench may have been weakened

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With their new acquisitions, however, it’s possible for the team to become even more suffocating on the defensive end in the 2019-20 season.


I think the reason the D could improve is because of the improved offense. Less turnovers and long misses off of bricks and less transition points given up

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With an improved bench unit of Dante Exum, Mudiay, O’Neale, Green, and Davis, expect the Jazz to land closer to, or in the top 10 this year.


Dante and Mudiay is improved? Niang maybe

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Of this year’s team, the most likely to make his first All-Star team is Gobert, who won Defensive Player of the Year and made Third Team All-NBA last season.


not sure he is most likely. He will likely be most deserving

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Gobert can improve his chances by increasing his scoring to 18-plus points per game, which is a definite possibility with a Mike Conley to help both stretch the floor and feed him open looks down low.


this I can see. Already put up over 17 a game with Jill and Johnson/Diaw around him. Only question is with 3 20 point scorers around him who gets what number wise. 80 or so between the 4 would be nice

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While the team’s acquisitions didn’t fix Gobert’s ability to defend on the perimeter, Utah is much more well rounded offensively, making them much more difficult to shut down when Mitchell is having a poor shooting night.


he guards fine on the perimeter. D isn't their problem. Their problem was fixed

Xiao Yao You 09-16-2019 01:52 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
Shams Charania: The NBA has informed teams of currently projected salary cap and tax level in 2020-21 ($116M/$141M) and 2021-22 ($125M/$151M), sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium . It is $1M lower for ’20-21 and unchanged for ’21-22 based on previous projections. – via Twitter ShamsCharania

Xiao Yao You 09-16-2019 11:53 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
http://saltcityhoops.com/injury-resi...rsatile-depth/

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But an underdiscussed element of the club’s roster-building success is the number of guys on the team with starting experience and multi-positional prowess. This gives them the flexibility to be, one could argue, the most injury-proof of the elite teams.


be hard to argue that

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Another complicating factor in those Rick-less games is that reserve guard Dante Exum was also unavailable for 12 of the 14 that Rubio missed. A healthy Exum should give Utah some options, and even if the beleaguered Aussie misses time again, Utah has emergency options in Emmanuel Mudiay and Nigel Williams-Goss.


Exum is no answer

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Dressed & ready: Georges Niang, Nigel Williams-Goss, Miye Oni, Tony Bradley3

Howard/Goss? Oni should be with the Stars at least to start the year

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The only problem is that giving Jingles’ defensive assignments over to Royce will keep the Baylor product from helping out on bigger forwards. O’Neale’s ability to guard bigger bodies is going to be a big key in terms of how Utah is able to run with Bogdanovic as the nominal power forward on offense, but if he is occupied with covering for Ingles on the wing, then suddenly Utah’s a little thinner defensive on the front line. Green’s minutes would likely be extended, and someone like Niang might need to be pressed into action. We’d probably also see more of Oni or another option who could help patrol the perimeter. With the guards healthy, those minutes would likely come at the expense of Mudiay.


Niang should be playing anyway

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The trickier part is how the Jazz fill in the center minutes behind him if Rudy’s sitting. After two NBA seasons, Bradley still hasn’t played anything beyond garbage minutes. This might be a situation where Utah needs to try using Green for some small-ball center minutes behind Davis, which would naturally require more minutes from Niang to cover Green’s usual role.


Bradley deserves a shot. Double double off the bench in the only quality minutes he's gotten. The fact that they only have 3 centers tells me they think he's ready to play if called upon

Xiao Yao You 09-17-2019 01:58 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://hoopshabit.com/2019/09/16/nb...xecutive-year/

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DENNIS LINDSEY


Does he get the credit or Zanik?

Xiao Yao You 09-17-2019 10:00 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://basketball.realgm.com/analys...ries-Utah-Jazz

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To expect much more out of the galoot was folly. Terminally uncoordinated, he didn’t offer any offensive threat, and on the other end of the floor, he was a smart positional defender given to spectacular feats of clumsiness. He was only an adequate rebounder. Ostertag’s lone inelegant strength was getting in the way—a large object obstructing defenders, driving lanes, and much more talented big men. Have you ever played ball in a church with a support beam in the middle of the floor? He was like a beam that could move around, kind of. This had its utility—advanced stats like Ostertag a lot, which might be enough justification to burn the analytics movement to the ground—but that didn’t make him any more pleasant to watch.


great offensive rebounder

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Of course, he doesn’t have to apologize for anything. There have been many more ignominious careers than his, and he contributed, in his way, to a handful of really good teams. But if Greg Ostertag is remarkable, it is for representing the stark limits of Jazz fans’ capacity to appreciate players who looked like them. They wanted him to be Mark Eaton, and they would have exalted him had he cleared that relatively low bar, but instead he was a source of frustration and disappointment. Ostertag never found love, not even in the one place that might have given it to him.


better than Eaton

Xiao Yao You 09-18-2019 07:07 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
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Tony Jones: The Utah Jazz have signed Mike Scott. A six foot point guard out of Idaho, Scott is expected to be with the Jazz in camp, and then will play with the SLC Stars – via Twitter Tjonesonthenba


that's 21 by my count. Maybe they plan on signing one of them after another gets cut early in camp like Cousins last year? :confusedshrug:

Xiao Yao You 09-19-2019 09:59 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat...vic-jeff-green

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Will the lack of a true PF hurt the Jazz?


It's the best it's been since Millsap was let go :rant

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Plus, Ingles, Bogdanovic, Green, O’Neale, Niang and Exum are all good players. They aren’t stars, but with Mitchell, Conley and Gobert they don’t have to be. Being A-level role players will be enough to vault the Jazz into a new era or prosperity in the NBA.


How about Exum actually shows that he's good before saying he's good? :eek:

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I don’t think Snyder wants a 4 on the court. His 1st 2 years, he played Favors and Booker at the 4, but after that, more time started going to guys like Boris Diaw, Joe Johnson, and Jae Crowder, who all came into the league as guards or wings. It’s pretty clear that Snyder wants to play either 2 guards and 2 wings with a big, or 1 guard and 3 wings with a big.

Posted by TheManTheyCallJayne on Sep 19, 2019 | 2:02 PM

he wants 4 guys that can shoot, pass, handle the ball. You forgot Lyles

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I think this is why the Jazz were reportedly inerested in Mirotic before he went to Europe. He shoots the three AND rebounds.
Really, the best player for the Jazz would have been a Favors who could shoot threes.

Posted by BoufantPuffydoo on Sep 19, 2019 | 3:36 PM

luckily they got Bojan instead~! :cheers:

Xiao Yao You 09-19-2019 10:01 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://thejnotes.com/2019/09/19/uta...ho-mike-scott/

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In any case, Scott definitely has the look of a player the Jazz can get into their system and development. Last season, he averaged 12 points, 4.5 assists and just over 1.5 steals per game for the Polish club BM Slam Stal Ostrow.


too small

Xiao Yao You 09-20-2019 12:27 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
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Marc Stein: The Rockets are signing Thabo Sefolosha, league sources say – via Twitter TheSteinLine

Jonathan Feigen: Veteran forward Thabo Sefolosha will sign with the Rockets, source said. A one-year, minimum deal. @TheSteinLine first. – via Twitter Jonathan_Feigen

great pick up for them. Too bad Snyder could never appreciate him :cry:

Xiao Yao You 09-20-2019 12:45 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://thejnotes.com/2019/09/20/nba...-the-playoffs/

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You might be thinking to yourself, “How are the Jazz going to get a marquee superstar talent?” There is a scenario where the Jazz might have a superstar already on their roster.


already have Rudy

Xiao Yao You 09-20-2019 12:48 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://sircharlesincharge.com/2019/...shot-lakers/7/

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The addition of Mike Conley creates a new big three for this Jazz team with Rudy Gobert manning the paint and protecting the rim and Donovan Mitchell who will be looking to make another leap in year three.


more of a big one and I'd put Bojan in there with Mitchell and Conley

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To replace Favors, the Jazz signed Bojan Bogdanovic who is a terrific floor spacer and shot creator. To improve their depth, they brought in guys like Jeff Green, Ed Davis, and Emmanuel Mudiay, all guys who are capable of contributing in a big way for their team.


Remains to be seen how much Mudiay can help

Xiao Yao You 09-20-2019 10:04 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
Eric Woodyard: Utah Jazz guard Dante Exum’s shoe deal with Adidas has ended and he’s evaluating options, per sources. Exum was recently spotted wearing Nike’s around the practice facility. – via Twitter E_Woodyard

Xiao Yao You 09-21-2019 10:05 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://www.slcdunk.com/2019/9/21/20...draymond-green

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There have been a lot of headlines in Utah over the course of the summer, more than usual for a Jazz team that normally is out of the national limelight. Mike Conley was traded to Utah, Bojan Bogdanovic, Ed Davis, and Emmanuel Mudiay signed in Utah, Donovan Mitchell’s shoes sold out, Jazz players had amazing performances at FIBA, and Donovan Mitchell did this. There’s a lot to talk about in Utah, but the most important piece to Utah’s success has been quietly skimming beneath all the noise while working to improve his game. His ability to take even the slightest step forward in his development could mean the difference between another disappointing early round playoff exit and a championship. That player? Royce O’Neale.


most important will be who steps up after the 9 proven guys they have

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That potential led into the Jazz’s training camp where he beat out the second round drafted Joel Bolomboy. A move that many—most of us at this site not named James Hansen—didn’t see coming. He went from being the last man on the roster to a playoff starter in his 1st season. In his second season, he had a sophomore slump. He started slow and found himself in and out of the rotation. By the end of the season his play improved. He had a net rating of +12.3 when he was on the court and averaged 5.1 points, 3.8 rebounds, and 1.9 assists in 24 minutes a game. His shooting metrics dropped, but his defensive intensity was back.


he had a guaranteed contract. If I remember Bolomoboy's was a partial guarantee

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This upcoming season, the Utah Jazz will ask Royce O’Neale to take the arguably the biggest step forward in his development: play power forward. Back in July, Tony Jones of The Athletic reported the Utah Jazz were seriously contemplating starting Royce O’Neale at Power Forward. That would mean Royce O’Neale went from undrafted shooting guard at the end of the roster to starting power forward of the Utah Jazz in only two years time. Playing power forward for the Utah Jazz is akin to piloting the black lion of Voltron. It’s a position that has been held down by some big time players such as Adrian Dantley, Thurl Bailey, Andrei Kirilenko, Carlos Boozer, Derrick Favors, and Karl Malone. How could the Utah Jazz be looking at a 6’6 shooting guard for the power forward position?


Dantley wasn't a PF :lol

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It doesn’t end on the offensive end either. They still have to have the strength on the defensive end to matchup against four different position AND still rebound at an above average rate. (Yet another reason why prime Andrei Kirilenko would dominate this era, but I digress.)


AK wasn't a great rebounder or shooter.

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While ballhawking steals is great for points and Royce O’Neale is no slouch when it comes to steals—in his rookie year, he had a steal in San Antonio that sealed the game—O’Neale is a beast at rebounding. According to Cleaning the Glass, Royce O’Neale was in the 92nd percentile in defensive rebounding. In offensive rebounding, he was in the 23rd percentile. But there is hope for better performance in that area. In Royce’s rookie year he was in the 53rd percentile.


Gobert or Davis will usually be the only guys on the offensive glass

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This is where Utah wants to see the biggest developmental gains with Royce O’Neale. Royce O’Neale is going to be surrounded by weapons. If he improves his playmaking ability in transition—identifying the open man and weapons available—and becomes a player with whom Quin Snyder is comfortable initiating the offense, then Utah is a very dangerous team. Now he’s not just a floor spacer and defensive stopper. He becomes the total package. The ideal modern power forward.


I don't think he will ever be ideal

Xiao Yao You 09-21-2019 10:15 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://www.slcdunk.com/2019/9/20/20...-georges-niang

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Royce O’neale
Best Case Scenario: Starter, Most Improved Player
Worst Case Scenario: End of the bench

if he's at the end of the bench than Snyder should be fired

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If O’neale can take 4-5 threes per game and do it within an offense that will be vastly better next season, the Jazz have a potent weapon on their hands.


not always the answer. Ingles shooting more wasn't a good thing

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Georges Niang
Best Case Scenario: Rotation player, Spot starter
Worst Case Scenario: A season of DNP-CDs

fire Snyder if he's not playing

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Dante Exum
Best Case Scenario: Sixth Man of the Year, Most Improved Player
Worst Case Scenario: More health issues and more lack of development

6th man of the year? :roll:

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That’s the biggest benefit of adding talent that fits, things get simpler. Now, instead of having a million screens and actions to make up for a lack of shooting, the offense will have simpler actions with more space. Therefore, Exum might be looking at the best spacing and simplest actions of his career. With his speed and athleticism, he has a chance to be a terror for opposing wing defenders.


it's when he's on the court that the spacing will be lacking. He will be left alone to shoot on the perimeter

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But as is always the case with Exum, he has to stay healthy. Not much else has to be said about this. Exum continues to have a huge ceiling, let’s hope this is the year we see how close he can get to it.


has to show he actually play the game of basketball

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The Niang Thang
While I don’t believe that he can put it all together this season, I do believe that with proper training (which the Jazz are always leaders in), Niang can become a Dirk Nowitzki light- a type of guy who while not fantastic at defense, can keep himself on the floor enough to showcase his ability to score anywhere on the floor.

Posted by InterestingIntelligent on Sep 21, 2019 | 9:53 AM

I think he could be better than Ingles

Xiao Yao You 09-21-2019 10:27 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://thejnotes.com/2019/09/21/thr...eason-2019-20/

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Ah, yes. Dante Exum. The perennial Ex-Factor (see what I did there?) that unfortunately has never been able to remain healthy. It may sound like the continued beating of a dead horse or the repetitive jumble of a broken record, but it remains the truth nonetheless. If Exum can finally remain healthy, reach some semblance of his potential and make an impact for the Jazz, he could very well be a game-changer.


he's already a game changer thanks to that crappy contract. Imagine having another 9 million to spend :rant

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But my point is – all Exum truly has to do to have a breakout season is simply suit up for an entire year! Sure, that may be a tall order given his spotty history, but at the same time, it’s entirely doable.


got to show he doesn't suck regardless

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Exum has shown enough value during his highest points, that even if he doesn’t improve one iota from that, but just remains healthy, it will be a massive success for both him and the Jazz. The value he’ll bring as a defender and as an athletic driver that can collapse defenses as he attacks the paint will be enormous.


collapse defenses and miss lay ups or turn it over. Value? :rolleyes:

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But if he, one, stays healthy, two, remedies those issues to improve his reliability and usability then, three, remains the masterful defender he’s shown himself capable of being, the Jazz are going to have a role player extraordinaire on their hands. A breakout from Exum would make the Jazz even deeper than they’re projected to be. And considering the high ceiling Dante already has, it could result in the Jazz having yet another elite two-way force in their ranks. That would be such an incredible luxury.


9 proven players is deep? :wtf:

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For the Utah Jazz, the player with the most superstar potential yet to reach is none other than Donovan Mitchell. In other words, in order for them to truly ascend to the ranks of the elite in the NBA, year three will have to be Mitchell’s finest yet.


is there any doubt it will be with Ricky and Favors replaced by guys that fit? :confusedshrug:

Xiao Yao You 09-21-2019 10:37 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://fansided.com/2019/09/20/25-u...tchell-jazz-5/

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For that reason, it’s assumed he will continue that upward trajectory this year as the stakes get higher and the expectations get bigger. Leading the team in offensive responsibility should be a given. Improved efficiency is expected, as Conley and Bogdanovic should inject diversity and reliability into the Utah supporting cast. It would be a shock if he didn’t make his first All-Star appearance. The Jazz are going to be expected to be among the West’s elite teams, especially if a superteam like the Warriors, Lakers, or Clippers falters early. Mitchell is expected to carry the Jazz to at least a competitive second-round series, and considerably more locally.


Their best player isn't the one carrying them again? :lol

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It’s also worth remembering that growth curves aren’t linear. We normally think of development as a linear curve — Player A starts in one place, gets better in year two, improves again in year three, etc. But it doesn’t always happen like that, and there are a lot of reasons that Mitchell could either plateau or even regress this coming year. He could struggle to adapt to the new offensive structure with Conley and Bogdanovic, and there’s still the threat of his defense not improving, which is one thing that didn’t really happen last year. Mitchell could slip back to 20-21 points per game, 35 percent shooting from 3, and around 3.5 assists per game next year, and it wouldn’t be shocking. And when you consider the rest of the West, this Jazz team could be significantly improved even if Mitchell doesn’t meet expectations … and still win around 48 games and lose in the first round.


I can see his points going down but he will be better

Xiao Yao You 09-21-2019 10:38 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
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Utah’s bench is looking a little thinner now than last season, but Royce O’Neale and Dante Exum have proven to be playable in the past, Ed Davis is a good signing who has proved effective everywhere he’s played, and Jeff Green is still capable of one scoring outburst per season.


when did Exum prove playable? Summer league? :lol

https://sircharlesincharge.com/2019/...-20-lakers/13/

Xiao Yao You 09-23-2019 01:14 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://thejnotes.com/2019/09/22/uta...p-point-guard/

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The Utah Jazz got a major upgrade at point guard in Mike Conley, but who’s next on the depth chart? Ultimately, it may not be worth worrying about.


Mitchell/Ingles unless Exum, Goss, or Mudiay steps up

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It came as no surprise when the Jazz elected to move on from both players.


Yeah it was no surprise that the Jazz went the cheap route and moved on from Hill for someone that didn't fit. Their usual :rant

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Also — the other point guards on the roster all come with some baggage. Dante Exum can’t shoot, doesn’t finish at the hoop well and he’s never been able to stay healthy. Emmanuel Mudiay was better last season, but he has struggled as a shooter and playmaker as well.


You forgot Exum can't hold onto the ball and Mudiay can't defend

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Really, anything the Jazz get from Exum, Mudiay and/or Williams-Goss is icing; the cake has already been baked.


it's not though because they only have 9 proven players. They need more than that even if they were incredibly healthy

Bosnian Sajo 09-23-2019 02:17 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
"I'm still on drugs!"

Xiao Yao You 09-24-2019 01:00 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
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Originally Posted by Bosnian Sajo
"I'm still on drugs!"


I hope they are good ones at least

Xiao Yao You 09-24-2019 01:16 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://thejnotes.com/2019/09/24/uta...-fans-realize/

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As the Utah Jazz look for unique ways to maximize their new-look roster, fans shouldn’t be surprised if Emmanuel Mudiay plays a greater role than originally presumed.


They have 9 proven guys so some others need to step up and he's certainly shown some potential as at least a 6th man type and is still young

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But those were decent figures on a poor team, so it’s hard to get too excited about those marks.


Not really. Maybe surrounded by good players he can become more efficient and play better D?

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In a recent article from The Athletic (paid subscription required), Jazz insider Tony Jones revealed that the Utah Jazz are strongly considering moving Dante Exum off the ball this upcoming season. That would be an interesting development for the young guard who has been considered a point guard since entering the league.


a pg that can't finish, hit an open shot or hang onto the ball. An NBA player with those attributes :rolleyes:

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That’s all fine and good if Dante can improve and become a weapon in whichever way the Jazz see fit. But if Exum is slid to more of a wing spot rather than the backup point guard position, that’s almost assuredly going to open up a massive opportunity for Emmanuel Mudiay. That sentiment was also backed up in the aforementioned piece from The Athletic as Jones made mention that Exum’s likely slide off ball would in theory make Mudiay a “primary option” at the backup point guard spot.


If everyone is healthy I see them fighting for the 10th spot in the rotation with the winner of the Kidd/Howard battle and Goss at least until Oni or Brantley are ready to contribute possibly latter in the year or the upgrade the roster

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While ideally he will indeed prove the doubters wrong and thrive – and that would certainly be a best case scenario for all involved – Jazz fans shouldn’t get too worried about whether Mudiay sinks or swims. If he succeeds, he could add a new wrinkle to the Jazz second unit as a dynamic backup point guard. However, if he sinks, the Jazz fortunately have multiple options to fall back on.


multiple unproven options

Xiao Yao You 09-24-2019 02:33 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
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Andy Larsen: Jazz announce their broadcast plans for next season: Craig Bolerjack plus Matt Harpring for most games, with Thurl Bailey filling in when Harp isn’t available. Kristen Kenney still sideline reporter. Pre/post will come from Vivint main entrance studio, rather than upper level. – via Twitter andyblarsen


no Michael Smith? :rolleyes:

Xiao Yao You 09-24-2019 02:38 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
Justin Zanik: I’m optimistic and we’re optimistic for the opportunity that we have because in the Western Conference we have so many good teams. Every game is going to be a competitive matchup and the East has improved as well. As we go into this (season), you want to be the last team standing so the decisions (you make), the people you hire — the coaches you have, the players you have — they’re coming here to (compete) too. We expect to compete. – via deseret.com

What does taking the next step look like for Donovan Mitchell? Justin Zanik: From a team standpoint, the expectations are on all of us. And it’s incumbent on us to help him grow, but the rest of the team’s got to perform as well. So it’s not a one-man show here. Donovan would probably be the first one to tell you that. He’s got his big brother protecting the rim, and he’s got guys around him that are talented, and he obviously learned a lot from Ricky Rubio, but the opportunity to play with Mike Conley is gonna be great. – via deseret.com

Justin Zanik: I was an agent for 15 years and I enjoyed a lot of it — the player relationships and building careers. When I moved over to the team side, it was for a couple of reasons. One was (executive vice president of basketball operations) Dennis Lindsey, who I considered a mentor and a top performer in his job. With the experiences, it fit me and my family very well and especially the state of Utah, the city of Salt Lake, the Millers who have embraced us. I’ve fallen in love with the Mountain West and I couldn’t imagine doing it anywhere else. – via deseret.com

Xiao Yao You 09-25-2019 12:46 AM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://www.ksl.com/article/46644501...-who-wont-play

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Ben Anderson: The Jazz are deep, so who won’t play?


how are they always deep? They have 9 proven guys that should play and Exum who probably shouldn't but will

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Unless one of the non-guaranteed camp invitees makes a major impact in the preseason, don’t be surprised to see the Jazz enter the season without a full 15-man roster. Draft picks Jarrell Brantley and Justin Wright-Foreman will begin the season with the two-way contracts, splitting time between the G League affiliate Utah Stars and the Jazz.


I'd be surprised. Howard looks good from what I saw

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Bradley will likely be squeezed out of the rotation with Gobert and Davis filling the minutes at center. Oni is just a rookie, and though he looked like a more-than-capable shooter during the NBA Summer League — a skill the Jazz need — it’s unlikely, based on his college experience and physical tools, that he’ll be ready to contribute to the Jazz this season.


I think Oni and Brantley could help them later in the year

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That leaves Exum, Mudiay, Williams-Goss and Niang batting for the final spot. Of those four, three have seen the majority of their career minutes spent at point guard, while Niang has filled the role of a sharp-shooting multi-tool. Niang enters the season with a guaranteed deal, but he was allowed to skip summer league, which is a good indication the Jazz trust his development.


He dominated summer league and Gleague. Stupid to have him there. He was in the rotation in the playoffs and is one of their best offensive players. He should play

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By adding Bogdanovic and Green, though, the Jazz added two high-level rotation players that share Niang's skill set, and do it better than the fourth-year forward. Simply put, it’s difficult to find a role for Niang that allows him to find regular rotation minutes.


Bogdanovic is a 3. Not sure Green is better actually

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Of the 42 contests, Exum was available to play in last season, he recorded 10 minutes or more in 34 of those outings. Mudiay, though new to the roster, played 10 minutes or more in 58 of his 59 outings with the disastrous New York Knicks last season. Williams-Goss is the biggest mystery of this group, having spent two productive years overseas since the Jazz drafted him out of Gonzaga. As a rookie, I’d lean away from him as a rotation player to begin the season.


He's an old rookie who has proven himself abroad.

Xiao Yao You 09-25-2019 12:51 AM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://thejnotes.com/2019/09/24/uta...ordon-hayward/

Yeah like Hood and Favors were ahead of Gobert and Hill :roll:

Xiao Yao You 09-25-2019 01:13 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://www.deseret.com/2019/9/25/20...-five-in-years

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With the first preseason game of the season next Saturday, the hype for the Utah Jazz is ramping up. In the Jazz’s season preview for NBA.com, Shaun Powell writes glowingly about Utah, calling the 2019-2020 squad the Jazz’s “most accomplished starting five in years, perhaps since the John Stockton-Karl Malone era,” on paper at least.


No perhaps no matter who takes the 5th spot. They've never had 3 20 point scorers and another who is their best player! :eek:

Xiao Yao You 09-25-2019 01:13 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://twitter.com/utahjazz/status/...-five-in-years

looks like still waiting on Rudy and Bojan and 5 others

Xiao Yao You 09-25-2019 01:29 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://thejnotes.com/2019/09/25/uta...west-division/

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Instead, that title goes to the one between two rising young stars: Donovan Mitchell and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.


Is Shai a rising star? :confusedshrug:

Adams/Gobert

Xiao Yao You 09-27-2019 12:44 AM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-...-their-players

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In case you’re thinking that players can game the numbers by wearing big shoes and 10 pairs of Stance socks, that is not happening this time around. Height will be measured with shoes off.


nice. wingspan is even more important though

Xiao Yao You 09-27-2019 07:47 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://www.deseret.com/2019/9/27/20...ng-camp-roster

So Mike Scott will be added when Bluett or Morgan is released I assume?

Xiao Yao You 09-28-2019 08:35 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://thejnotes.com/2019/09/27/uta...0-camp-roster/

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Williams-Goss, who has drafted by the Jazz in 2017, re-joins the squad after two years in Europe. Howard comes by way of France. They’re probably in-line for the back-end roster spots. I expect Bluiett, Morgan and Kidd will find their way to the G-League’s Salt Lake City Stars.


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Justin Wright-Foreman, Jarrell Brantley and Miye Oni have come on-board via the second round of the 2019 NBA Draft. Wright-Foreman and Brantley will occupy the Jazz’s two two-way slots to start the season. Oni, meanwhile, looks to be on-target for a spot on the 15-man opening night roster.


Oni guaranteed contract
Goss has a guaranteed contract and Kidd a partial guarantee to fight Howard for the final spot. At 28 is he going to play in the Gleauge if he doesn't make it?

Xiao Yao You 09-29-2019 11:52 AM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://thejnotes.com/2019/09/28/uta...st-division/3/

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Houston Rockets: James Harden vs. Dante Exum


the 10th man? :roll:

Xiao Yao You 09-29-2019 09:32 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://www.ksl.com/article/46647750...-training-camp

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Conley hasn’t often played with a rim-rolling center who feasts on lobs, like Gobert; Ingles lost his pick-and-roll partner in Derrick Favors; Mitchell hasn't played with a point guard who scores as much as Conley.


Conley's got a great floater. Should be a great weapon . A lob or a floater. Keep D's guessing

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If Dante Exum or Mudiay prove to be consistent enough to lead the second unit, the Jazz could very well start their best five players. If not, don’t be surprised to see Ingles come off the bench to stabilize things as a point forward — or even just to provide another offensive punch.


They don't want Ingles getting worn out or playing the 4. Want Bojan at the 3

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Such a move would push Royce O’Neale or Green into the starting lineup, depending on the matchup. O’Neale is arguably the team’s best perimeter defender, and he shot 39% from 3-point range last season. Green, meanwhile, could be used to match up against bigger frontcourts. These wouldn’t be bad options for the Jazz to explore in the starting lineup.


Or Niang. Should play whoever works best with the other 4

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Regardless of who starts, expect plenty of staggering to keep a scoring threat on the floor at all times. Bogdanovic, Conley and Mitchell have all been effective in their careers as a team’s top-scoring option — the Jazz should be able to use that to their advantage.


try to keep 2 of them at all times and 3 of 4 with Gobert in that mix

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Favors was arguably the Jazz’s third-best player as he embraced his hybrid starter/backup role. By some metrics, it was Favors — not Gobert — who was the best rim protector in the league last season. Having that as your backup center was a nice luxury.


better rim protector than the guy that no one ants to challenge? :lol

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Davis won’t provide the Gobert injury insurance that Favors did, but things point to him being able to fill the backup center role.


why won't he? :confusedshrug:

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This is the first Jazz team that Snyder has coached with this much offensive talent. Snyder’s advantage basketball system has done wonders to create open shots for teams with much less firepower. Imagine what he can do with this year’s squad.


He needs to worry about his rotations and getting the right guys on the floor and letting them play. Not overthink and show us how smart he is

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This isn’t a new trend: You need a superstar to win a title. The question is: Can Mitchell be that for the Jazz? He’s already well on his way. In fact, he’s pretty close to being there.


They have their superstar. When Mitchell is the best player on the team let's talk

Xiao Yao You 09-29-2019 09:40 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
http://saltcityhoops.com/choosing-to-believe/

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Like Ginobili, Dante Exum arrived to the league with abilities and attributes that were intriguing, but having proven very little. Like Ginobili, those obvious gifts have often been on display, reminding viewers why he’s special even amid an otherwise uneven start to his career. He has played behind established veterans and seen his playing time and role fluctuate, and his coach has likewise tried to rein him in, sometimes with consternation. Manu and Dante are very different players, but their early experiences as NBA players are parallel in many ways.


comparing Dante with one of the greats? :roll:

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Something similar happens almost any time Exum is mentioned. It happened when The Athletic’s Tony Jones shared intel that the Jazz are still very high on Exum, and it happened again when recent workout photos of Exum surfaced.


what else are they going to say after drafting him and signing him to that horrible contract? :rant

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For example, George Hill to Ricky Rubio was roughly a talent-neutral2 transition made largely because of what’s in Rubio’s heart and bones, and then Rubio to Mike Conley was about taking the talent to the next level without sacrificing what Rubio brought emotionally and intellectually. The same thing happened when Utah replaced Joe Johnson with Jae Crowder, and later upgraded to Bojan Bogdanovic.

Rubio never fit. Hill fit perfectly. :facepalm

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In Exum’s case, there are still plenty of reasons to be excited. While his early career has had its ups and downs, he is still just 24 and he has established a pretty safe “floor” by ensconcing himself on the foundation of a couple of elite skill sets. Players who are elite in one area tend to have long NBA careers, even if they’re mediocre at everything else3. Players who have two elite skill sets have a chance to be really, really special. Even if Exum remains exactly who he is at age 24, he has already shown a capacity to be elite in two really important areas of the game: the ability to break down defenses with his speed4, and on-ball defense.


who cares if he breaks down D's if he can't finish or hold on to the ball? :rolleyes:

Xiao Yao You 09-29-2019 09:44 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://www.slcdunk.com/2019/9/29/20...ya-rudy-gobert

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With five key contributors — Conley, Davis, Bogdanovic, Ingles, and Green — over the age of 30, it might be smart for the Jazz to strategically rest guys during the course of the season. But in an all-out Western Conference war, with playoff positioning critical, can the Jazz afford to? That’s especially true given that the depth of this team from spots 10-15 is not as effective, on paper, as what it was a season ago.


That remains to be seen. 1-9 is better. No Rubio or Favors brining them down

Xiao Yao You 09-30-2019 04:19 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
Goss sounds intelligent

Xiao Yao You 09-30-2019 04:22 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
https://www.nba.com/jazz/?tmd=1

Niang looks like he may be in better shape. Watch out!

Xiao Yao You 09-30-2019 04:34 PM

Re: Pre-season 2019
 
Niang says Bradley dominated in ota's. Bradley sounds pretty happy about what he did as well


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