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Rose 12-07-2010 07:20 PM

Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
We all know Kobe Bryant's a great player; one of the best in the world. We make a big deal about his five rings, and him possibly getting a sixth one which would be a great feat! Kobe has some nice records, such as youngest player to get 20,000 points, and also 25,000 points! But there are other all-time records Kobe can legitimately gain before the end of his career too. Not just youngest player to reach 30,000 points which I fully expect him to earn too. Go Kobe!


Another record Kobe Bryant has: He's also the youngest player to reach 10,000 bricks. Postseason not included. Which brings me to the point of the thread.

At the pace Kobe's been at, he will soon reach the most bricks by a player in NBA history. If the legendary Kobe Bryant continues to put up 20 FGAs a game over the remainder of his contract (barring injury!) he will easily surpass the most bricks in NBA history marker which is currently held by John Havlicek at 13,417 shots missed. Kobe recently surpassed Wilt Chamberlain for 9th on the all time list, and should surpass Allen Iverson, and possibly Elgin Baylor later this year is all goes well (or not well! :roll)


Next year, we can watch in amazement as Kobe Bryant climbs the charts, making a strong push for 5th on the all time list. Which puts him within dangerous striking distance of the top three. After three seasons, we should expect to see Kobe join Elvin Hayes and John Havlicek in the elite 13,000 bricks club.

Mutumbo could build a few hospitals with all those bricks! So don't be stingy Kobe.




20 games into the season, Kobe's currently at 10,997 career bricks. Just 2,420 shy of the title.

Over the last three seasons, Kobe averaged 893 bricks per year. At this rate, he will eclipse.John Havlicek's total bricks either by the tail end of the 2013 season, or the very beginning of the 2014 season (asuming he misses some games). Even if Kobe decreases his FGAs by 4 per game starting now, he will still eclipse Havlicek during his final season.


So come on Kobe! We're all cheering you on as you chase NBA history, for that dubious honor of most FGAs missed of all time. I wonder if Kobe will retire just short of reaching that goal? Or develop some mysterious injury that the team physicians just can't seem to put a finger on as he closes in for that title during his final season! We shall see!

Let's all enjoy Kobe while we still can. :D


Oh, and for reference, here's a chart of Kobe's shot tendencies in wins and losses.

(Stats not compiled by me. The person who did, PM me if you want me to edit in your name for credit. I left it out so you don't get labeled as a 'Kobe hater' for the mere act of looking up stats)
Kobe's FGA in wins and losses since he became a starter.

1999
wins- 15 FGA, 49.4 FG%
losses- 16.6 FGA, 42.2 FG%

2000
wins- 17.6 FGA, 48.1 FG%
losses- 19.6 FGA, 41.2 FG%

2001
wins- 21.9 FGA, 48.6 FG%
losses- 22.9 FGA, 42.4 FG%

2002
wins- 19 FGA, 49.5 FG%
losses- 22.2 FGA, 41.7 FG%

2003
wins- 23.3 FGA, 48 FG%
losses- 23.8 FGA, 40.7 FG%

2004
wins- 17.7 FGA, 46.2 FG%
losses- 19.4 FGA, 37.6 FG%

2005
wins- 19.6 FGA, 47 FG%
losses- 20.4 FGA, 40.6 FG%

2006
wins- 26.8 FGA, 47.6 FG%
losses- 27.6 FGA, 41.8 FG%

2007
wins- 22.3 FGA, 50.3 FG%
losses- 23.3 FGA, 42.3 FG%

2008
wins- 19.3 FGA, 48 FG%
losses- 23.6 FGA, 41.8 FG%

2009
wins- 19.5 FGA, 47.9 FG%
losses-26.1 FGA, 43.3 FG%

2010
wins- 20.6 FGA, 47.5 FG%
losses- 23.6 FGA, 41.9 FG%

2011 (19 games into the season, which is when the stats were compiled)
wins- 18.8 FGA, 43.3 FG%
losses- 25.8 FGA, 41.9 FG%


What an amazing player. I can't say enough how great it is to watch a great basketball player show amazing self-control when his team's down and look to get his teammates involved rather than try to be the hero all by himself. Too bad I don't get to see that when I watch Kobe Bryant. Well-deserving of the all time bricks leader award, which he is destined to earn.

Kobe Brickant at work:



And to put this FURTHER into perspective also keep in mind he didn't play much his first couple years...and here's the brick leaders


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose
Here's the brick leaders

Career missed shots:

John Havlicek 13,417 shots
Elvin Hayes 13,296 shots
Karl Malone 12,682 shots
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
12,470 shots
Michael Jordan 12,345 shots
Dominique Wilkins 11,626 shots
Elgin Baylor 11,478 shots
Allen Iverson 11,418 shots
Wilt Chamberlain 10,816 shots
Kobe Bryant 10,501 shots
Alex English 10,377 shots
Hal Greer 10,307 shots
Bob Cousy 10,300 shots
Hakeem Olajuwon 10,242 shots
Oscar Robertson 10,112 shots
Jerry West 10,016 shots


SinJackal 12-07-2010 07:26 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
Whoa :\ I wonder what that's going to do for Kobe's legacy as a scorer.

Crazy stats there. Never knew that.

tpols 12-07-2010 07:27 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
negged.

Ruh-Roh 12-07-2010 07:28 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
Okay. I'll ask what everyone here is dying to know....where does MJ fall on that list?

Great Post though man :cheers:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tpols
negged.


Like your rep means shit to anyone let alone that guy. :lolneg me *****!

Rose 12-07-2010 07:29 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruh-Roh
Okay. I'll ask what everyone here is dying to know....where does MJ fall on that list?

Great Post though man :cheers:

For most bricks? or makes?

and thanks:cheers:

necya 12-07-2010 07:30 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
that's amazing the difference of FGA in the losses...the guy want his 30pts, no matter how many shots it takes !

i believe if i remember well in 07 he was the 2nd less efficient scorer for 40pts games, i guess behind iverson.

Batz 12-07-2010 07:31 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
I lol'd.

Rose 12-07-2010 07:32 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Batz
I lol'd.

u :mad: ?

I even like Kobe I just found this interesting.

DuMa 12-07-2010 07:32 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
great thought out post A++ will read again

Batz 12-07-2010 07:33 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
The last pic... :roll:

Ruh-Roh 12-07-2010 07:34 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose
For most bricks? or makes?

and thanks:cheers:


Both, although bricks was what I was interested with names like Hondo, Baylor, Iverson, Hayes & Wilt having numbers next to them to compare.

VanillaThunder 12-07-2010 07:34 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose
For most bricks? or makes?

and thanks:cheers:



Jordan for his career:

Regular season: 12345 misses (12,192-24,537)
Playoffs: 2309 misses (2,188-4,497)
All Star: 123 misses (110-233)

14777 total misses



This stat isn't exactly one that scrubs get. If you are taking that many shots, you can bet you are the star of the team. I'd bet everyone in the top 20 has really high usage stats too.

For Kobe to have the career he has had (and is still having) he was bound to end up on this list. Especially considering how young he was when he came into the league.

tpols 12-07-2010 07:35 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
MJ missed 12345 FG in 15 years.

Kobe only missed less than 10997 in 14 years.

MJ will have missed more field goals in the 15 year sample than kobe (because kobe won't reach MJ's total by the end of this year).

So technically MJ is the king of missed FGs since he has the most in the shortest time frame.

So all this really shows is how irrelevant and misleading that is since everyone still considers jordan the goat.:confusedshrug:

Rose 12-07-2010 07:37 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tpols
MJ missed 12345 FG in 15 years.

Kobe only missed less than 10997 in 14 years.

MJ will have missed more field goals in the 15 year sample than kobe (because kobe won't reach MJ's total by the end of this year).

So technically MJ is the king of missed FGs since he has the most in the shortest time frame.

So all this really shows is how irrelevant and misleading that is since everyone still considers jordan the goat.:confusedshrug:

Jordan also shot 49% for his career, AND didn't play with prime Shaq, who was as dominant as Jordan.

Batz 12-07-2010 07:37 PM

Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose
Jordan also shot 49% for his career, AND didn't play with prime Shaq, who was as dominant as Jordan.

15 pages atleast.


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