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3ball 05-21-2019 10:01 PM

Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Playoffs


09' Lakers ORtg .with.'' Kobe - 112.0
09' Lakers ORtg w/out Kobe -.. 94.0
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.................................Difference - 18.0 <----- link to NBA.com source



18' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Durant - 114.4
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Durant - 96.8
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.................................Difference - 17.6



16' Cavalier ORtg .with.'' lebron - 115.9
16' Cavalier ORtg w/out lebron - 98.4
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.................................Difference - 17.5



18' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Curry - 113.5
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 107.3.
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.................................Difference - 6.2



19' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Curry - 119.0
19' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 102.7
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.................................Difference - 16.3


How does this not prove that Kobe had the biggest offensive impact?
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warriorfan 05-21-2019 10:05 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Ortg and Drtg are garbage stats

Op has turned into a lebron stan, next he will be in here citing VORP and BPM

Youíve fallen off bruh

Kblaze8855 05-21-2019 10:08 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Iím fully aware of how odd it is coming from me but still....


There arenít 44 people alive who give a ****.

And1AllDay 05-21-2019 10:10 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kblaze8855

There arenít 44 people alive who give a ****.


Could be the realest post you ever made bruh :cheers:

Funny and sad and true all in one

3ball 05-21-2019 10:16 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warriorfan
Ortg and Drtg are garbage stats

Op has turned into a lebron stan, next he will be in here citing VORP and BPM

You’ve fallen off bruh

Nah, Lebron's numbers in his winning playoffs is worse than Kobe's and Durant's

Only 17.5 in 2016 playoffs (kyrie at 19.4) and 13.8 in 2013
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RRR3 05-21-2019 10:24 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Curry>MJ.



3ball is so shook

warriorfan 05-21-2019 10:28 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ball
Nah, Lebron's numbers in his winning playoffs is worse than Kobe's and Durant's

Only 15.8 in 2016 playoffs and 13.8 in 2013


What about lebrons career vorp?

3ball 05-21-2019 10:31 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warriorfan
What about lebrons career vorp?

Attached to games played.. means nothing, like win shares

Btw, added lebron to the OP - 17.5 in the 16' playoffs, but Kyrie had a bigger impact with 19.4

warriorfan 05-21-2019 10:34 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ball
Attached to games played.. means nothing, like win shares

Btw, added lebron to the OP - 17.5 in the 16' playoffs, but Kyrie had a bigger impact with 19.4


Lebron ties Jordan for highest vorp during a championship season....and completely dwarfs mj in career vorp....I had Jordan over LeBron but after this arbitrary advanced stat discovery it leads me to think otherwise.

NBASTATMAN 05-21-2019 10:39 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ball
Attached to games played.. means nothing, like win shares

Btw, added lebron to the OP - 17.5 in the 16' playoffs, but Kyrie had a bigger impact with 19.4



SO FISHER had a bigger impact than KOBE.. IN THE NBAFINALS


THREAD IS OVER :roll:

https://stats.nba.com/team/161061274... LastNGames=5

Vino24 05-21-2019 10:39 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warriorfan
Lebron ties Jordan for highest vorp during a championship season....and completely dwarfs mj in career vorp....I had Jordan over LeBron but after this arbitrary advanced stat discovery it leads me to think otherwise.

welcome to the Bron fam :cheers: :rockon: :pimp:

warriorfan 05-21-2019 10:40 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NBASTATMAN
SO FISHER had a bigger impact than KOBE..


THREAD IS OVER :roll:


3ball is turning into wheels before our eyes

Epic ass downfall

3ball 05-21-2019 10:42 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warriorfan
Lebron ties Jordan for highest vorp during a championship season....and completely dwarfs mj in career vorp....I had Jordan over LeBron but after this arbitrary advanced stat discovery it leads me to think otherwise.

It's okay brah, Curry beats lebron in championships because he knows a better way to play basketball than lebron (ball movement, efficient offense, clutch)

So it doesn't matter that lebron can match Curry in this one area (impact on team ortg) - because lebron-ball has a much lower ceiling than curry-ball and can't win

it's apples and oranges tbh - this stat should only be used to compare winning brands of ball like Kobe/curry/durant, otherwise a bad brand/ball-domination can inflate the stat like it does for lebron

warriorfan 05-21-2019 10:44 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3ball
It's okay brah, Curry beats lebron in championships because he knows a better way to play basketball than lebron (ball movement, efficient offense, clutch)

So it doesn't matter that lebron can match Curry in this one area (impact on team ortg) - because lebron-ball has a much lower ceiling than curry-ball and can't win

it's apples and oranges tbh - this stat should only be used to compare winning brands of ball like Kobe/curry/durant, otherwise a bad brand/ball-domination can inflate the stat like it does for lebron


LeBron’s vorp smashes Jordan. Thanks for showing me the ins and outs of all the obscure stats of basketball reference. I wouldn’t have come to the realization that LeBron > Jordan otherwise. :applause:

NBASTATMAN 05-21-2019 10:45 PM

Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?
 
KOBE WAS THE WORSE PLAYER IN THE 2010 NBA FINALS.

https://stats.nba.com/team/161061274... LastNGames=7

THANKS FOR THE NEW THREAD.. KOBE 'S NET RATING WAS HORRIBLE -17.2

:wtf: :banana: :hammertime: :party:


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