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Knicks PROMISE Curry: "We want you!"
[QUOTE][url]http://www.nbadraft.net/node/5605[/url]
A rumor that has been gaining steam is that the Knicks will select Stephen Curry with their 8th pick. We've received word that there could be truth to this from inside sources claiming that Curry chose to put his name into the draft this year based on the Knicks assuring Curry that they would use their lottery selection to draft him. [/QUOTE]
What? Who did you think I meant?
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That may be good for him, D'Antoni is the ultimate guard conscious coach.
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[QUOTE=smith]Hehe, you got me.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: me 2
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Probably the best situation for him. I think he'd be pretty good in that system.
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[QUOTE=smith]Hehe, you got me.[/QUOTE]
+ 1:roll:
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I'm not crazy about him in the NBA. In any system.
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[QUOTE=fatboy11]I'm not crazy about him in the NBA. In any system.[/QUOTE]
How can't you be crazy about him? He's undersized but his footwork is better then almost all NBA players and he can shoot the lights out. His passing game has gotten way better this year.
He's 6'3" which is the same as Eric Gordon, plays the same game and already played it better last year then EG. Even if Curry's ceiling is shooter off the bench how don't you want that on your team? He 'will' win big games for you so if you draft him and he's just a shooter, you get dibs on a low cost assassin from long range. You win.
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[QUOTE=indiefan23]How can't you be crazy about him? He's undersized but his footwork is better then almost all NBA players and he can shoot the lights out. His passing game has gotten way better this year.
He's 6'3" which is the same as Eric Gordon, plays the same game and already played it better last year then EG. Even if Curry's ceiling is shooter off the bench how don't you want that on your team? He 'will' win big games for you so if you draft him and he's just a shooter, you get dibs on a low cost assassin from long range. You win.[/QUOTE]Yeah, sure, he could be that. He could also be like any number of the other college scorer/shooter types that don't pan out. Right? That's just as likely a possibility as what you mentioned.
I just don't get a good feeling about him. Could I be wrong? Of course. But so could you so let's not act like he's some kind of slam dunk. Especially when we're talking about the 8th pick in the draft.
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loll i thought this was gonna be about eddy.
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Hah, you got me. :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=fatboy11]Yeah, sure, he could be that. He could also be like any number of the other college scorer/shooter types that don't pan out. Right? That's just as likely a possibility as what you mentioned.
I just don't get a good feeling about him. Could I be wrong? Of course. But so could you so let's not act like he's some kind of slam dunk. Especially when we're talking about the 8th pick in the draft.[/QUOTE]
I dunno, of course he could bust. But I'm not really sure how. I do kind of think he's a slam dunk. Lots and lots of guards in the NBA make a career shooting off screens 'n since he's more or less perfect at working screens for shots I dunno why he wouldn't be able to do that in the NBA. Thats just my honest opinion?
Which players are you thinking of who couldn't play in the big league?
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What up with Danilo, he gonna be healthy next year?
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[QUOTE=indiefan23]I dunno, of course he could bust. But I'm not really sure how. I do kind of think he's a slam dunk. Lots and lots of guards in the NBA make a career shooting off screens 'n since he's more or less perfect at working screens for shots I dunno why he wouldn't be able to do that in the NBA. Thats just my honest opinion?
Which players are you thinking of who couldn't play in the big league?[/QUOTE]Bryce Drew, Trajan Langdon and Luke Jackson immediately come to mind.
But make no mistake, when I say that guy might not "pan out", I'm not necessarily saying the guy won't have a career in the NBA, maybe even a long one. "Pan out" usually means that a guy comes with a certian amount of hype or high regard and that regard/hype translates accordingly to the next level. That's where I see the problem with Curry. I don't think he'll be as good as a lot of people think he'll be in the NBA.
But like you said, he's a shooter and that's a valuable assest. That only could earn him a long career.
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He'd be awesome in D'Antoni's system.
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[quote=indiefan23]How can't you be crazy about him? He's undersized but his footwork is better then almost all NBA players and he can shoot the lights out. His passing game has gotten way better this year.
He's 6'3" which is the same as Eric Gordon, plays the same game and already played it better last year then EG. Even if Curry's ceiling is shooter off the bench how don't you want that on your team? He 'will' win big games for you so if you draft him and he's just a shooter, you get dibs on a low cost assassin from long range. You win.[/quote] :oldlol: Even in a shallow draft, picking him 8th is preposterous. Better than EG, when, how, where?
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Dash, how is that in your avatar?
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[quote=fatboy11]Dash, how is that in your avatar?[/quote]Paul Mooney or the tag? I replaced the i in sh[COLOR=Black]i[/COLOR]t with an exclamation point.
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[quote=fatboy11]Dash, how is that in your avatar?[/quote]
Looks like Paul Mooney. It's who I always picture behind the keyboard when I see Dasher post.
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[QUOTE=Dasher]:oldlol: Even in a shallow draft, picking him 8th is preposterous. Better than EG, when, how, where?[/QUOTE]
As a pure shooter Curry is over Gordon. Have you not watched?
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[quote=indiefan23]As a pure shooter Curry is over Gordon. Have you not watched?[/quote]No he is not. Gordon gets beautiful elevation on his shot and is better at catching and shooting. Curry is an incredibly streaky set shooter. Gordon has better handles, and has every single physical advantage over except possibly length. Put Eric on a Southern Conference team and tell him to take as many shots as he pleases, he would have put up much better numbers than Curry because he can get to the rack at will with both athleticism, and herky jerky moves.
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[QUOTE=Dasher]Paul Mooney or the tag? I replaced the i in sh[COLOR=Black]i[/COLOR]t with an exclamation point.[/QUOTE]That's what I thought.
Sweet.
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Knicks promised Chandler the same thing, he got picked and it's been going well, so...
/wait and see mode on
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[QUOTE=Blue&Orange]Knicks promised Chandler the same thing, he got picked and it's been going well, so...
/wait and see mode on[/QUOTE]That was different, though. Wilson Chandler wasn't promised a spot in the top 10.
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[QUOTE=Dasher]No he is not. Gordon gets beautiful elevation on his shot and is better at catching and shooting. Curry is an incredibly streaky set shooter. Gordon has better handles, and has every single physical advantage over except possibly length. Put Eric on a Southern Conference team and tell him to take as many shots as he pleases, he would have put up much better numbers than Curry because he can get to the rack at will with both athleticism, and herky jerky moves.[/QUOTE]
Umm... I totally disagree. I didn't mention numbers once. Curry's footwork is impecable. With a pro team and a coach like D'Antoni to use him he will be an awesome. I refuse to use a term like 'herky jerky' to analyze a player.
Steph is going to kill people for his whole career. Eric Gordon, whom I'm a big fan of, don't get me wrong, will tail off when he loses any of his athleticism even by a half a step. Steve Francis used to be insane too, remember. Undersized athletic scoring guards not named Allen Iverson have incredibly short career paths.
'n I don't know how you slam Curry for playing in a small conference when Gordon plays for the Clippers. Curry proved himself playing big time competition. He can ball.
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Going 1-12 from deep is proving yourself. Curry is a smaller Robert Vaden with at great deal of pub because he was this year's chosen it guy. If your team picks him in the top 10, the GM should be fired. Every year there are comparable talents to Steph who go undrafted. He is not worth a first round pick, let alone a lottery pick.
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Kid is going to get abused by every guard in the NBA.
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[QUOTE=Dasher]Going 1-12 from deep is proving yourself. Curry is a smaller Robert Vaden with at great deal of pub because he was this year's chosen it guy. If your team picks him in the top 10, the GM should be fired. Every year there are comparable talents to Steph who go undrafted. He is not worth a first round pick, let alone a lottery pick.[/QUOTE]
I really do wish we were friends, cuz in 5 years I'll have insta-smack to go to any time you want to disagree with me. "yea, remember when you said Stephen Curry shouldn't be drafted in the top 10 of a brutally weak draft year, was a smaller Robert Vaden and wasn't much different then all the shooters who go undrafted?" "yea?" "Well, same thing." "Hey, you know his father sank more 3's in a season then anyone and had a 15 year career, right?" "yea, I knew that" "just checking"
It'd be great to bring up every time Curry sinks a dagger vs some team that didn't fight through a screen after a double team on their star during some huge playoff moment. That's beyond the fact that he's most likely capable of backing up PG too. Anyway...
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Come on now, Curry isn't as bad as people are putting him out to be. He'll be a fine player in D'Antoni's system. If D'Antoni could turn Barbosa, a guy who has virtually no point guard skills into the 6th man of the year, he shouldn't have problems with making Curry a serviceable player.
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[QUOTE=wang4three]Come on now, Curry isn't as bad as people are putting him out to be. He'll be a fine player in D'Antoni's system. If D'Antoni could turn Barbosa, a guy who has virtually no point guard skills into the 6th man of the year, he shouldn't have problems with making Curry a serviceable player.[/QUOTE]
Yea, exactly. How is saying that he's going to be small defensively on a Mike D'Antonio team make any sense? If guys like Boobie Gibson/Derek Fischer/Steve Kerr and hey, why not say Dell Curry, can be shooters on finalist/championship teams what reason in the world you would give for saying Stephen Curry could not?
He's already been looked over once when no major programs would take him. He destroyed some of those schools in the tournament. Curry's not going to shut anyone down but I can tell you one thing: there are going to be some teams killed by him.
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I hope he turns out like Ben Gordon with a passing ability.
Rookie averages:
12 PPG
4.5 APG
1.2 SPG
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[QUOTE=wang4three]Come on now, Curry isn't as bad as people are putting him out to be. He'll be a fine player in D'Antoni's system. If D'Antoni could turn Barbosa, a guy who has virtually no point guard skills into the 6th man of the year, he shouldn't have problems with making Curry a serviceable player.[/QUOTE]There's noticeable athleticism separating Barbosa and Curry, though. Not to say that should be a sticking point, but Barbosa has been as good as he is because he's fast and good at playing the passing lanes. For whatever reason, Curry just strikes me as a weak player when I think in terms of the NBA. I think that tournament run in '08 did wonders for his draft stock, but in the end, will earn him the label of "bust". Especially if the Knicks take him in the top 8.
I'm not really concerned about his ability to play point guard because too many guys have come in and shown that undersized shooter/scoring guards and be successful in the NBA. The only thing about that is that I would feel more comfortable if Curry had more explosiveness and strength.
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Well I don't mean he's exactly the same as Barbosa, but in a spread offense that D'Antoni does I'm sure he can find a way to make Curry very productive. The team screen and rolls as much as any team in the league and if D'Antoni is good at anything it's getting the ball to where it best fits his players. I'm sure he'll find a way to get Curry the ball where he likes it, whether it's off curls, screens, or just plain being open.
Barbosa looks like a shell of his former self under new coaching staff while Nate Robinson is looking ridiculously better than he has in any of his previous season with the Knicks. This system is just very, very guard friendly.
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[QUOTE=wang4three]Well I don't mean he's exactly the same as Barbosa, but in a spread offense that D'Antoni does I'm sure he can find a way to make Curry very productive. The team screen and rolls as much as any team in the league and if D'Antoni is good at anything it's getting the ball to where it best fits his players. I'm sure he'll find a way to get Curry the ball where he likes it, whether it's off curls, screens, or just plain being open.
Barbosa looks like a shell of his former self under new coaching staff while Nate Robinson is looking ridiculously better than he has in any of his previous season with the Knicks. Essentially, if you can shoot and move freely, you will be a successful player under D'Antoni.[/QUOTE]Good points. It appears this will be put the test.
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Dont the Knicks have enough gaurds?
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[QUOTE=oh the horror]Dont the Knicks have enough gaurds?[/QUOTE]
Not exactly. Duhon and Nate played a lot of minutes and I think at the end of season Duhon was pretty much worn out and Nate's engine was beginning to stall. D'Antoni loves to play small ball, so I don't think having too many guards will ever be a problem for him. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a line up of Duhon, Robinson, Curry in for stretches just for mismatch purposes.
The only thing I wonder about is how D'Antoni treats his rookies. He's never really been tested. It seemed like forever till Gallinari actually broke into the rotation and I think he's a better player than Steph.
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[QUOTE=fatboy11]Good points. It appears this will be put the test.[/QUOTE]
Just looked up Barbosa's stats and they seem identical to previous seasons, perhaps I was wrong there. However, it may just be me, but I felt he was a different player this season than before.
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[QUOTE=wang4three]Just looked up Barbosa's stats and they seem identical to previous seasons, perhaps I was wrong there. However, it may just be me, but I felt he was a different player this season than before.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say you were off. The Suns as a team seem to be a shell of themselves since Mike left.
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[QUOTE=fatboy11]I wouldn't say you were off. The Suns as a team seem to be a shell of themselves since Mike left.[/QUOTE]
Since they traded Marion. Stupid move. They should have traded Amare. Mistake.
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He,Earl Clark and Jennings are the only people i would want on the knicks in that area.So good to hear.