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Dr. Ice 10-11-2013 02:38 PM

Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
In fact, he says the only reason they have 2 three peats is because jordan took that break in between. If jordan had not went to baseball and decided to stay in basketball, they would have lost.

So let's stop disregarding hakeem's championships gentlemen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqyvAg7z5fA

Go Getter 10-11-2013 03:13 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Immortal
Pretty sure the majority of non-Jordan dick slobber already knew that.



I'm not sure but neither are you or Kerr. Stop being a trolling POS.:facepalm

(e) 10-11-2013 03:17 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
I'd never bet against MJ.

andgar923 10-11-2013 03:17 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Who would've wanted to bet against MJ tho?

The_Yearning 10-11-2013 03:18 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
How would Kerr know? How would anyone know for certain? Like Barkley said... if dude couldn't shoot he'd have no reason for anything.

andgar923 10-11-2013 03:30 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
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Originally Posted by The_Yearning
How would Kerr know? How would anyone know for certain? Like Barkley said... if dude couldn't shoot he'd have no reason for anything.


They used to say MJ couldn't 3Peat, he did that. He wanted to beat Magic and Bird, his next challenge/goal would've been Russell. Not that he could've beat or matched Russell's rings, but he would've been driven enough to NOT let him lose focus.

Who knows tho.

Kerr wasn't with them in the first 3peat. And just because he may have been drained and couldn't go any further mentally, it doesn't mean MJ wouldn't push and will himself and others to do so.

Dragonyeuw 10-11-2013 03:38 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
I think the 94 team had a great chance to win the title. Jordan was 31 at the time, Pippen( let's not forget how good he was at that point) and Grant were 28 and in their prime, BJ had developed into a dependable backcourt mate for MJ, and then you bring in Kukoc off the bench? Don't see why they couldn't have won in 94.

Now the 95 title, that's when I think fatigue, disinterest, injuries,etc could have set in and then top it off with Grant leaving for Orlando, leaving them paper thin up front. I'd say they lose in 95 even if Jordan hadn't retired.

kshutts1 10-11-2013 03:39 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Based on how well the Bulls did without Jordan there, I'd say he would likely have been enough to push them over the top.

But obviously we can't assume that the Bulls would win those two years, nor can we assume that they would still win those last 3... All things/factors would change.

NumberSix 10-11-2013 03:40 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andgar923
Who would've wanted to bet against MJ tho?

Probably Shaq and Penny in 95.

andgar923 10-11-2013 03:50 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
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Originally Posted by NumberSix
Probably Shaq and Penny in 95.


Really, that's your best answer?

What happened to them the following year MJ was in full force?

97 bulls 10-11-2013 03:50 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonyeuw
I think the 94 team had a great chance to win the title. Jordan was 31 at the time, Pippen( let's not forget how good he was at that point) and Grant were 28 and in their prime, BJ had developed into a dependable backcourt mate for MJ, and then you bring in Kukoc off the bench? Don't see why they couldn't have won in 94.

Now the 95 title, that's when I think fatigue, disinterest, injuries,etc could have set in and then top it off with Grant leaving for Orlando, leaving them paper thin up front. I'd say they lose in 95 even if Jordan hadn't retired.

This.

The 94 Bulls were essentially the 96 Bulls with Rodman taking Grants place and a Kukoc with two years NBA experience under his belt.

All Net 10-11-2013 04:01 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
MJ managed to recharge his batteries which played a big factor the 2nd time round. Winning year after year in what is such a long season takes a super human effort which is why if Miami don’t win it all again this year they shouldn’t be bashed for it.

NumberSix 10-11-2013 04:23 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andgar923
Really, that's your best answer?

What happened to them the following year MJ was in full force?

What exactly is "full force" and how was '95 not included.

Mr. Incredible 10-11-2013 04:27 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Coming from the biggest Bulls homer of all-time, that says something.

sportjames23 10-11-2013 05:56 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by (e)
I'd never bet against MJ.



This here. Anyone with common sense would say the same.

Lebron ass-eaters don't have common sense, doe.

secund2nun 10-11-2013 05:58 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andgar923
Really, that's your best answer?

What happened to them the following year MJ was in full force?


Rodman happened.

DuMa 10-11-2013 06:04 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
I think Kerr needs another punch in the face

andgar923 10-11-2013 06:06 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
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Originally Posted by secund2nun
Rodman happened.


So it wasn't MJ playing a full season and getting in full NBA shape, along with getting his team ready?

Or him getting used to his new team and them used to him?

The Bulls won 2 games and had other close games in 95. It's not as if they just got swept and demolished.

YES

Rodman helped and made a difference, but he wasn't the only or main reason. The Bulls with the previous squad and a full force MJ had a very legit chance at beating them without Rodman. With Rodman they just that much better.

Let us not forget that even MJ himself said he needed a full season to comeback which is the opposite of what he always wanted to do (only play the end of regular season).

secund2nun 10-11-2013 06:33 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andgar923
So it wasn't MJ playing a full season and getting in full NBA shape, along with getting his team ready?

Or him getting used to his new team and them used to him?

The Bulls won 2 games and had other close games in 95. It's not as if they just got swept and demolished.

YES

Rodman helped and made a difference, but he wasn't the only or main reason. The Bulls with the previous squad and a full force MJ had a very legit chance at beating them without Rodman. With Rodman they just that much better.

Let us not forget that even MJ himself said he needed a full season to comeback which is the opposite of what he always wanted to do (only play the end of regular season).


MJ getting in shape helped, but they would not have beat Orlando if they didn't get Rodman imo. MJ didn't guard Shaq. Orlando won in 6 and the next season they got swept by the same team. I know that most people want to paint it as MJ getting in shape as the main reason to make it fit the popular narrative, but that's more than just MJ getting in shape.

OldSchoolBBall 10-11-2013 06:35 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
They almost certainly would have won in '94, but in '95 there's a chance they lose if Grant still leaves. In '94 they would have had better talent overall, the best player, better coaching, and a proven championship nucleus. No way do they lose in '94.

TheReal Kendall 10-11-2013 06:42 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Kerr just talking. Where's the evidence? I don't see any reason why they couldn't win more than 3 in a row.

I went against MJ every finals and got my heart broken as a kid :(

bdreason 10-11-2013 06:45 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
When MJ left after the 3rd title, his heart obviously wasn't in the game anymore... so I doubt the Bulls would have won a 4th, let alone a 5th or 6th in a row.

97 bulls 10-11-2013 07:27 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
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Originally Posted by bdreason
When MJ left after the 3rd title, his heart obviously wasn't in the game anymore... so I doubt the Bulls would have won a 4th, let alone a 5th or 6th in a row.

Considering that the Knicks needed seven hard fought games to dispatch the Bulls then gave the Rockets seven tough games before losing to the Rockets due in large part to Starks bad shooting, id say if the Bulls had any shooting guard worth a snot they wouldve beaten the Knicks, Pacers, then the Rockets. And with Jordan, they dominate.

andgar923 10-11-2013 08:30 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bdreason
When MJ left after the 3rd title, his heart obviously wasn't in the game anymore... so I doubt the Bulls would have won a 4th, let alone a 5th or 6th in a row.


He was under investigation for gambling.

Bigsmoke 10-11-2013 08:57 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
The bulls would only lose in 95 if Grant still wanted to go to Desney World

Bandito 10-11-2013 09:02 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 97 bulls
Considering that the Knicks needed seven hard fought games to dispatch the Bulls then gave the Rockets seven tough games before losing to the Rockets due in large part to Starks bad shooting, id say if the Bulls had any shooting guard worth a snot they wouldve beaten the Knicks, Pacers, then the Rockets. And with Jordan, they dominate.

I think they could've won in 94, but I don't think they would've won with Grant leaving...

Odinn 10-12-2013 05:35 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Pick your poison.

threepeat twice
or
quadpeat once (or even pentapeat once)

You can not discredit Jordan's career with this kinda idiocy.

97 bulls 10-12-2013 06:32 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
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Originally Posted by Bandito
I think they could've won in 94, but I don't think they would've won with Grant leaving...

I agree. Contrary to what is some Bulls fan opinions, or better yet Jordan fans, the Bulls weren't winning any titles without some semblance of a low post defense.

Trollsmasher 10-12-2013 06:35 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
That's why MJ quit on the team (along with feeling guilty for mudering his father) - he was never able to overcome the hardest challenges.

He needed everything brought to him on a silver plate.

Ancient Legend 10-12-2013 07:26 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Says the guy who got punched in the face by MJ.

R.I.P. 10-12-2013 08:47 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Ice
In fact, he says the only reason they have 2 three peats is because jordan took that break in between. If jordan had not went to baseball and decided to stay in basketball, they would have lost.

So let's stop disregarding hakeem's championships gentlemen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqyvAg7z5fA


The best part was: We could never have won seven in a row and it was not because of you Kenny. :roll: :roll:

That was brilliant. Kerr is so underrated, because he is not a loudmouth, but he actually prepares for work unlike most other ex-players. Therefore he always comes accross prepared, knowledgable and occasionally throws out a gem like that. :applause: :applause:

PJR 10-12-2013 08:54 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
I think the would've won the 4th in a row in 94 had Michael not fooled around with baseball. But they certainly wouldn't have won in 95. Not if the same circumstances played out with Horace Grant's free agency.

Smoke117 10-14-2013 10:09 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Steve Kerr should have NO OPINION about this whatsoever. He joined the team in 94...so what did he know about the original three-peat besides being pounded by them? He actually played a lot of mins...a career high of 25mpg in 94 sharing mins with BJ armstrong and Pete Myers. I just don't really see why people cant' see them winning four in a row.

Mj had left and we all know that and they still won 55 games with Pippen missing 10 games and them going 4-6 during that span. Grant who was the 2nd best player also missed 12 games yet they still won 55 games. They replaced the best player in the world with a world class scrub in Pete Myers. If they had replaced Jordan with someone like Hershey Hawkins they might have beat the Knicks. Frankly they matched up better against the Pacers who they would have played in the ECF and then it would have been the Knicks who the Rockets needed 7 games to beat just like the Knicks needed 7 games (and a terrible call) to beat the bulls in 94.

Even if the Bulls coasted through the 93 season...every team amps it up in the playoffs and Pippen in his absolute prime, Grant in his prime, and Jordan? It's pretty hard to bet against that team.

The whole point though is why does Steve Kerr even have an opinion about the first three-peat? He did not join the team till 94. Jordan announced his retirement almost right before the season too, so Pippen had been working on his game and was in his absolute prime. (and it showed as he finished 3rd in MVP after Hakeem and Robinson) Pippen was universally considered the best perimeter player in the league in that 94 season. I just don't see why Kerr even has an opinion about a team he didn't join till Jordan left. How can he talk about the motivations or fatigue of players that he didn't even know? When he did join in 94 that was probably the scrappiest the Bulls had ever been. Obviously a lot of them had something to prove because Jordan was gone and they expected failure, but in general the triangle offense was never run so well as it was in 1994. Complete team offense. That was the whole goal of the plan and they played it to perfection. Pippen could have averaged 25ppg or so easily in 1994, but he was the ultimate team player and that is what made the team excel.

Replay32 10-14-2013 10:35 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Is it me, or is the thread title total wrong (Lies). I watched the clip and I never heard Kerr say they "couldn't win more than 3 in a row".

He said they "wouldn't win 7 in a row". And I actually agree with him.

aj1987 10-14-2013 10:54 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoke117
Steve Kerr should have NO OPINION about this whatsoever. He joined the team in 94...so what did he know about the original three-peat besides being pounded by them?

Steve Kerr, the guy who actually played on the Bulls, should not have an opinion, but you, a guy who hasn't played a second of professional basketball can? :biggums:

Smoke117 10-14-2013 11:23 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aj1987
Steve Kerr, the guy who actually played on the Bulls, should not have an opinion, but you, a guy who hasn't played a second of professional basketball can? :biggums:



Are you an idiot? Kerr was not part of the first three-peat. Why should he have an opinion on whether or not they could have gotten four in a row. He played with Scottie Pippen in his aboslute prime and the best perimeter player in the league, Horace Grant an 14/11 all star all 2nd team defensive player, BJ who you found his role as a scoring pg etc. Steve kerr wasnt' part of the original three-peat so he SHOULD HAVE NO OPINION. The fact that they were so good while replacing michael jordan with pete myers should make Steve KNOW they should have won it all in 94.

AintNoSunshine 10-14-2013 11:44 PM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andgar923
Really, that's your best answer?

What happened to them the following year MJ was in full force?



They got swept sir

aj1987 10-15-2013 12:08 AM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoke117
Are you an idiot? Kerr was not part of the first three-peat. Why should he have an opinion on whether or not they could have gotten four in a row. He played with Scottie Pippen in his aboslute prime and the best perimeter player in the league, Horace Grant an 14/11 all star all 2nd team defensive player, BJ who you found his role as a scoring pg etc. Steve kerr wasnt' part of the original three-peat so he SHOULD HAVE NO OPINION. The fact that they were so good while replacing michael jordan with pete myers should make Steve KNOW they should have won it all in 94.

Are YOU an idiot? He wasn't part of the three-peat, but he was on the '94 squad (which was going for the four-peat). ] Kerr played with Pippen and Grant. He gave his reasons as to why they wouldn't have won 7 in a row, even if Jordan played. Are you trying to say that you know what their mindset was, better than Kerr? :facepalm
I love how people try to act like they know what the players' mindset and physical levels are, better than the players themselves.

Hakeem would've destroyed the Bulls' frontline, BTW.

Bucket_Nakedz 10-15-2013 12:17 AM

Re: Kerr says bulls couldnt win more than 3 in a row
 
kerr said 7 in a row is impossible, he did not say more than 3. i think the bulls had a great chance to 4 peat. but anything more than 4, i will agree with kerr.


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