Is Westbrook now the consensus 3rd best player in the league?

A) no matter what anyone says, everyone on earth with a brain still takes lebron and kd 1 and 2 in a game to save their lives

B) don't give me the "he isn't a PG" shit - Westbrook proved during the playoffs that while you may hate him as someone charged with running the offense, he still can take over must-win games better than almost everybody.

How great is our #3? :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

paul

No.

Just no.

There is no consensus 3.

Nothing is consensus in ISH

[QUOTE=moe94]There is no consensus 3.[/QUOTE]

:applause:

[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]paul[/QUOTE]

I don't understand how one can say this nonsense, when they go head to head, and not only does Westbrook rape him, but Paul produces one of the biggest chokes yet seen in the history of the league, as he has done almost every single year.

The overrating of Chris Paul is just plain pathetic to be honest, but because it's simply disrepectful to the plethora of guards that have actually accomplished something in this league other than getting humiliated in the first or second round of the playoffs.

[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]paul[/QUOTE]

Paul did play pretty well against Westbrook...

[QUOTE=moe94]There is no consensus 3.[/QUOTE]

this

Durant isn't top 2.

[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]I don't understand how one can say this nonsense, when they go head to head, and not only does Westbrook rape him, [/QUOTE]
Post their head to head stats.

I think it is Westbrook, but it is possible that his postseason isnt the norm.

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Durant isn't top 2.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm

better than Durant but neither of them are top 3

[QUOTE=navy]Post their head to head stats.[/QUOTE]

I don't even care to look them up. Everyone watched the series.

There's a difference between consensus and unanimous, an opinion can definitely be in consensus on here. That being said, Westbrook at #3 isn't one of those opinions. CP3 has a very good case, as do a few other guys. I have Westbrook at #3 especially after the playoffs, but it's far from general agreement.

yes

Westbrook > Durant.

[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]I don't understand how one can say this nonsense, when they go head to head, and not only does Westbrook rape him, but Paul produces one of the biggest chokes yet seen in the history of the league, as he has done almost every single year.

The overrating of Chris Paul is just plain pathetic to be honest, but because it's simply disrepectful to the plethora of guards that have actually accomplished something in this league other than getting humiliated in the first or second round of the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

Between 08-10, Williams was better than Paul?

[QUOTE=moe94]Between 08-10, Williams was better than Paul?[/QUOTE]

Yes.

[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]I don't even care to look them up. Everyone watched the series.[/QUOTE]

Dodged like you're on DBZ.

[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]I don't even care to look them up. Everyone watched the series.[/QUOTE]

I watched the series, and I would hardly call it a rape. :no:

GOATBROOK AKA BATMAN! :bowdown: :bowdown:

[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]paul[/QUOTE]

Westbrook dominates head-to-head matches with Chris Paul.

Head-to-head is how Lebron got title as best player. He dominated Kobe, Durant and Rose.

Usually the top 2 players are consensus. 3-10 is always debatable

[QUOTE=JohnMax]Westbrook dominates head-to-head matches with Chris Paul.

Head-to-head is how Lebron got title as best player. He dominated Kobe, Durant and Rose.[/QUOTE]

0% of your post is true.


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Hardly domination.

Westbrook vs Chris Paul Head to Head

Regular Season ppg/asst/rebs/stl/turnovers fg/3pfg/ft%
Chris Paul 11 wins 8 losses 19.3/10.3/4.3/3.0/2.4 .487/.338/.898
Westbrook 8 wins 11 losses 18.8/6.9/4.4/1.7/3.9 .408/.286/.819

Post Season
Chris Paul 2 wins 4 losses 22.5/12.0/3.7/2.5/2.3 .510/.455/.750
Westbrook 4 wins 2 losses 27.8/8.8/6.0/1.8/4.2 .491/.346/.877

I definitely think that Westbrook surpassed CP3 this postseason, but let's not have revisionist history here.

[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]I don't understand how one can say this nonsense, when they go head to head, and not only does Westbrook rape him, but Paul produces one of the biggest chokes yet seen in the history of the league, as he has done almost every single year.

The overrating of Chris Paul is just plain pathetic to be honest, but because it's simply disrepectful to the plethora of guards that have actually accomplished something in this league other than getting humiliated in the first or second round of the playoffs.[/QUOTE]Stupid post.

Paul averaged 23/12 in that series and outplayed Westbrook in games 1, 4, and 6. That's not getting "raped".

What has he accomplished individually that Paul hasn't? He hasn't even made an All NBA 1st team or a defensive team yet.

Paul cannot stay in front of Westbrook and needs screens to free himself on offense.

[QUOTE=JohnMax]Paul cannot stay in front of Westbrook and needs screens to free himself on offense.[/QUOTE]

How many people can stay infront of Westbrook? Good thing he is one of the best pick and roll players of all time...

Like I said, I think Westbrook surpassed Paul this year, but lets not rewrite History. :no:

[QUOTE=JohnMax]Paul cannot stay in front of Westbrook and needs screens to free himself on offense.[/QUOTE]

Same can be said for John Stockton, Steve Nash, and a slew of superstar point guards. Overall, CP3 creates offense better than Westbrook does despite being much less athletic.

He would be if he didn't make cringe-worthy decisions all the time

[QUOTE]I don't understand how one can say this nonsense[/QUOTE]

Prepare to be not understanding it for some time.

Pauls few haters on the internet have never made a dent in the appreciation he has from basketball fans.

You are about to hear him called the best point in the league all season again and people will continue not caring about arbitrary shit like losing in round 2 vs round 3.

same idiots who think iverson is a superstar are the same idiots who think westbrook is.

no team has ever won with a score first pg while one of the GOATS is a pass first pg.

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Durant isn't top 2.[/QUOTE]

You're better than this.

I would say so.. maybe CP3 is more consistent and productive but WB goes HAM when it counts and has punked him H2H.

29/9/6 49 FG vs 22/12/4 51FG.. including one of the biggest chokes ive ever seen 1v1 vs westbrook in game 5

CP3 more efficient and leveled WB more explosive, and dominant.