Look at this speed by a 265 lbs guy
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3A6QclmOc[/url]
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Look at this speed by a 265 lbs guy
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3A6QclmOc[/url]
Seen that. Lowry was way ahead of him too before LeBron took off.
His speed never took a drop off, we were worried about his quickness and first step.
No kidding he's super fast. That's exactly what I said after that play. He can just turn it on and sprint quick.
Not Worthy
He's supuer fast but let's not pretend that Lowry was running a full speed either. He was like "fu(k it I am not stopping that tank" :lol
That is one hell of an athlete folks ...
[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Now that is one hell of an athlete ...[/QUOTE]
Absurd.
Now, if only James White had game.
Not thread worthy.
negged.
[QUOTE=Bandito]He's supuer fast but let's not pretend that Lowry was running a full speed either. He was like "fu(k it I am not stopping that [B]Freight Train[/B]" :lol[/QUOTE]
fixed, much faster which adds up too more power in impact.
[QUOTE=Money 23]Absurd.
Now, if only James White had game.[/QUOTE]
Just imagining that isn't fair. :oldlol:
Pretty cool that he's in this years dunk contest though. The guy's hangtime is unreal.
Bron with the quickness
[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Just imagining that isn't fair. :oldlol:
Pretty cool that he's in this years dunk contest though. Guy's hangtime is unreal.[/QUOTE]
It is ... and that explosion is ridiculous. There is a point in all his free-throw line dunks, where it seems like in mid-air he jumps AGAIN yet his feet never touch the ground for propulsion. Like he just keeps elevating and elevating. But to be honest, he's not an in game dunker. He's a dunk contest guy.
When I played for DePaul on the practice squad, they used to get us seats right behind the bench. My freshman year we were still in the same conference as Cincinnati. So I got to see this guy from floor level in warm ups doing dunks. And my god, it's un-real. Then as the game started my thoughts shifted to how terrible of a basketball player he was, even though he's an insane athlete.
what's with these retarded over the top numbers that Lebron weighs? He's more like 250lbs if even that.
[QUOTE=NattyPButter]what's with these retarded over the top numbers that Lebron weighs? He's more like 250lbs if even that.[/QUOTE]
He came into the league at 240 lbs....
[QUOTE=AngelEyes]He came into the league at 240 lbs....[/QUOTE]
And he probably weighs like 260 now, max. But I've heard people call him 275, etc. It's absurd. He doesn't weigh THAT much.
[QUOTE=Money 23]It is ... and that explosion is ridiculous. There is a point in all his free-throw line dunks, where it seems like in mid-air he jumps AGAIN yet his feet never touch the ground for propulsion. Like he just keeps elevating and elevating. But to be honest, he's not an in game dunker. He's a dunk contest guy.
[B]When I played for DePaul on the practice squad[/B], they used to get us seats right behind the bench. My freshman year we were still in the same conference as Cincinnati. So I got to see this guy from floor level in warm ups doing dunks. And my god, it's un-real. Then as the game started my thoughts shifted to how terrible of a basketball player he was, even though he's an insane athlete.[/QUOTE]
Nice man. You def got more game than me. :oldlol:
You know what's funny? Once White annihilates this years contest, teams are gonna be throwing themselves at him. No game? Broke fundamentals? Who gives a shit. He can dunk the basketball!
iirc, NY only signed him for this year. I could see that moron Jim Buss giving him a multiyear deal.
[QUOTE=AngelEyes]He came into the league at 240 lbs....[/QUOTE]
only problem is that wasn't his real weight. Look at guys like Melo 230lbs, Ibaka 235, Blake Griffin 250lbs, and Josh Smith 225lbs. Now tell me James weight 265lbs. The NBA lies about height and weight like WWE. They want them to be bigger then life to the average person.
[QUOTE=NattyPButter]only problem was that wasn't his real weight.[/QUOTE]
I see so your eyes can determine the weight of a player? Cav fans delusional as always
[QUOTE=NattyPButter]only problem is that wasn't his real weight. Look at guys like Melo 230lbs, Ibaka 235, Blake Griffin 250lbs, and Josh Smith 225lbs. Now tell me James weight 265lbs. The NBA lies about height and weight like WWE. They want them to be bigger then life to the average person.[/QUOTE]
True. I met Iverson when I had season tickets to the Pistons. Heights claimed he was what? 6'? I met him and he was my height, exactly, only with MUCH longer arms. My pops, who is 6'3 was a solid half a head taller than him.
NBA players in person are very tall, yes, but they are more long than anything else. Long skinny legs, extremely long arms. They aren't very stocky. Ironically why I hate the NBA 2k player models, and prefer the Live player models.
Any NBA cat you see on tv, and they look bulky, subtract 10 pounds. TV adds 10 pounds, which is very visible flesh. In person they are much more sleek and streamlined.
[QUOTE=Money 23]And he probably weighs like 260 now, max. But I've heard people call him 275, etc. It's absurd. He doesn't weigh THAT much.[/QUOTE]
You're right, 275 is absurd.
[QUOTE=Money 23]True. I met Iverson when I had season tickets to the Pistons. Heights claimed he was what? 6'? I met him and he was my height, exactly, only with MUCH longer arms. My pops, who is 6'3 was a solid half a head taller than him.
NBA players in person are very tall, yes, but they are more long than anything else. Long skinny legs, extremely long arms. They aren't very stocky. Ironically why I hate the NBA 2k player models, and prefer the Live player models.
Any NBA cat you see on tv, and they look bulky, subtract 10 pounds. TV adds 10 pounds, which is very visible flesh. In person they are much more sleek and streamlined.[/QUOTE]
When MJ played baseball you could see how lean NBA players are compared to baseball players. He didn't look right.
[QUOTE=Money 23]His speed never took a drop off, we were worried about his quickness and first step.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. It was never about full-court speed, it was more about the fact that he seemed to lose the ability to blow by his man with ease going 1on1. I actually agree with that, young bron had a better first step for sure. It isnt too much of a stretch to say that his increased bulk is slowing down his first step.
[QUOTE=NattyPButter]what's with these retarded over the top numbers that Lebron weighs? He's more like 250lbs if even that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Money 23]And he probably weighs like 260 now, max. But I've heard people call him 275, etc. It's absurd. He doesn't weigh THAT much.[/QUOTE]
Lebron himself said he is 260+ in an interview with magic
Back in cavs days before shaq came.Delonte west in an interview when asked who is the heaviest guy he said lebron.Big Z weighed around 260-265lbs back then.
In a miami report during camp they said he weighed 266lbs and was in excellent shape.
Most people who have seen him live says he is much bigger then they thought.
Lebron is mostly being compared to howard.Their upper body arent that far off.
He is most definitely 260+.I dont know how much exactly but every single detail points to him being 260lbs+.
If you still dont believe it.Thats your idiocy.Nothing more.
[QUOTE=red1]Yeah. It was never about full-court speed, it was more about the fact that he seemed to lose the ability to blow by his man with ease going 1on1. I actually agree with that, young bron had a better first step for sure. It isnt too much of a stretch to say that his increased bulk is slowing down his first step.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely not, bro. In fact, if I was his trainer, I'd ask him to cut his weight down to what he looked like at in 2006 or 2007. It helps the aging process. It would allow him to play his perimeter game at a high level, without excessive need for picks, and he could still play his post game. All that weight he has now, while cutting and trying to change directions as basically a power forward sized POINT GUARD, that takes its toll on your ligaments, knees, and ankles.
MJ lost weight to fight age, Kobe has lost weight to fight age. Bron needs to do the same thing. Unless to extend his career he fully plans to morph into Karl Malone, but a superior passing, athletic version. He's got a long career ahead of him, but I like him playing PG, so I'd advise him if I knew him to cut his weight down to what he was in the 2006 or 2007 seasons.
But ... that Miami club life be killing that weight loss with all the drinking. It's hard to compete with club LIV packed to the brim with fine, smoking, exotic, latina snatch.
:facepalm my life ... these guys have it made.
[QUOTE=Money 23]Absolutely not, bro. In fact, if I was his trainer, I'd ask him to cut his weight down to what he looked like at in 2006 or 2007. It helps the aging process. It would allow him to play his perimeter game at a high level, without excessive need for picks, and he could still play his post game. All that weight he has now, while cutting and trying to change directions as basically a power forward sized POINT GUARD, that takes its toll on your ligaments, knees, and ankles.
MJ lost weight to fight age, Kobe has lost weight to fight age. Bron needs to do the same thing. Unless to extend his career he fully plans to morph into Karl Malone, but a superior passing, athletic version. He's got a long career ahead of him, but I like him playing PG, so I'd advise him if I knew him to cut his weight down to what he was in the 2006 or 2007 seasons.
But ... that Miami club life be killing that weight loss with all the drinking. It's hard to compete with club LIV packed to the brim with fine, smoking, exotic, latina snatch.
:facepalm my life ... these guys have it made.[/QUOTE]
Lmao true. His perimeter game is going to fall off three years from now if he doesnt lose weight but for some reason I dont think he will go that route and will instead continue what he has been doing the past few seasons learning the inside out game and working on his postscoring.
It sucks that we probably wont be seeing the hyperathletic pointguard lebron covering the whole court but I think in a few years he will be a very different yet equally effective player. I can see 32-33 year old lebron being a defensive force with a well developed postgame. Since duncan is a centre bron will have a chance to be goat at two positions. KG, malone, barkley, dirk - bron has enough time to surpass them all since he already won a chip playing powerforward
[QUOTE=red1]Lmao true. His perimeter game is going to fall off three years from now if he doesnt lose weight but for some reason I dont think he will go that route and will instead continue what he has been doing the past few seasons learning the inside out game and working on his postscoring.
It sucks that we probably wont be seeing the hyperathletic pointguard lebron covering the whole court but I think in a few years he will be a very different yet equally effective player. I can see 32-33 year old lebron being a defensive force with a well developed postgame. Since duncan is a centre bron will have a chance to be goat at two positions. KG, malone, barkley, dirk - bron has enough time to surpass them all since he already won a chip playing powerforward[/QUOTE]
Chea, if he doesn't lose weight and continue to the perimeter game. He will probably evolve into a elbow extended PF, akin to Karl Malone, with superior passing ability, and off the dribble capabilities. Him training with Hakeem was him already acknowledging he will need to evolve with age. That's why in 2014 he needs to head back to Cleveland and try and win a ring with Kyrie Irving.
Cool, another debate about LeBron's weight.
[QUOTE=AngelEyes]When MJ played baseball you could see how lean NBA players are compared to baseball players. He didn't look right.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. So lanky, so lean. Their legs, and arms are just so long.
[QUOTE=AngelEyes]He came into the league at 240 lbs....[/QUOTE]
Yeah like how Austin Rivers skinny ****in ass came into the league at 200 lbs, get the **** out of here. LeBron is 250 at most he isn't that big, he has big shoulders that give the illusion that he's this monstrous guy.
Actually I think the main difference with Lebron and other players similarly big(Josh Smith,Griffin, Howard,..) is in the legs not in the upper body. He has extremely massive legs compared to others, especially Dwight who has chicken legs.
So it's not the upper body which makes the difference in weight, it's the lower body.
He is as fast as ever. His quickness and vertical has dipped a bit because of the mass he has put on, but It's a good exchange for his improved inside game
[QUOTE=LBJ 23]Actually I think the main difference with Lebron and other players similarly big(Josh Smith,Griffin, Howard,..) is in the legs not in the upper body. He has extremely massive legs compared to others, especially Dwight who has chicken legs.
So it's not the upper body which makes the difference in weight, it's the lower body.[/QUOTE]
This. his weight gain is looks to be mostly in the legs. [IMG]http://sinbapointforward.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/lebron-james-past-present-dunk.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=BrickingStar]I see so your eyes can determine the weight of a player? Cav fans delusional as always[/QUOTE]
What does being a Cavs fan have anything to do with what I said? Just so you know Lebron is my favorite player in the NBA, but you're not going to see me believing some bullshit weight about him. I always question his weight when ppl mentioned even when he played for the Cavs.
[QUOTE=LBJ 23]Actually I think the main difference with Lebron and other players similarly big(Josh Smith,Griffin, Howard,..) is in the legs not in the upper body. He has extremely massive legs compared to others, especially Dwight who has chicken legs.
So it's not the upper body which makes the difference in weight, it's the lower body.[/QUOTE]
Blake Griffin has big legs also. Lebron's legs are not even bigger then Melo's or Smiths. It's an exaggerated weight.
LeBron's shoulders and thicker legs than most NBA superstars do give him a bigger, stronger appearance.
[QUOTE=daballa13]Yeah like how Austin Rivers skinny ****in ass came into the league at 200 lbs, get the **** out of here. LeBron is 250 at most he isn't that big, he has big shoulders that give the illusion that he's this monstrous guy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NattyPButter]What does being a Cavs fan have anything to do with what I said? Just so you know Lebron is my favorite player in the NBA, but you're not going to see me believing some bullshit weight about him. I always question his weight when ppl mentioned even when he played for the Cavs.
Blake Griffin has big legs also. Lebron's legs are not even bigger then Melo's or Smiths. It's an exaggerated weight.[/QUOTE]
I am gonna have to repeat myself again
The man himself said he is 260+ in an interview with magic.So if you are gonna accuse him of lying about his own weight .........
Back in cavs days before shaq came.Delonte west in an interview when asked who is the heaviest guy he said lebron.Big Z weighed around 260-265lbs back then.
In a miami report during camp they said he weighed 266lbs and was in excellent shape.
Most people who have seen him live says he is much bigger then they thought.
Lebron is mostly being compared to howard.Their upper body arent that far off.
He is most definitely 260+.I dont know how much exactly but every single detail points to him being 260lbs+.
If you still dont believe it.Thats your idiocy.Nothing more.
[QUOTE=arifgokcen]I am gonna have to repeat myself again
The man himself said he is 260+ in an interview with magic.So if you are gonna accuse him of lying about his own weight .........
Back in cavs days before shaq came.Delonte west in an interview when asked who is the heaviest guy he said lebron.Big Z weighed around 260-265lbs back then.
In a miami report during camp they said he weighed 266lbs and was in excellent shape.
Most people who have seen him live says he is much bigger then they thought.
Lebron is mostly being compared to howard.Their upper body arent that far off.
He is most definitely 260+.I dont know how much exactly but every single detail points to him being 260lbs+.
If you still dont believe it.Thats your idiocy.Nothing more.[/QUOTE]
I dont care what you said...since he would never comment on his weight when he played for Cleveland. He's marketing himself if he said that. Thats all I have to say is look at Ibaka and Griffin both have strong builds and weigh less and are even taller. Oh by the way I've seen him live a total of 11 times. If Lebron is 265 then Blake Griffin should be 285-290.
[QUOTE=NattyPButter]I dont care what you said...since he would never comment on his weight when he played for Cleveland. He's marketing himself if he said that. Thats all I have to say is look at Ibaka and Griffin both have strong builds and weigh less and are even taller. Oh by the way I've seen him live a total of 11 times. If Lebron is 265 then Blake Griffin should be 285-290.[/QUOTE]
I think you're confusing being ripped with mass. Ibaka and Griffin are more cut than Lebron, not heavier
[QUOTE=LikeABosh]I think you're confusing being ripped with mass. Ibaka and Griffin are more cut than Lebron, not heavier[/QUOTE]
Trust me I'm not confusing anything. You are talking to a guy that is into bodybuilding. Griffin has more mass and is more cut then Lebron, Ibaka body is is a little leaner then Lebrons but he's just taller and more cut.
[QUOTE=NattyPButter]Trust me I'm not confusing anything. You are talking to a guy that is into bodybuilding. Griffin has more mass and is more cut then Lebron, Ibaka body is is a little leaner then Lebrons but he's just taller and more cut.[/QUOTE]
Why would Lebron lie about his weight? He has said it himself that he's over 260.