Using a combination of stats, awards, impact on the team, championship run, and impact on the league.
ABA is included.
Strong Candidates:
Wilt
Oscar
Kareem
Dr J
Magic
Bird
MJ
Shaq
D. Robinson
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Using a combination of stats, awards, impact on the team, championship run, and impact on the league.
ABA is included.
Strong Candidates:
Wilt
Oscar
Kareem
Dr J
Magic
Bird
MJ
Shaq
D. Robinson
Tyreke Evans!
That I've seen since I started watching? Probably Shaq. Or David Robinson.
Definitely Robinson imo.
You forgot Duncan on your strong candidates list. His rookie year was probably better than Bird's.. :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=T_L_P]Definitely Robinson imo.
You forgot Duncan on your strong candidates list. His rookie year was probably better than Bird's.. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Fair enough. But was it better than Sampson or Hakeem's?
Truly great big men are more equipped to come in and make lasting immediate impact.
[QUOTE=T_L_P]Definitely Robinson imo.
You forgot Duncan on your strong candidates list. His rookie year was probably better than Bird's.. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
only thing you could blame duncan is his FT%. hehe. imagine... if he would be a solid 87-90% shooter.....wow. i mean there isnt anything he didnt archieve in his career....but like shaq...a little bit better FT% and and he would be EVEN MORE scarry
Kareem takes this easily, dominant from day one.
Best 18 year old season - LeBron
Best 19 year old season - LeBron
Best 20 year old season - LeBron
Absolutely no arguments
[QUOTE=dunksby]Kareem takes this easily, dominant from day one.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=dubeta]Best 18 year old season - LeBron
Best 19 year old season - LeBron
Best 20 year old season - LeBron
Absolutely no arguments[/QUOTE]
Yeah, since guys like Kareem and Wilt couldn't join the NBA until they were 22.
And MJ couldn't come out until after his junior season.
[QUOTE=pastis]only thing you could blame duncan is his FT%. hehe. imagine... if he would be a solid 87-90% shooter.....wow. i mean there isnt anything he didnt archieve in his career....but like shaq...a little bit better FT% and and he would be EVEN MORE scarry[/QUOTE]
Yeah, his FT shooting is odd. Sometimes it was low-60s, others it was in the 80s.
His form on the line is horrible these days (the inward twisting of his ankle makes me cringe). But he's been a solid 75% shooter for the past 3 years. :cheers:
[QUOTE=Marchesk]Fair enough. But was it better than Sampson or Hakeem's?[/QUOTE]
Duncan's? I think it was better than Hakeem's, but I don't know nearly enough about Sampson to properly judge.
shaq
[QUOTE=dunksby]Kareem takes this easily, dominant from day one.[/QUOTE]
Wilt's first NBA game:
43 points, on 17-27 shooting, with 28 rebounds, and an estimated 17 blocked shots.
Led a last place team into the EDF's, which included an "at-the-limit" first round game of 53 points and 22 rebounds, where he then hung a 30-26 .500 series on Russell, which included a "must-win" game of 50 points and 35 rebounds. And, had he not badly injured his hand in a melee at the end of game two, and was worthless in game three (35 minutes, 12 points, on 6-13 shooting, with 15 rebounds...in a 120-90 loss), his Warriors might have done better than losing a game six by two points.
ROY and MVP.
As for OP...if you include post-season play...
Wilt and Magic.
Bill Russell too. Led the league in rebounds and blocks (I'm assuming the latter) and led his team to a championship.