Discussing the Bulls chances of beating the Heat in a 7 game series

With Rose they had both the first seed in both 2011 and 2012. I don't see a reason for that to change. They didn't have Jimmy Butler in those years either, so adding him makes the team much better.

The Heats cast is only getting older and less effective. Other than LeBron there is no gamechanger on the roster and it will be an uphill battle for LeBron to bring Miami a championship with a Wade and Bosh that become even less effective.

If we look at the top 5 players on either team, 4 of them are Bulls. Heres the rankings.
-LeBron James
-Joakim Noah
-Jimmy Butler
-Taj Gibson
-Derrick Rose

This has some strong potential of being like the Cleveland/Boston series

Those 4 Bulls have higher value than any other player on the Heat. Then they also have guys like Luol Deng, Boozer, Hinrich. This team has a lot of depth and there is no way they'll be able to keep this team together. Guys will be gone when they find themselves unable to afford all of these players.

The only way Miami are the favorites is if Wade/Oden show zero problems regarding injuries. Especially Oden. He is the second most important player after LeBron on the team. If he can give them 20 minutes of quality 7 footer play that will be huge.

Nice "just incase LeBron loses I have a made up excuse for him" thread.:applause:

Heat still stacked and da favorites.

Noah, Butler and Gibson are better than Wade? Butler and Gibson are better than Bosh?:facepalm

Oden, the guy who played 80 NBA games in his career is the 2nd most valuable player? :oldlol:

No, dumbass, the two-time defending champs with a 4x MVP at his peak are and should be the favorites. Stop trying to come up bullshit reasons to try and prop-up LeBron's next ring (if there even is a next) before the season even plays out.

[QUOTE=aj1987]Noah, Butler and Gibson are better than Wade? Butler and Gibson are better than Bosh?:facepalm[/QUOTE]

Do you seriously think the Bulls would trade Noah for Wade? Good god. :roll:

Wade was actually a negative on the court for the majority of the playoffs. Imagine if they had Noah to guard centers and rebound/protect the rim while sliding Bosh to his natural position and giving Ray Allen/Mike Miller the builk of the minutes at the two guard. The Heat would have beat the 2001 Lakers 15-1 playoff record.

Now imagine the Bulls if they lose Noah and have Wade with his 15 PPG and sub 50%TS. They get swept by the Nets.

If Wade, Noah, Butler, Gibson were all free agents right now and asking for the same contract, Wade would field by far the least interest. He'd be forced to take the MLE.

[QUOTE=KG215]No, dumbass, the two-time defending champs with a 4x MVP at his peak are and should be the favorites. Stop trying to come up bullshit reasons to make LeBron's potential 3rd ring before the season even plays out.[/QUOTE]

We all know LeBron is the best player. He has been for more than half a decade now.

But winning a title is a team accomplishment. The Bulls have a better team than the current Heat who get closer to Miami Cavaliers status every day. LeBron is better now than he was as a Cavalier so he's been able to overcome adversity despite the flaws of his teammates .

[QUOTE=TonyMontana]Do you seriously think the Bulls would trade Noah for Wade? Good god. :roll: [/quote]
You seem to be forgetting that Wade is still a 21/5/5/2/1 on 52% player, who plays excellent defense. He would average more if he's not sharing the ball with Lebron.

[QUOTE=TonyMontana]Wade was actually a negative on the court for the majority of the playoffs. Imagine if they had Noah to guard centers and rebound/protect the rim while sliding Bosh to his natural position and giving Ray Allen/Mike Miller the builk of the minutes at the two guard. The Heat would have beat the 2001 Lakers 15-1 playoff record.[/quote]
Yeah, you're right. Lets give Allen and Miller starter minutes. One guy who's 36 and the other with a broken back. Is Lebron going to play 48 minutes a game? There's no one on the who who can create their own shots consistently and create for others consistently other than Wade and Lebron. With Lebron on the bench, and Wade not on the team, the Heat are going to get destroyed. Also, the Heat would've lost to the Spurs in 5 if it wasn't for Wade.


[QUOTE=TonyMontana]Now imagine the Bulls if they lose Noah and have Wade with his 15 PPG and sub 50%TS. They get swept by the Nets.[/quote]
Joakim Noah with this 11/10 on 45% took them to the second round, right?

[QUOTE=TonyMontana]If Wade, Noah, Butler, Gibson were all free agents right now and asking for the same contract, Wade would field by far the least interest. He'd be forced to take the MLE.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm And this is why you are the resident f[COLOR="Black"]u[/COLOR]cktard. Wade is a top 10 player. Lebron would still be ringless without Wade.

Bulls aren't a factor. At all.

[QUOTE=TonyMontana]With Rose they had both the first seed in both 2011 and 2012. I don't see a reason for that to change. They didn't have Jimmy Butler in those years either, so adding him makes the team much better.

The Heats cast is only getting older and less effective. Other than LeBron there is no gamechanger on the roster and it will be an uphill battle for LeBron to bring Miami a championship with a Wade and Bosh that become even less effective.

[B]If we look at the top 5 players on either team, 4 of them are Bulls. Heres the rankings.
-LeBron James
-Joakim Noah
-Jimmy Butler
-Taj Gibson
-Derrick Rose
[/B]
This has some strong potential of being like the Cleveland/Boston series

Those 4 Bulls have higher value than any other player on the Heat. Then they also have guys like Luol Deng, Boozer, Hinrich. This team has a lot of depth and there is no way they'll be able to keep this team together. Guys will be gone when they find themselves unable to afford all of these players.

The only way Miami are the favorites is if Wade/Oden show zero problems regarding injuries. Especially Oden. He is the second most important player after LeBron on the team. If he can give them 20 minutes of quality 7 footer play that will be huge.[/QUOTE]
:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: You need to be banned for this statement you fu.cking ret.ard. Are you godamn serious???

Thread title is appropriate.

Bulls always impress in the regular season but Thibs plays all his guys too much to the point where theyre falling into peices by the post season. Noah has a chronic foot injury that might never heal. Hinrich withered into the injury reserve by that point. Even Luol Deng literally was hospitalized at the point the Bulls were ready to play the Heat.

Thibs has a great philosphy for winning basketball. Its just not meant to last the entire season+postseason

You're talking about Wade being injured yet Rose is the one coming off a torn ACL. Wade averaged 22 ppg, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, 1 block and shot a career high fg%. He was dealing with a bone bruise throughout the playoffs. No structural damage. There is no reason to believe he won't have a very good playoff run like in 2012. I guess I can get over you saying Joakim Noah is better than Wade because you are a complete Lebron nut hugging ****tard. But Jimmy Butler and Taj ****ing Gibson??? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Rose wouldn't have any more of an impact than Nate Robinson did. Rose-tards will scoff at that, but keep it real. You know its true.

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Rose wouldn't have any more of an impact than Nate Robinson did. Rose-tards will scoff at that, but keep it real. You know its true.[/QUOTE]

youre the same person that says rose=brandon jennings.

[QUOTE=TonyMontana]get closer to Miami Cavaliers status every day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TonyMontana]If we look at the top 5 players on either team, 4 of them are Bulls. Heres the rankings.
-LeBron James
-Joakim Noah
-Jimmy Butler
-Taj Gibson
-Derrick Rose[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TonyMontana]If[B] Wade[/B], Noah, Butler, Gibson were all free agents right now and asking for the same contract, Wade would field by far the least interest. He'd be [B]forced to take the MLE.[/B][/QUOTE]

If you're trying to figure out why everyone thinks you're a f***ing retarded attention seeking whore, there's a few reasons right there.

And if you're not trolling, and genuinely believe any of those three quotes, then just do everyone a favor and leave.