Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

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09' Lakers ORtg [I][COLOR="White"].[/COLOR][/I]with[I][COLOR="White"].''[/COLOR][/I] Kobe - 112.0
09' Lakers ORtg w/out Kobe -.. 94.0
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[Color="white"].................................[/color][url=https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612747/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1][I][COLOR="darkred"]Difference - 18.0[/COLOR][/I][/url] [B][SIZE="1"][COLOR="Green"]<----- link to NBA.com source[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]



18' Warrior ORtg [I][COLOR="White"].[/COLOR][/I]with[I][COLOR="White"].''[/COLOR][/I] Durant - 114.4
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Durant - 96.8
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[Color="white"].................................[/color][url=https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612744/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs][I][COLOR="darkgreen"]Difference - 17.6[/COLOR][/I][/url]



16' Cavalier ORtg [I][COLOR="White"].[/COLOR][/I]with[I][COLOR="White"].''[/COLOR][/I] lebron - 115.9
16' Cavalier ORtg w/out lebron - 98.4
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[Color="white"].................................[/color][url=https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612739/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1][I][color="blue"]Difference - 17.5[/COLOR][/I][/url]



18' Warrior ORtg [I][COLOR="White"].[/COLOR][/I]with[I][COLOR="White"].''[/COLOR][/I] Curry - 113.5
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 107.3.
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[Color="white"].................................[/color][url=https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612744/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs][I][COLOR="Navy"]Difference - 6.2[/COLOR][/I][/url]



19' Warrior ORtg [I][COLOR="White"].[/COLOR][/I]with[I][COLOR="White"].''[/COLOR][/I] Curry - 119.0
19' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 102.7
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[Color="white"].................................[/color][url=https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612744/onoffcourt-summary/?sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1][I][COLOR="Navy"]Difference - 16.3[/COLOR][/I][/url][/INDENT]



How does this not prove that Kobe had the biggest offensive impact?
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Ortg and Drtg are garbage stats

Op has turned into a lebron stan, next he will be in here citing VORP and BPM

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[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]

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[QUOTE=warriorfan]Ortg and Drtg are garbage stats

Op has turned into a lebron stan, next he will be in here citing VORP and BPM

You’ve fallen off bruh[/QUOTE]
Nah, Lebron's numbers in his winning playoffs is worse than Kobe's and Durant's

Only 17.5 in 2016 playoffs (kyrie at 19.4) and 13.8 in 2013
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Curry>MJ.



3ball is so shook

[QUOTE=3ball]Nah, Lebron's numbers in his winning playoffs is worse than Kobe's and Durant's

Only 15.8 in 2016 playoffs and 13.8 in 2013[/QUOTE]

What about lebrons career vorp?

[QUOTE=warriorfan]What about lebrons career vorp?[/QUOTE]
Attached to games played.. means nothing, like win shares

Btw, added lebron to the OP - 17.5 in the 16' playoffs, but Kyrie had a bigger impact with 19.4

[QUOTE=3ball]Attached to games played.. means nothing, like win shares

Btw, added lebron to the OP - 17.5 in the 16' playoffs, but Kyrie had a bigger impact with 19.4[/QUOTE]

Lebron ties Jordan for highest vorp during a championship season....and completely dwarfs mj in career vorp....I had Jordan over LeBron but after this arbitrary advanced stat discovery it leads me to think otherwise.

[QUOTE=3ball]Attached to games played.. means nothing, like win shares

Btw, added lebron to the OP - 17.5 in the 16' playoffs, but Kyrie had a bigger impact with 19.4[/QUOTE]


SO FISHER had a bigger impact than KOBE.. IN THE NBAFINALS


THREAD IS OVER :roll:

[url]https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612747/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=5[/url]

[QUOTE=warriorfan]Lebron ties Jordan for highest vorp during a championship season....and completely dwarfs mj in career vorp....I had Jordan over LeBron but after this arbitrary advanced stat discovery it leads me to think otherwise.[/QUOTE]
welcome to the Bron fam :cheers: :rockon: :pimp:

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]SO FISHER had a bigger impact than KOBE..


THREAD IS OVER :roll:[/QUOTE]

3ball is turning into wheels before our eyes

Epic ass downfall

[QUOTE=warriorfan]Lebron ties Jordan for highest vorp during a championship season....and completely dwarfs mj in career vorp....I had Jordan over LeBron but after this arbitrary advanced stat discovery it leads me to think otherwise.[/QUOTE]
It's okay brah, Curry beats lebron in championships because he knows a better way to play basketball than lebron (ball movement, efficient offense, clutch)

So it doesn't matter that lebron can match Curry in this one area (impact on team ortg) - because lebron-ball has a much lower ceiling than curry-ball and can't win

it's apples and oranges tbh - this stat should only be used to compare winning brands of ball like Kobe/curry/durant, otherwise a bad brand/ball-domination can inflate the stat like it does for lebron

[QUOTE=3ball]It's okay brah, Curry beats lebron in championships because he knows a better way to play basketball than lebron (ball movement, efficient offense, clutch)

So it doesn't matter that lebron can match Curry in this one area (impact on team ortg) - because lebron-ball has a much lower ceiling than curry-ball and can't win

it's apples and oranges tbh - this stat should only be used to compare winning brands of ball like Kobe/curry/durant, otherwise a bad brand/ball-domination can inflate the stat like it does for lebron[/QUOTE]

LeBron’s vorp smashes Jordan. Thanks for showing me the ins and outs of all the obscure stats of basketball reference. I wouldn’t have come to the realization that LeBron > Jordan otherwise. :applause:

KOBE WAS THE WORSE PLAYER IN THE 2010 NBA FINALS.

[url]https://stats.nba.com/team/1610612747/onoffcourt-summary/?Season=2009-10&SeasonType=Playoffs&sort=DIFF_OFF_RATING&dir=1&LastNGames=7[/url]

THANKS FOR THE NEW THREAD.. KOBE 'S NET RATING WAS HORRIBLE -17.2

:wtf: :banana: :hammertime: :party: