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The Backcourt
Whittling the backcourt to four contributors – Rookie Peyton Siva was always a long shot to crack the rotation, given the three veteran point guards ahead of him in the pecking order. But lottery pick Kentavious Caldwell-Pope – because of his ideal size and defensive and 3-point-shooting potential – was at least a candidate to unseat one of the four veteran guards available to Cheeks.
It’s now likely that Caldwell-Pope will be in the guard rotation when Washington comes to town next Wednesday to start the regular season, along with Will Bynum and Chauncey Billups and, perhaps, Siva for stopgap minutes.
Stuckey is due to have his broken thumb X-rayed and re-examined on Friday, two weeks since surgery to repair the broken tip suffered when he slammed it in his car door while carrying his infant son. Cheeks said that if he’s cleared to play, he’ll go back on the court and be evaluated for readiness. So it’s still conceivable Stuckey could be ready for the season opener.
-- NBA.com/pistons
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After watching todays game against washington - KCP passed up on a lot of open looks where he just pump faked instead of shooting it up. Maybe this was in response to the above article but he needs to take those shots in my opinion. An open look is an open look... Every other aspect to his game is very promising though, his hustle, defense, rebounding and even his ball handling and passing is very encouraging..
Also, it is CLEAR as day to me that Siva does not belong in this league. He looked terrible out there, all of his passes look like turnovers, he provides nothing on offense or defense. When he is on the court we look terrible...
Bynum on the other hand looks incredible, his chemistry with both the big guys as well as guys like Billups is amazing. His play is making me believe we don't need Stuckey...
On a totally seperate note, Seraphin is reminding me of a young Jermaine Oneal on offense. He has some serious potential...
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KCP is doing everything well except for shooting the ball. He's not going to be a regular rotation guy until he starts knocking down shots. Siva will only be on the roster just because he'll be an extremely affordable player that will be cap friendly. He won't see any real time. Bynum has been decent. I like the way he runs the pick and roll. It's clear that we'll need a healthy Stuckey this season. If not I expect Singler to get some minutes at SG, which is something I wouldn't have guessed going into the season.
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Singlers shot yesterday from deep looked both confident and smooth - obviously he has focused on this aspect in the off-season.
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The Celtics are not extending Jordan Crawford and Marshon Brooks. One of them would be a nice pickup at the 2.
I really want the Pistons to get Marcus Smart for some reason in the draft next season.
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[QUOTE=idizzle]The Celtics are not extending Jordan Crawford and Marshon Brooks. One of them would be a nice pickup at the 2.
I really want the Pistons to get Marcus Smart for some reason in the draft next season.[/QUOTE]
Marshon Brooks is more of a 6th man. We'll need a top 5 pick to land Marcus Smart.
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[QUOTE=dd24]Marshon Brooks is more of a 6th man. We'll need a top 5 pick to land Marcus Smart.[/QUOTE]
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Not sure how I like the backcourt
But the frontcourt is the real focus this season
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Chauncey and Will are the starters.
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Stuckey is back in the rotation today. He's going to come off the bench. It sounds like they want to see him play and make sure he feels comfortable. If he does he might end up starting. I think Jennings is supposed to be back on Sunday. The backcourt is about to change pretty soon.
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One thing is CLEAR as day watching this game, Stuckey and Bynum do not gel at all when they are both on the court... It is a bad combo together... They both struggle with ball security and shooting - it is way too predictable...
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[QUOTE=Aussie Dunker]One thing is CLEAR as day watching this game, Stuckey and Bynum do not gel at all when they are both on the court... It is a bad combo together... They both struggle with ball security and shooting - it is way too predictable...[/QUOTE]
They struggled together in previous seasons too. I'd personally like to see Stuckey run the point and KCP next to him. I'm not sure if it would work, but I'd like to see the experiment. It's at least a lot of size.
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This current game in which we absolutely choked was caused by bad reactive coaching instead of positive proactive coaching. Leaving Bynum and Singler on the court for too long at the end there cost us through turnovers and bad shots (bynum) and terrible handling and unsure hands (Singler).
If we injected Billups in earlier in the last instead of in the final 3 minutes, we would of won by about 6...
This just shows that we did absolutely everything we could possible to lose this game against the team who got to the Western conference finals last year... We clearly looked better than them on their own home court...
Without our starting PG Jennings...
This is all very positive out of a loss - which should of been an easy win, up by 7 with 1.10 left in the 4th... Still frustrating
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This team should be better defensively. We've given up over 100 points in both of our games. That's what's concerning me. We've actually scored more offensively than I thought we would though.
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Also, Josh Smith took 11 from deep tonight... I am fin with him taking open looks (in which he had about 6 or 7) but he did chuck up about 4 or 5 real bad attempts... I hope this gets rectified as the season goes on instead of him becoming Antoine Walker the 2nd..
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Will Bynum: There's a lot of new faces on the team. I really like Kentavious Caldwell-Pope. He has the potential to become a great defender. He has a high basketball IQ and he plays basketball the right way. Chauncey said he was like a Tony Allen/Bruce Bowen type of energetic defender. Everybody was very competitive during the preseason: myself, Brandon Jennings, Josh Smith, Greg Monroe, Charlie Villanueva... Everybody! ********* - See more at: [url]http://*********.com/rumors.htm#sthash.LtbYcO7p.dpuf[/url]
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Evan Turner and the Sixers GM aren't seeing eye to eye. The Raptors are willing to trade anyone on the team except for except for Jonas Valanciunas. I could really see the Pistons getting Evan Turner from the Sixers or DeMar DeRozan from the Raptors and put them at the 2.
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[QUOTE=idizzle]Evan Turner and the Sixers GM aren't seeing eye to eye. The Raptors are willing to trade anyone on the team except for except for Jonas Valanciunas. I could really see the Pistons getting Evan Turner from the Sixers or DeMar DeRozan from the Raptors and put them at the 2.[/QUOTE]
It's definitely a possibility. The whole Sixers not wanting Turner thing is weird to me. He's probably the best scorer on their roster. They're already going to be one of the top 3 worst teams in the NBA. Why make the roster worse? He's still really young and could play with a guy like Wiggins or Parker too. I do think they want a first round pick in this years draft for him. We don't have that to offer. I also think the Pistons are going to wait for a while before making any moves. We still haven't seen the whole team together yet. We also don't know exactly what we have with KCP. If anything happens it will be at the deadline.
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I like both Turner and Derozen - but both lack outside shooting which is exactly what we need at SG given our frontcourt and spacing issues...
I would love to have Turner if we had a shooting SF like a Batum or Gallinari or Granger
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I really think KCP is our best answer at SG. Obviously not right now, but in the future we need to see what this kid can do. He can for sure play defense. He's supposed to have a good outside shot. We need to see if that starts falling. If it can, he'll be very good in that role.
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Problem is according to multiple sources, we are going to roll with a 4 guard rotation, with KCP likely to be the unlucky exclusion given Jennings, Billups, Bynum and Stuckey will be the front runners.
This confirms my belief we need to trade Stuckey away for the best possible deal right now, to allow room for KCP to develop otherwise his progress will be put on hold... Stuckey played well the other day, but I would rather develop KCP who we want around for the next 5+ years...
Stuckey + Jennings for Ty Lawson + 2nd rounder
So much easier to do on NBA2K14! haha...
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I hope Jennings will become the PG that the Pistons can build around but I still hope the Pistons can get Marcus Smart in the draft. Lance Stephenson is a free agent. I could see him in a Pistons uniform.
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[QUOTE=idizzle]I hope Jennings will become the PG that the Pistons can build around but I still hope the Pistons can get Marcus Smart in the draft. Lance Stephenson is a free agent. I could see him in a Pistons uniform.[/QUOTE]
I don't think the Pistons will have the cap space to sign Stephenson & Monroe. How do you figure we land Marcus Smart? He's projected as a top 5 pick.
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Anything is possible. I didn't expect the Pistons to get Jennings.
If they don't land Smart in the draft they should get Jahii Carson. Been hearing good things about him.
Myck Kabongo went undrafted. I think he would be a nice pick up.
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I don't see any way we can get a lottery pick, unless this team ends up being much worse than expected. The only asset we have is Monroe. I don't see them trading him for a random lottery pick before the deadline. There will be no way to do a sign & trade for a lottery pick because his salary will be so much higher than a rookies that other players would need to be thrown in. At that time the draft would've already taken place (since free agency starts after that) and the teams drafting those players probably want to hold onto them vs. signing a long term max deal. It's far better to have a promising rookie on a rookie contract with the way the cap is now.
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Stuckey and Jennings for Lawson,
Smith for Batum,
Drummond
Monroe
Batum
KCP
Lawson
Imagine that over the next 5-7 years...
I love NBA2K14 haha...
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I like Lawson. For an undersized guy he plays well. I just don't want him on my team. I don't think he'll ever win a championship as a starter. Toward the end of his career if he was coming off the bench he has a chance to be a good 6th man for a winning team though.
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Danny Green is a free agent too.
Gary Harris and Shazz Napier cold be top picks in the draft too
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Danny Green isn't what we're missing. The other two guys we wouldn't have a shot at since we don't have a first rounder this year, although I do think Harris would be available where we would be picking at (if we didn't give it to Charlotte...) and he would be a pretty good fit.
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I have mix feeling about this backcourt. If Jennings could play under control more he would be okay. I think the Pistons should bring in a veteran SG to play along Jennings like Eric Gordon. The Pelicans are looking to move him. Him and Jennings could be dope together. If the Pistons decide to give up on Jennings they should get one of these guards.
Jahii Carson
Russ Smith
Shabazz Napier
Jordan Clarkson
Semaj Christon
Quinn Cook
Spencer Dinwiddie
Ian Miller
I like KCP so far this season. I'm torn between him become the starting SG down the line.
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[QUOTE=idizzle]I have mix feeling about this backcourt. If Jennings could play under control more he would be okay. I think the Pistons should bring in a veteran SG to play along Jennings like Eric Gordon. The Pelicans are looking to move him. Him and Jennings could be dope together. If the Pistons decide to give up on Jennings they should get one of these guards.
Jahii Carson
Russ Smith
Shabazz Napier
Jordan Clarkson
Semaj Christon
Quinn Cook
Spencer Dinwiddie
Ian Miller
I like KCP so far this season. I'm torn between him become the starting SG down the line.[/QUOTE]
I'm torn on KCP too. It's funny we all wanted MCW and he looks like he's going to be a superstar now. I want no part of Eric Gordon. That huge contract for the same numbers as Stuckey puts up. Sure Gordon hits a few more threes but overall Stuckey has a better FG%. He's actually been our go to scorer this year. The guys need to play better team defense right now. Gordon definitely isn't going to help in that area. It's not a significant enough upgrade to justify the contract.
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You can't have a star player at every position, teams NEED players like KCP. Well, what KCP is projecting to be anyway... Hard nosed grity elite defending wing player with (hopefully) a rangey offense...
Great complimentary piece.
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I like Derozen, but I don't know how we could end up with him.
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[QUOTE=dd24]I like Derozen, but I don't know how we could end up with him.[/QUOTE]
It would have to involve Monroe.
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[QUOTE=Nastradamus]It would have to involve Monroe.[/QUOTE]
Then it's clearly a horrible trade. Monroe by far is the best player in that deal. I don't like the idea of giving up Monroe as easily as a lot of other Detroit fans do.
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[QUOTE=dd24]Then it's clearly a horrible trade. Monroe by far is the best player in that deal. I don't like the idea of giving up Monroe as easily as a lot of other Detroit fans do.[/QUOTE]
I agree fwiw
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[QUOTE]If the Detroit Pistons opt for the cap space instead of matching the inevitable max offer sheet for Greg Monroe, perhaps adding an improved perimeter shooter and distributor like Stephenson could be an option.
This is probably pretty unlikely, though, as Stephenson will likely already have plenty of offers on the table by the time Detroit's space became available, which probably won't happen in the first place.
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I think Detroit is going to do everything they can to keep Monroe around. Outside of that I don't see us being much of a player in free agency this offseason.
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[url]http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140119/SPORTS0102/301190028/1127/Pistons-will-face-tough-calls-next-month-trade-deadline-approaches[/url]
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I think Keith Appling is a possibility for us in the 2nd round. I'm not sure Detroit will be drafting a PG though. Jennings has been pretty solid for us. Bynum is a good backup. Siva isn't a NBA player (IMO) but they did just use a draft pick on him last year. Unless Detroit starts dropping a bunch more games I'm just not excited about the draft. I'm really bummed we're going to give Charlotte a #9 or #10 pick this year potentially. If Joe D didn't make all the crazy moves then this year we would've had the draft pick that would've completed our team and put us back in the thick of things.