Steph Curry is the GOAT
 

Greatest shooter. He would destrroyy MJ!!!! He shoot threes nearly 40 percent his whole career!!!!!! He's better than Mikey boi!! :lol

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Well considering «Mikey boi» is 56 years old, I’d have to agree

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he would destroy mj in AAA 1v1!!!!!

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Nearly 40%? Try 43.6% at 8.2 attempts per game over a 10-year career, he'll be #1 in threes made all-time by age 32, barring injury. He's also currently 5th all-time in 3PT%. Now we've seen a bunch of great RS 3-PT shooters, but Curry's also 40.1% at 10.5 attempts per game for his Playoff career and holds the Finals record for most 3s in a series. He already has most 3s made for Playoffs Career at just age 31, already being 85 ahead of Ray Allen.

Steph Curry is the Michael Jordan of the 3-Point era.

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Good man.

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Is OP 12 years old?

Serious question

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I'm 14.

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You look like a kind, endearing man who doesn't cuss. Hello sir.

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Okay so you're And1's alt.

Good to know.

And, cringe.

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What's Stephs fg% and 3p% in the finals when it matters most?

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I'll save u the trouble of having to look it up. It's below 40% and this year as a 31 year old it was 34%. As curry gets older and further away from his prime his three point percentage will continue to decline if he ever actually gets back to the finals which I highly dought.

If we compare mj and Steph in the finals at the same age mj was actually more efficient. Yes he took alot less but he was still very efficient.

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Never would've guessed :rolleyes:

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Probably higher than Lebrons finals win %

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1.)

2019 Regular Season "closest defender" stats on 3-pointers


Curry





Total 3-point attempts per game:. 11.6
Attempts that are "open" (4-6 feet) or "wide open" (6+ feet):. 9.3
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Percentage of attempts that are "open" or "wide open":. 80.2%

Conclusion on Curry - he needs space to shoot threes, thus hurting him in the clutch compared to good mid-range players, who don't need any room and can get the shot whenever they want



TLDR: 80% of Curry's threes are open... The league average is 89%

Common knowledge: today's spacing strategy gives defenses no chance to cover the ground (hence the open threes)



2.)


Curry is bad at contested mid-range:

2019 Playoffs




https://stats.nba.com/player/201939/...nType=Playoffs

TLDR:. Curry shoots 29% on tightly contested two's outside of 10 feet, and 39% on contested - so he shoots bad at contested mid-range, which means he's bad at contested jumpers overall because 80% of his threes are open (see #1 above).

So MJ is a better jumpshooter than Curry because he's better at contested jumpers, while being the goat mid-range shooter..

and MJ shot 40% on threes on 4 attempts during a championship run and in the Finals without practicing threes like today's player, so just naturally because his form is goat and he has goat fundamentals

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here we go :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Yeah maybe but at the end of the day Steph will still end up with the same amount of chips as LeBron but with 0 fmvp's. Even Kobe has 2. Both are way better than Steph's fmvp % which is 0%

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Curry is the greatest player ever under 6'8 :applause:

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Nope prime Wade was better especially in the finals. He was just as impactful on the offensive end and way more impactful on the defensive side of the ball. I won't even bother going in about how he pails compared to mj. Curry is not even in that conversation

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The "spacing strategy" is only possible if you have guys that can stretch the floor—someone like Curry.


Another way of interpreting this is that Curry can shoot from farther away so he had more options and took them. Jordan not having that same ability had to settle for harder shots.

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Nope 2016 Curry is better than any MJ or Wade season. first and only unanimous MVP GOAT shit and his playoff run in 2017 is as good or better than any playoff run ever

28/6/7 off 66% TS 16-1 record when has MJ ever had a playoff run that dominant

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Hey Manny I noticed you started stanning Curry recently out of nowhere.

Where do you have him on your top 11 all time list? Just a reminder of your current list, here it is:

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89% of the entire league's threes are taken with 4+ feet of room - so the entire league is getting open threes just like Curry - again, it's today's spacing strategy that stretches the defense out so defenders can't recover in time


When Curry "decided" to shoot closer and more contested shots, he shot poorly - that's the point - he shoots poorly on contested mid-range and most of his threes are open - he simply isn't a good contested jumpshooter, which makes MJ the superior jumpshooter

And btw - MJ has championship runs where he shot at today's standard (40%+ on 4+ attempts), and shot 35.2% on 2.2 attempts in the 85-93' playoffs (thru 3 championship rings).. He simply chose to be a low-volume 3-point shooter/higher-caliber basketball player
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A good shooter will move so that he gets shots that are more open. Compare Curry to Kyrie Irving for example. Irving has some awesome finishes, one might even be tempted to say it's proof he is a better shooter than Curry. Look more closely though and you will notice Curry gets open better. It is a skill in its own right. It's not as flashy but it is more effective.


From what I can see MJ had one year where he attempted 3.8 3-pointers per game at a rate of 38.9% in 1993. That's pretty much it unless you also count a year when the 3-point line was moved closer. But on another year with the closer 3-point line MJ shot at a rate of 19.4%. MJ is terrific at many things but any suggestion he is in Curry's class as a 3-point shooter is absurd.

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Stop it with this ts garbage. You can be crap from the field and go 3/3 from the foul line and it will boost your true shooting to respectable. Curry's 2016 season is nowhere close to the best ever. Mj had multiple seasons that were better. His 87-88 he won MVP and dpoy. He scored 35 a game on 54% shooting. The following year mj went 33/8/8 on 54% shooting while still playing elite defence.

As far as playoffs goes. 28/6/7 is really good but Steph wasn't even the best player on his team that year in the playoffs. Kd had the exact same playoff stats( while playing defence mind you) while having a way better finals. Scored almost 9 more points a game on way better efficiency again while playing elite defence.

Steph is nowhere near mj man but good try

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NEVAAA!!!!! Curry is GOATTTT!!!!!!!!

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Troll thread srry folks:roll:

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Your such a Hater

Currys 2016 season is literally the best ever in virtually every single metric. He led a team to 73 wins ffs and orchestrated one of the greatest NBA offense ever with only Klay as the only other decent scoring threat

Only LeBron and MJ had seasons better than Curry in 2016 in the 3 point era

Curry is at least on par with MJ on offense and arguably better

"Not close" my ass

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I'm not a hatter at all. I've said many times Steph is amazing. He's just no mj is all. Yeah his 2016 "regular season" was close offensively to mj's best but the NBA season includes the playoffs also. The playoffs and finals given the competition and importance is more important than the regular season even though it's less games. Curry's 2016 playoffs is nowhere near most of mj's playoff runs. Curry had 25 a game that year in the playoffs on good efficiency. Mj only has one playoff season below 29 and has like 6 or 7 above 35 a game. All on good efficiency. Curry dosnt have any playoff runs of 30 or more. I won't even go in on how much better mj is in the finals.

There's levels to this shit and curry isnt on mj's level

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unfortunately, going into next season, I don't see Stephen Curry being anything more than a bench player. The Golden State Warriors rely more on Draymond Green to create plays than Curry.

what good is having perhaps the best 3 point shooter by percentages yet being ranked at #21 in team offensive rebound? as to the amount of attempts, they didn't have a player with a disparity in 2PA compared to the rest of the team to justify Curry's shot attempts.

as to it should be a team effort on those 2 point field goals, unfortunately that same argument would tie back to 3 point attempts as well. the demonstration of a complete lack of team concept.

and Klay Thompson is essentially overweight, or their away record wouldn't take such a big toll

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Curry has a bigger offensive impact than MJ

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Change in Team ORtg when Kobe/Durant/Curry leave the floor

Playoffs


09' Lakers ORtg .with.'' Kobe - 112.0
09' Lakers ORtg w/out Kobe -.. 94.0
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.................................Difference - 18.0 <----- link to NBA.com source



18' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Durant - 114.4
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Durant - 96.8
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.................................Difference - 17.6



18' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Curry - 113.5
18' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 107.3.
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.................................Difference - 6.2



19' Warrior ORtg .with.'' Curry - 119.0
19' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 102.7
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.................................Difference - 16.3

So Kobe had the biggest offensive impact... :confusedshrug:


Notice how I don't even need to use MJ in this example.. I can just use mini-MJ (Kobe)...

But we already know that the Bulls ORtg cratered from #1 during the first 3-peat to #14 in 1994 without him.. Bulls were actually #2 all-time in 1992
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10 Cavs with LeBron - 108.6
10 Cavs without LeBron - 90.2
Difference - 18.4
https://stats.nba.com/team/161061273...F_RATING&dir=1


So LeBron had the GOAT offensive impact damm :bowdown: :bowdown:

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You're such a ****ing idiot on this point.

You say he's 29% on "tightly contested mid-range shots" but the image clearly shows he only took 0.4 "very tight" mid-range shots per game vs 1.1 "tight mid-range shots" at ~39% per game, either way the sample size is very small but the image clearly shows he shoots well above 30% on tightly contested mid-range shots, which he barely attempted since it's not within his team's best interest to shoot those shots unless forced to. He plays a different game so to say that he's a worse jump-shooter on the fact that he barely shoots contested mid-range shots is just being dishonest.

And it's a joke that you make it sound like Jordan was this god who shot like 50% on highly-contested mid-range shots when that's far from the truth, most of his shots were close to wide open with how good his teams were at creating those shots for him. Curry's numbers on open mid-range shots are among the best in the league, we've been through this before where I pulled up Curry's jump-shooting numbers throughout the years and he was as good as MJ at them when he did shoot them at a volume from mid-range in his earlier years.

The 3-point statistic is a joke as well because the sample size for "very tight" is hilariously small at 0.2, which means that he's a smart player who doesn't jack up bad threes unless forced to by the defense/shot-clock.

Curry's easily the greatest shooter of all-time by all metrics. Not only does he crush any other 3-point shooter (RS record, Playoffs record, Finals record) but he also has the highest FT% all-time.

It's fine. Jordan doesn't have to be the best at everything. You don't have to lose your shit any time someone says that Player X is better at something than Jordan because you don't have to be the best at everything to be the GOAT. Winning and consistency alone is enough.

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Curry is easily the GOAT offensive player

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Yeah ok he's hasn't even been the best offensive player on his team the last few years. Curry only has one scoring titlle and only one season of 30 points or more. He only has 4 seasons of 25 or more. I won't even go in on Steph and his post season and finals scoring. He's nowhere near the goat offensive player. Y'all are crazy with this shit.

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Scoring isn't everything on offense you clown KD is a better scorer than Curry but has nowhere near the impact and offensive gravity that Curry possesses

Your the one that's crazy acting like Curry is apparently nowhere near the GOAT offensive player when the stats and number suggest that he is

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No it dosnt. curry needs a thousand screens to score the way he does. When teams are switching and disciplined on defence curry can be contained as we've seen in countless finals games. Kd on the other hand dosnt need screens he can iso anyone and get a good look anytime. There's no defending kd. You just do your best and hope he misses.

And Curry's stats don't back it up actually. There are many players with better offensive stats in the regular season and especially playoffs and finals. At best the only argument youd have is that Curry's 2015-16 regular seasons was one of the best offensively ever. It was definitely one of the most exciting to watch I will say that.

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Ed Davis.