Which one would you rather pick to surround your superstar in order to win championships. Shortcut #1 or Option #2?
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Which one would you rather pick to surround your superstar in order to win championships. Shortcut #1 or Option #2?
I would take the most dominant force to ever play this game (that i have seen at least)...
I would take the guy that has 2 more rings, 2 more fmvps and 1 more mvp...
...and I would take the guy that alone produced overall better numbers than what Bosh/Wade combined produce today...
Wade and Bosh have a combined 3 rings (2 in one year) with one Finals MVP.
Shaq has 4 rings with three FMVPs. Should have been 5ive rings but we know what happened with one of them.
This is a pretty easy decision really.
Unless you are talking right now, than Wade and Bosh over a 41 year old Shaq. Hell, I'd take current Chris Kaman over a 41 year old Shaq.
[QUOTE=pauk]I would take the most dominant force to ever play this game (that i have seen at least)...
I would take the guy that has 2 more rings, 2 more fmvps and 1 more mvp...
...and I would take the guy that alone produced overall better numbers than what Bosh/Wade combined produce today...[/QUOTE]
:biggums:
You are not very good at math.
...and I would take the guy that alone impacted his team overall better than what Bosh/Wade combined impact their team today...
Shaq i would take over 99.99% of players in NBA history.... maybe even 100%....
No need to sweat it pauk, you can take shortcut #1, no one will judge you here...
Wade is my favorite player, but I'd take Shaq over anyone. Dude would make any team a contender right now.
[QUOTE=Yao Ming's Foot]:biggums:
You are not very good at math.[/QUOTE]
...that or i did a typo, Shaq has 1 more ring than Wade/Bosh combined, 2 more than Wade, 3 more than Bosh... yay... whatever the case is he got more... now please dont try to derail the thread and get back to the topic, try make a valid basketball response....
[QUOTE=plowking]Wade is my favorite player, but I'd take Shaq over anyone. Dude would make any team a contender right now.[/QUOTE]
Would the current Bobcats be a contender?
Kemba - Henderson - MKG - Mullens - Shaq?
[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]No need to sweat it pauk, you can take shortcut #1, no one will judge you here...[/QUOTE]
Nah, i want more team success... you can go with "shortcut" #1...
The difference between these "shortcuts" is that one guy was the best player in the world / best player in his team / mvp / fmvp of that team, a guy who actually CARRIED that team to a championship......... and one guy was a sidekick, who got handed 3 rings on a silverplate.... so i would assume "shortcut" #2 would have been much more easier road...
Pretty funny that Bosh's TS% in the playoffs last year is greater than Shaq's peak TS% during any title run. Too bad Shaq never mastered FTs.
[QUOTE=pauk]...that or i did a typo, Shaq has 1 more ring than Wade/Bosh combined, 2 more than Wade, 3 more than Bosh... yay... whatever the case is he got more... now please dont try to derail the thread and get back to the topic, try make a valid basketball response....[/QUOTE]
Your math is off everywhere. Your entire comment was simply wrong. Bosh and Wade are good for 40 pts a game. Shaq never averaged more than 30 in the regular season. What kind of conversation do you expect to have if you simply make up facts?
[QUOTE=pauk]Nah, i want more team success... you can go with "shortcut" #1...
The difference between these "shortcuts" is that one guy was the best player in the world / best player in his team / mvp / fmvp of that team, a guy who actually CARRIED that team to a championship......... and one guy was a sidekick, who got handed 3 rings on a silverplate.... so i would assume "shortcut" #2 would have been much more easier road...[/QUOTE]
29.4 PPG/ 7.3 REB/ 6.1 ASS 56 TS%
101.8 DEF RAT 50-32
99.6 DEF RAT 55-27
98.9 DEF RAT 56-26
98.0 DEF RAT 58-24
15-1 RECORD
vs
30.3 PPG/9.7 REB/5.6 58 TS%
:confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=pauk]Nah, i want more team success... you can go with "shortcut" #1...
The difference between these "shortcuts" is that one guy was the best player in the world / best player in his team / mvp / fmvp of that team, a guy who actually CARRIED that team to a championship......... and one guy was a sidekick, who got handed 3 rings on a silverplate.... so i would assume "shortcut" #2 would have been much more easier road...[/QUOTE]
So you think its harder to hack a shaq than to eliminate the combined threat Wade AND bosh pose?
[QUOTE=Yao Ming's Foot]Your math is off everywhere. Your entire comment was simply wrong. Bosh and Wade are good for 40 pts a game. Shaq never averaged more than 30 in the regular season. What kind of conversation do you expect to have if you simply make up facts?[/QUOTE]
Bosh & Wade in their 1 playoff championship run together averaged:
36 ppg
13 rpg
Shaq in one of his playoff championship runs averaged alone:
31 ppg
15 rpg
Shot way more efficiently...
Obviously, stats is not the entire story... Shaq was simply more impactful/dominant on both ends than Wade/Bosh are today combined, did you ever see prime Shaq play? Thats the "facts i make up"...