[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwDWBfIWDy0[/url]
I found myself saying jesus christ countless times throughout the video.
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwDWBfIWDy0[/url]
I found myself saying jesus christ countless times throughout the video.
Kids gonna be a beast... I still think Julius Randle is the best player in '13 tho.
Never realized that he wears #22. Did Simeon HS officially retire Ben Wilson's #25 jersey instead of having their best player wear it in a tribute to Ben?
Lol my HS team would have smacked Simeon this year.
Wiggins is going to reclassify and he will top them all...
Jabari is a freak. Great size and world class skill.
But I still don't think he has the athleticism to be a superstar in the NBA..
[QUOTE=IGotACoolStory]Wiggins is going to reclassify and he will top them all...
Jabari is a freak. Great size and world class skill.
But I still don't think he has the athleticism to be a superstar in the NBA..[/QUOTE]
Dude still has a ways to grow, in some of those clips he was 16 years old and already doing moves a lot of pro SFs could not attempt in game. Once he gets a college weight and conditioning he will be a beast.
[QUOTE=Go Getter] he was 16 years old and already doing moves a lot of pro SFs could not attempt in game. [/QUOTE]
No.
Just no.
[QUOTE=IGotACoolStory]Wiggins is going to reclassify and he will top them all...
Jabari is a freak. Great size and world class skill.
But I still don't think he has the athleticism to be a superstar in the NBA..[/QUOTE]
Spoken like a true Wiggins fan. Parker is the real deal. And definitely athletic enough to be a star in the NBA. For his size, his handles are unbelievable. Can handle the ball like a guard.
And his first step/hesitation move is enough to get him open and past his defender. Watch the video. Dude has no trouble getting open and getting his shot off.
And if there is one thing about Chicago HS basketball competition - may not always be the tallest players, but they are all tough and fast. Fast!!! And Jabari has no trouble beating those guys with his feet. He runs like a deer and is plenty quick for his size.
Wiggins is good but don't knock Parker - a big man with handles, quicks and can stroke it from deep is pretty rare. Think Carmelo with better handles and without the negativity.
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I see Melo with potentially a better handle, but less of an in-between game.
I heard he lost some bulk before the summer so I'm curious to see how he moves now. Melo, while a relatively large guy, still has some incredibly light feet. I don't get quite the same feeling with Jabari.
At one point I thought Jabari was heading to Duke. Lately, I heard the talk between the two parties has basically dissolved and now he is probably going to stay next to home. Any truth? Who would that be, MSU and Illinois?
[QUOTE=IGotACoolStory]I see Melo with potentially a better handle, but less of an in-between game.
I heard he lost some bulk before the summer so I'm curious to see how he moves now. Melo, while a relatively large guy, still has some incredibly light feet. I don't get quite the same feeling with Jabari.
At one point I thought Jabari was heading to Duke. Lately, I heard the talk between the two parties has basically dissolved and now he is probably going to stay next to home. Any truth? Who would that be, MSU and Illinois?[/QUOTE]
Actually Jabari is incredibly light on his feet. For instance Rivals.com talked about how he is so deceptively fast mentioning how he literally "floats across the floor" in giant steps. His lightness of foot and handles are 2 of the main things that set him apart from others his size. But I get what you saying in that to the eye he may not look as light because he still losing some of that childhood fat and is not quite as chiseled as say Wiggins or even Melo at this point. Jabari is reportedly still growing and should be getting more and more chiseled every year but don't let his present body type fool you. Very light of foot. And a much better athlete than given credit for. Check this out:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sZngf1LfvE&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL6DDE81D9682974E8[/url]
As you can see from the video -- explosive right there. Posterizing a 7 footer. And Jabari's body has slimmed up quite a bit too.
As far as schools go, I still think Duke is in it... right along with MSU. And their could be one or two more in the mix that are not quite as puplicized. But from most reports I would put MSU and Duke at the top so far. And of course anything can happen but I think Illinois is out. The new Illinois coach has quite a bit of catching up to do and seems to be steadily losing ground in this one.
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Clearly he's an incredibly talent, but everything I've heard/read makes him sound like a better kid. One of those prodigies whose parents have kept him grounded (for now). Just that alone makes me root for him, I don't mean to sound like I'm hating or something, more power to any ball player for doing his thing, but the basketball world needs more kids like him.
[QUOTE=IGotACoolStory]I see Melo with potentially a better handle, but less of an in-between game.
I heard he lost some bulk before the summer so I'm curious to see how he moves now. Melo, while a relatively large guy, still has some incredibly light feet. I don't get quite the same feeling with Jabari.[/quote]
Actually Parker reminds me of a taller Mitch Richmond.
I've been thinking of a guy who he best resembles and its "Rock".
Jabari looks to be a guy who looks to be so strong and crafty when he gets to the basket that he can finish in all sorts of ways. From his highlight video you see him getting to the basket at times and he's able lower his head and finish at the rim with both hands without even dunking it every time.
That was the same with Mitch Richmond. Both play at a certain smooth pace that you'd almost forget how athletic they are in open space. Both have such good footwork that they can change direction so quicky off the dribble its tough to guard them. Then both can post up, face up and nail the jumper.
But they resemble each other the most with their jumpshot.
Look at how quick of a trigger Jabari has on that. :eek:
Mitch's release was top notch too with a quick trigger either pulling up in transition or spotting up for 3.
[quote]At one point I thought Jabari was heading to Duke. Lately, I heard the talk between the two parties has basically dissolved and now he is probably going to stay next to home. Any truth? Who would that be, MSU and Illinois?[/QUOTE]
Im kinda not ruling out Washington this time around.
A lot of family connections and Washington has a great reputation for putting guys in the NBA.
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]Clearly he's an incredibly talent, but everything I've heard/read makes him sound like a better kid. One of those prodigies whose parents have kept him grounded (for now). Just that alone makes me root for him, I don't mean to sound like I'm hating or something, more power to any ball player for doing his thing, but the basketball world needs more kids like him.[/QUOTE]
I dont think some people will like his religious values.
You see the "hate" Tebow gets, and Jabari seems to really, really be a guy who is going to talk about the Mormom faith as a public figure.
Thats a pretty tough sell espescially in certain parts of the country.
[QUOTE=Rowe]I dont think some people will like his religious values.
You see the "hate" Tebow gets, and Jabari seems to really, really be a guy who is going to talk about the Mormom faith as a public figure.
Thats a pretty tough sell espescially in certain parts of the country.[/QUOTE]
If he goes to BYU then the Jazz I'd be pretty happy.
[quote=Rowe]I dont think some people will like his religious values.
You see the "hate" Tebow gets, and Jabari seems to really, really be a guy who is going to talk about the Mormom faith as a public figure.
Thats a pretty tough sell espescially in certain parts of the country.[/quote]Right, but that's not on Tebow. I mean, I guess part of it is, the kneeling prayers after big plays and all, but say Cam Newton did that shit, story's dead before either plays a down. And it never even starts if Tebow doesn't win two titles at Florida (one thanks to Chris Leak). You know what I'm getting at with this...
I know Parker's a strict Mormon, but I really don't know what that entails. I mean it's not like Jehovah's Witnesses right, it's not his duty to "spread the word" or whatever is it? If it is, whatever, I really don't think it'd get play. Tebow's a white Xtian QB. For better or worse, that's a long ways away from a black Mormon wing. It'd be a gigantic deal in Utah, but that's it, no one else would care. I mean, let's be honest, some 20 year old black kid preaching doesn't have the resonance that a 23(?) white QB does. That's just how America works, better or worse. I mean shit, one of the two guys that'll be president next term is a Mormon and NO ONE mentions it.
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]Right, but that's not on Tebow. I mean, I guess part of it is, the kneeling prayers after big plays and all, but say Cam Newton did that shit, story's dead before either plays a down. And it never even starts if Tebow doesn't win two titles at Florida (one thanks to Chris Leak). You know what I'm getting at with this...
I know Parker's a strict Mormon, but I really don't know what that entails. I mean it's not like Jehovah's Witnesses right, it's not his duty to "spread the word" or whatever is it? If it is, whatever, I really don't think it'd get play. Tebow's a white Xtian QB. For better or worse, that's a long ways away from a black Mormon wing. It'd be a gigantic deal in Utah, but that's it, no one else would care. I mean, let's be honest, some 20 year old black kid preaching doesn't have the resonance that a 23(?) white QB does. That's just how America works, better or worse. I mean shit, one of the two guys that'll be president next term is a Mormon and NO ONE mentions it.[/QUOTE]
i know next to nothing about the mormon faith, but dont a lot of young men at 20 go on a faith spreading mission? i heard this about parker, that hes open to forgoing the nba for a few years, to go on a mission. if he does, surely that would draw a ton of attention, not tebow like attention, but it would be the thing that comes to mind when you think of him
[QUOTE=Rowe]Actually Parker reminds me of a taller Mitch Richmond.
I've been thinking of a guy who he best resembles and its "Rock".
Jabari looks to be a guy who looks to be so strong and crafty when he gets to the basket that he can finish in all sorts of ways. From his highlight video you see him getting to the basket at times and he's able lower his head and finish at the rim with both hands without even dunking it every time.
That was the same with Mitch Richmond. Both play at a certain smooth pace that you'd almost forget how athletic they are in open space. Both have such good footwork that they can change direction so quicky off the dribble its tough to guard them. Then both can post up, face up and nail the jumper.
But they resemble each other the most with their jumpshot.
Look at how quick of a trigger Jabari has on that. :eek:
Mitch's release was top notch too with a quick trigger either pulling up in transition or spotting up for 3.
Im kinda not ruling out Washington this time around.
A lot of family connections and Washington has a great reputation for putting guys in the NBA.[/QUOTE]
I can see the Mitch comparison but taller. Good call. I can also see Paul Pierce but slightly more athletic more attack minded and with better handles. But I still tend to go back to Melo because they are both light of foot, about the same athletically in terms of speed and leaping ability, both have great range, both are crafty, but with Jabari possibly having better handles.
But the wildcard in all of this is what happens if he continues to grow. Multiple reports say that Doctors have told him he is not done growing. If that turns out to be true then I lean more toward a KD comparison.
Good call also on pointing out the trigger finger. Jabari has no conscience. He must be guarded as soon as crosses the half court line.
As for him picking Washington, that would not entirely surprise me. Not likely from what I have heard but certainly possible.
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[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]Right, but that's not on Tebow. I mean, I guess part of it is, the kneeling prayers after big plays and all, but say Cam Newton did that shit, story's dead before either plays a down. And it never even starts if Tebow doesn't win two titles at Florida (one thanks to Chris Leak). You know what I'm getting at with this...
I know Parker's a strict Mormon, but I really don't know what that entails. I mean it's not like Jehovah's Witnesses right, it's not his duty to "spread the word" or whatever is it? If it is, whatever, I really don't think it'd get play. Tebow's a white Xtian QB. For better or worse, that's a long ways away from a black Mormon wing. It'd be a gigantic deal in Utah, but that's it, no one else would care. I mean, let's be honest, some 20 year old black kid preaching doesn't have the resonance that a 23(?) white QB does. That's just how America works, better or worse. I mean shit, one of the two guys that'll be president next term is a Mormon and NO ONE mentions it.[/QUOTE]
Good points.
Im not sure if all Mormons have to "spread the word" but the few who I know from school/work do speak a lot on their faith. Almost to the point where 65% of our talks are kinda ending up being an indirect discussion mentioning how God has ways of dealing with things and the role personal faith plays in how better things will be for you. The other 35% is trying to find common ground by discussing popular topics, but I've learned that they don't really have the same interests as other people their age and dont take part in activities outside of their faith.
So basically, I can't really find a connect and I can imagine how a prominent person would be perceived if he had that same disconnect from the public who scrutinizes their every word/action.
But you're 100% right on how the public is going to react to a 20 year old Black basketball player preaching about faith & discussing Mormom values. From what I understand a lot of the activities & behaviors of most Mormons are different from the general public. As a person who describes himself as a devot Mormon(even considering doing the Mormon Mission at 19), it might cause him to try to drive the point across about his faith a little more. I've seen things where he has done interviews with Mormon websites and appeared on Mormon radio talk shows, very small outlets that most "famous" people wouldn't feel the need to involve themselves with.
[QUOTE=chips93]i know next to nothing about the mormon faith, but dont a lot of young men at 20 go on a faith spreading mission? i heard this about parker, that hes open to forgoing the nba for a few years, to go on a mission. if he does, surely that would draw a ton of attention, not tebow like attention, but it would be the thing that comes to mind when you think of him[/QUOTE]
I believe they go at 19, and that would literally be right before the start of their rookie season. It would be a 2 year mission somewhere in the world. Most really devout Mormons do go on these missions, I've noticed that it happens pretty frequently in college football. 1 of the Mormon friends I have actually served a Mission that took him out of school for about 1 1/2 years. I believe he was assigned or chose to go to Guinea.
Some prominent Mormon guys like Jimmer Freddete for example turn down a Mormon Mission and get criticized by the more devout group of Mormons.
[QUOTE]Jimmer has said that he prayed about going on a mission and felt that he could do more good for the Church going the route of Steve Young, Danny Ainge and other high profile Mormon athletes who have leveraged their celebrity to spread the
[QUOTE=bballer]Lol my HS team would have smacked Simeon this year.[/QUOTE]
Maybe in a dream or something.
There was an article in SI a few months ago that talked about Parker and his faith, and explains several things.
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Announced his top 10.. Illinois out of the mix :/
[QUOTE=wang4three]Announced his top 10.. Illinois out of the mix :/[/QUOTE]
How is it the Illini consistently lose out on the best talent in the state??? Makes no damn sense.
[QUOTE=ballinhun8]How is it the Illini consistently lose out on the best talent in the state??? Makes no damn sense.[/QUOTE]
Well, we got into the game kinda late since we switched coaches and maybe our relationship with Chicago is still shaky? Hurts to see that DePaul is still in the mix but we're not.
If Illinois could land the best players in state consistently they could be a top 10 team nearly every year.
Guys that are/were pretty good in college from Illinois since 2008; Anthony Davis, Wayne Blackshear, Ryan Boatright, Meyers Leonard, Brandon Paul, Iman Shumpert, Josh Harrellson.
2/7 played for the Illini, and all those players are already in the NBA or future NBAers, in my opinion at least. Boatright is the only iffy one.
[QUOTE=UConnCeltics]If Illinois could land the best players in state consistently they could be a top 10 team nearly every year.
Guys that are/were pretty good in college from Illinois since 2008; Anthony Davis, Wayne Blackshear, Ryan Boatright, Meyers Leonard, Brandon Paul, Iman Shumpert, Josh Harrellson.
2/7 played for the Illini, and all those players are already in the NBA or future NBAers, in my opinion at least. Boatright is the only iffy one.[/QUOTE]
Paul is nowhere close to being a definite NBA player...And Illinois never had a chance at Davi$. Pretty sure the same applies to black$hear.
[QUOTE=InspiredLebowski]Right, but that's not on Tebow. I mean, I guess part of it is, the kneeling prayers after big plays and all, but say Cam Newton did that shit, story's dead before either plays a down. And it never even starts if Tebow doesn't win two titles at Florida (one thanks to Chris Leak). You know what I'm getting at with this...
I know Parker's a strict Mormon, but I really don't know what that entails. I mean it's not like Jehovah's Witnesses right, it's not his duty to "spread the word" or whatever is it? If it is, whatever, I really don't think it'd get play. Tebow's a white Xtian QB. For better or worse, that's a long ways away from a black Mormon wing. It'd be a gigantic deal in Utah, but that's it, no one else would care. I mean, let's be honest, some 20 year old black kid preaching doesn't have the resonance that a 23(?) white QB does. That's just how America works, better or worse. I mean shit, one of the two guys that'll be president next term is a Mormon and [B]NO ONE mentions it[/B].[/QUOTE]
Your scope is pretty narrow. Where I'm at everybody talks about it.
[QUOTE=Go Getter]Your scope is pretty narrow. Where I'm at everybody talks about it.[/QUOTE]
I guess it honestly depends where they're from. I see from your tag that you're from/in Utah, an obvious Mormon epicenter. I'd imagine it would have some significance in the south as well, particularly in places like Texas or the Bible belt.
I'm from New York and go to school in the Baltimore/DC area .... it's basically an afterthought here.
Parker can ball but Wiggins is that dude.
Jabari Parker is the next Paul Pierce, but my n*gga Kuran Iverson will be a beast too :bowdown:
[QUOTE=Go Getter]Your scope is pretty narrow. Where I'm at everybody talks about it.[/QUOTE]
He made direct mention to your very point here before you even posted, yet for some reason you felt the need to say it even though he covered it.
Stop being so touchy on anything race related.
[quote=Rowe]I believe they go at 19, and that would literally be right before the start of their rookie season. It would be a 2 year mission somewhere in the world. Most really devout Mormons do go on these missions, I've noticed that it happens pretty frequently in college football. 1 of the Mormon friends I have actually served a Mission that took him out of school for about 1 1/2 years. I believe he was assigned or chose to go to Guinea.
Some prominent Mormon guys like Jimmer Freddete for example turn down a Mormon Mission and get criticized by the more devout group of Mormons.[/quote]
19 is the earliest they can go. 21 for girls I believe. Most girls are married with a couple kids by than though. Usually 2 years now. The church chooses where they go. Jabari isn't from Utah so it's not as ingrained as it is with kids from Zion. Most BYU mormons go now a days certainly. Not as many went in Ainge's and Young's day as now.
He'd look great in BYU's high octane offense in Provo! Sounds like it's down to Duke and Kentucky. I'd guess Duke out of those two. Mormons aren't like Tebow or Lin always spouting off about God. He might be the next Dwight Howard who was supposed to be all religious and is just another piece of shit.
[url]http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/334151[/url]
Dunno how legit that is, but I hope there's some truth to it. Basically says that Parker will narrow list too 3 and Michigan St, Duke, and KU are expected to make it.
Jabari needs to go to Michigan for real.
[QUOTE=TMacMagic]Jabari needs to go to Michigan for real.[/QUOTE]
boy needs to go to KANSAS
[QUOTE=KDTrey5]boy needs to go to KANSAS[/QUOTE]
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