Re: hakeem vs d. robinson
its very close..but david robinson over hakeem olajuwon.
granted, hakeem led his team to the finals in 3 years..but what about all those years he led his team to a .500 record ('87, '88, '89, '90, '92) with a supporting cast similar to the one david had when he was winning 55-60 games every year?
Re: hakeem vs d. robinson
[QUOTE=Shep]its very close..but david robinson over hakeem olajuwon.
granted, hakeem led his team to the finals in 3 years..but what about all those years he led his team to a .500 record ('87, '88, '89, '90, '92) with a supporting cast similar to the one david had when he was winning 55-60 games every year?[/QUOTE]
uh, championship > pretty regular season records, robinson's "dream" season (ironic, isn't it ?) ended up in being publically humilliated and embarassed by the true best center in the league, and by a team that won 15 less games than the spurs.
congrats to david, he was the dirk/webber of the 90's winning a lot of games in the regular season and then failing miserably in the playoffs.
Re: hakeem vs d. robinson
[QUOTE]uh, championship > pretty regular season records,[/QUOTE]
which is why robinson stepped aside for duncan in '99
[QUOTE]robinson's "dream" season (ironic, isn't it ?) ended up in being publically humilliated and embarassed by the true best center in the league, and by a team that won 15 less games than the spurs.[/QUOTE]
uh..that rocket team also defeated the 60 win jazz and the 59 win suns..that team was destined to win the championship
[QUOTE]congrats to david, he was the dirk/webber of the 90's winning a lot of games in the regular season and then failing miserably in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
heh..i'd take winning 60 games and losing deep in the playoffs over scraping into the playoffs as an 8th seed and getting eliminated in the first round or not even making the playoffs ('90) :oldlol:
Re: hakeem vs d. robinson
[QUOTE=Shep]which is why robinson stepped aside for duncan in '99[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shep]uh..that rocket team also defeated the 60 win jazz and the 59 win suns..that team was destined to win the championship[/QUOTE]
and that was because of how good hakeem was, not because of the bunch of overrated role players around him.
[QUOTE=Shep]heh..i'd take winning 60 games and losing deep in the playoffs over scraping into the playoffs as an 8th seed and getting eliminated in the first round or not even making the playoffs ('90) :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
lmao, you are gonna bring up one season ? the spurs didnt win that season so this has no relevance, the rocckets won in 94 and 95, so david had a better season than hakeem in 95 because he won mvp and more games despite of hakeem exposing him as the overrated softie he was in the playoffs ? :hammerhead: we are discussing greatness here, hakeem LEAD his team to consecutive championships and embarassed robinson in front of his own fans, we aren't discussing how well robinson rode duncan's coat-tails.
Re: hakeem vs d. robinson
[QUOTE]and that was because of how good hakeem was[/QUOTE]
you missed the point (hardly surprising). what i was saying is that san antonio wasn't the only 59+ win team houston beat so you can't use the excuse that "wow..they just got beaten by a 47 win team..they must suck", because so did utah and phoenix
[QUOTE]not because of the bunch of overrated role players around him.
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:roll: clyde drexler a role player? say no more
[QUOTE]lmao, you are gonna bring up one season ?[/QUOTE]
lmao, just like you are?
[QUOTE]the spurs didnt win that season so this has no relevance[/QUOTE]
why not?
[QUOTE]the rocckets won in 94 and 95, so david had a better season than hakeem in 95 because he won mvp and more games despite of hakeem exposing him as the overrated softie he was in the playoffs [/QUOTE]
olajuwon outplayed robinson in one series. if thats your only argument over why youd chose olajuson's career over robinson's you need to get out of this thread
[QUOTE]we are discussing greatness here[/QUOTE]
:bowdown:
[QUOTE]hakeem LEAD his team to consecutive championships [/QUOTE]
yeh..and without that, he wouldn't be near robinson..but because of it he is very close :D
[QUOTE]and embarassed robinson in front of his own fans[/QUOTE]
didn't get embarassed..simply got outplayed..nothing more
[QUOTE]we aren't discussing how well robinson rode duncan's coat-tails.[/QUOTE]
where'd you get the impression that i was? :lol:
Re: hakeem vs d. robinson
I remember when the 95 Western Conference finals opened, it was dubbed the I-10 texas shootout. Robinson was presented the MVP trophy in San Antonio and if you watched the opening game, you could tell Olajuwon was pissed as sh*t. He took it as an insult because he knew he shouldve been MVP that year. San Antonio did have the best record in the league, and MVP honors usually goto the best player on the best team. Olajuwon just had too many moves in his arsenal, Robinson even said " I think I guarded him pretty well." Hakeem simply outplayed the Admiral.
Re: hakeem vs d. robinson
[QUOTE]He took it as an insult because he knew he shouldve been MVP that year.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: david robinson rightfully won the mvp that year. there was nobody near him, infact it was the easiest choice of mvp since 1986 (larry over magic). olajuwon wasn't even second..i'd give it to shaquille o'neal, karl malone, and john stockton before him. granted hakeem had slightly better stats, but he missed 10 games, robinson missed one. hakeem had the better supporting player (drexler over rodman), yet won 15 games less. there's no argument
Re: hakeem vs d. robinson
david robinson got punked. i only wish to see kobe get owned like that. just to see how his fans would react