[QUOTE=72-10]And Dwight.[/QUOTE]
Peak wise , Walton too . But Kareem has better defensive career and prime to me .
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[QUOTE=72-10]And Dwight.[/QUOTE]
Peak wise , Walton too . But Kareem has better defensive career and prime to me .
[QUOTE=feyki]He wasn't soft until his 40 .
He was the best defender of Lakers in between 80-87 . Btw , Pau was good defender too in my mind .
He averaged 1.3 steals and 3.2 blocks on 100 poss at between 81-87 playoffs . That's prime Ewing level .[/QUOTE]
Pau was a pretty good defender, that's why I said current pau.
And he was definitely soft, you watch video from 1980s, even the finals, he was just afraid of throwing his body into people and was a little lost on team defense from time to time.
[QUOTE=feyki]He wasn't soft until his 40 .
He was the best defender of Lakers in between 80-87 . Btw , Pau was good defender too in my mind .
He averaged 1.3 steals and 3.2 blocks on 100 poss at between 81-87 playoffs . That's prime Ewing level .[/QUOTE]
You seem to be forgetting Michael Cooper. Kareem was getting like 2 blocks a night at the age of 36 in an era when they drove to the hole a lot (1983-84). Ironically, he blocked more shots in 1984-85.
[QUOTE=SexSymbol]Pau was a pretty good defender, that's why I said current pau.
And he was definitely soft, you watch video from 1980s, even the finals, he was just afraid of throwing his body into people and was a little lost on team defense from time to time.[/QUOTE]
I did watch all 80's Finals , beside of late 80's . Kareem was great on defending at 82 and 80 finals . Maybe , He was close average in 85 Finals . Cause he focused on offence too much .But 87 and 84 Finals were good , especially on help defence . And he was main shot blocker and rim protector of 81-87 Lakers .
Every player has some lack . Kareem wasn't good one on one defender or he wasn't physical beast on defence like Ben Wallace or Nate Thurmond anytime in his career .
[QUOTE=72-10]You seem to be forgetting Michael Cooper. Kareem was getting like 2 blocks a night at the age of 36 in an era when they drove to the hole a lot (1983-84). Ironically, he blocked more shots in 1984-85.[/QUOTE]
Especially in bigger areas , like Finals . Kareem was more important defender imo . I think Cooper was better individual defender than Old Kareem(after 84) but like i said in finals Kareem was better imo . And especially in between 80-84 , Kareem was clearly best defender of that Lakers team .
a player so goof offensively like Kareem will never be equally rated as a defender as someone who is a defender specialist and sucks on offense.
such is the society
[QUOTE=Kvnzhangyay]Kareem didn't try at all until the playoffs[/QUOTE]
Listen, kid, I've been hearing that crap ever since I was at UCLA.
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArHNrCvwq4c"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArHNrCvwq4c[/URL]